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Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
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<Reply # 640 on 7/20/2009 9:17 PM >
|  | | | Do you want interchangable lenses?
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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Shawn W.
 
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
Gender: Male
Optimistic Pessimist
| | | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 641 on 7/20/2009 9:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by macman5151
So, my questions to you guys are:
-What's a good used cheap($200-400) dslr camera?
-Anything I should look for, feature-wise, that'd be unusually important to UE?
-One of the cheapest ones I'm seeing on eBay right now is the Nikon D100. Looks like a few people have upgraded from that- how is it? |
I've never used a D100, but that's almost ancient in terms of digital photography. Instead, for your price range, I'd recommend a D60. However, if you were willing to up your maximum buying price to around $450, and were willing to be patient, you could probably score a D80 on eBay. That's the route that I took, and I'm quite happy with my purchase. Regardless of what you get, remember to take the cost of lenses into account. This brings me to...
Feature-wise, get something that will allow for as much customization, in terms of settings, as possible. Any decent DSLR should be able to do this, so what you should focus on, no pun intended, are your lens choices. Most photographers on this board seem to prefer ultra-wide zooms, ie. 12-24mm. Personally, I'm fine with my 18-70mm zoom, but that's just me.
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Byberrian Fanman
Location: Fuck You
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| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 642 on 7/20/2009 9:34 PM >
| | | | The D100 sucks, stay away from it. If you want something $400 or less with a lens, go for a new or slightly used D40.
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makman
Location: Rochester, NY
Gender: Male
I live alone with a criminal
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 643 on 7/20/2009 10:42 PM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
Do you want interchangable lenses?
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From what I've been told, yes.
| go for a new or slightly used D40. |
Yeah, what I'm hearing from friends is one of those two. Design major hanging out in the room right now says the only difference between the two is megapixels. From what I've been told, though, 6 is pretty good for my purposes. Heck, in terms of resolution, the P&S wasn't too bad, so 6'll be fine. So- looking at eBay'd d40's.
Be careful, not safe.
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Sceptic
Location: In the Dreams of a City that Never Sleeps
Gender: Male
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| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 644 on 7/21/2009 2:57 PM >
| | | | Since I am also a noob, can anyone tell me a little about the lenses? what do you recommend I look for?
For 400 I can get the D60 with..
# Nikon D60 Camera body with cap
# 18-55mm Nikon DX lens with cap
# charger
# battery
# USB cable
# Nikon neck strap
# D60 User Guide User Guide
# Picture Project Software CD
# 1GB Memory Card -
# Extra Battery -
# UV filter (fits both lenses) -
# Lens Cleaning Kit -
# Field Guide to D60
[last edit 7/21/2009 3:14 PM by Sceptic - edited 2 times]
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 645 on 7/21/2009 3:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by macman5151
From what I've been told, yes. |
It isn't bad advice, but it isn't necessary. Take the Panasonic FZ30 or FZ50 for example. 35-420mm image stabilized lens and stunningly good optics. If you're mostly shooting tripod, its low light performance is fine. It doesn't have replaceable lenses, do you can add an ultra wide lens to it (without degrading the quality), but you could just stitch 2+ images together to get a wideshot. You should be able to find either of these for under $400. You'll never find a DSLR with equivalent lens focal lengths for that price.
The D40 is a great little camera. What will get expensive very fast are the lenses.
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 646 on 7/21/2009 5:27 PM >
| | | | Heads Up:
Adorama is listing Refurbished Canon Nifty Fifty's for $79.99 + free shipping.
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Standard AutoFocus Lens - Refurbished $79.99
http://www.adorama.com/CA5018AFUR.html
I ordered one last night and it's already on a Fed-Ex truck headed to me.
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Ogre Battle
Location: Chicago IL
Gender: Male
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 647 on 7/21/2009 5:59 PM >
| | | | Posted by Sceptic
Since I am also a noob, can anyone tell me a little about the lenses? what do you recommend I look for?
# 18-55mm Nikon DX lens with cap |
The lens is decent and when stopped down to about f8 or f11 is extremely sharp. For low light stuff, I'm assuming you're already planning on using a tripod so the longer exposures required by those apertures won't be a problem. You may find 18mm isn't wide-angle enough however, and might want to consider adding a 12-24 or similar eventually.
# UV filter (fits both lenses) -
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I may be brave or foolish, but I don't use the filters. I've done too many night photos where streetlights or other bright spots have caused ugly upside-down reflections from the filter to appear in the picture. No thanks.
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Shawn W.
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
Gender: Male
Optimistic Pessimist
| | | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 648 on 7/21/2009 7:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by Sceptic
Since I am also a noob, can anyone tell me a little about the lenses? what do you recommend I look for?
For 400 I can get the D60 with..
# Nikon D60 Camera body with cap
# 18-55mm Nikon DX lens with cap
# charger
# battery
# USB cable
# Nikon neck strap
# D60 User Guide User Guide
# Picture Project Software CD
# 1GB Memory Card -
# Extra Battery -
# UV filter (fits both lenses) -
# Lens Cleaning Kit -
# Field Guide to D60 |
I assume that you're going to take photos at maximum resolution, so a 1gb card is going to fill up pretty fast. I use a 4gb SanDisk SDHC Extreme III card, but if all you're going to use your camera for are urbex shots, then a 2gb card with a slower write speed would be sufficient.
In regard to the UV filter, unless you get something decent (note: It doesn't have to be pro quality), You'd be better off just using the lens hood (another note: don't use a hood on shots taken with a flash), or nothing at all. A cheap filter will likely screw up your photos. If you want to know which filter to get, I asked the same question last month, so just look for my filter thread from June.
As for the rest, it's a good place to start. 
Edit: A further thought: A 1gb card wouldn't be bad to have as a backup, but don't make it your primary card.
[last edit 7/21/2009 7:57 PM by Shawn W. - edited 1 times]
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Sceptic
Location: In the Dreams of a City that Never Sleeps
Gender: Male
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| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 649 on 7/22/2009 1:42 AM >
| | | | Cool, you've all been helpful thanks!
"Instinctive forces influence the activity of consciousness. Whether that influence is for better or for worse depends upon the actual contents of the unconscious." |
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makman
Location: Rochester, NY
Gender: Male
I live alone with a criminal
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 650 on 7/24/2009 4:55 PM >
| | | | Thanks for the advice, I ended up getting a d40 on eBay. On it's way now, and I can't wait to play with it.
Be careful, not safe.
"Urbex- so much fun that it should be illegal." |
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Shawn W.
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
Gender: Male
Optimistic Pessimist
| | | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 651 on 7/25/2009 9:22 PM >
| | | | Just to make a correction, I have an 8gb card for my camera, but the advice that I gave to Sceptic regarding getting a 2gb card is still valid.
What is a rebel? A man who says no. - Albert Camus |
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A. Lien
Location: Fantasy Island B.C.
Gender: Male
Abductees Anonymous all welcome
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 652 on 7/30/2009 4:33 AM >
| | | | Anyone check out the new Olympus XP? Quite compact, high quality images, good UE potential. But for around 350.00 more = D90.
http://www.engadge...-so-does-our-lust/
http://theinspirat...-story-by-olympus/
*Pardon if it's been covered, didn't go through the thread...
My sister is Charlotte Light and Dark. Who am I?
Farewell and thank you... "I was doing something that I thought could have some impact someday. In many ways, it's really these photographs that kept me going creatively." Dennis Hopper |
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| |  | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 653 on 7/30/2009 12:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by A. Lien
Anyone check out the new Olympus XP? Quite compact, high quality images, good UE potential.
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150 shots between charges. 
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Shawn W.
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
Gender: Male
Optimistic Pessimist
| | | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 654 on 7/30/2009 8:57 PM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
150 shots between charges.
Chris... |
Not especially impressive, but at least it's better than the Vivitar ViviCam 3935 point & shoot. My mother bought one for me about four years ago. I was appreciative, but my enthusiasm soured when it twice completely drained the batteries after just seven or so shots. I still have it, but haven't used it since then.
What is a rebel? A man who says no. - Albert Camus |
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 655 on 7/30/2009 9:22 PM >
| | | | Posted by Shawn W.
Not especially impressive, but at least it's better than the Vivitar ViviCam 3935 point & shoot. My mother bought one for me about four years ago. I was appreciative, but my enthusiasm soured when it twice completely drained the batteries after just seven or so shots. I still have it, but haven't used it since then.
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Bet it didn't cost the thick end of $600 though! :-p
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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A. Lien
Location: Fantasy Island B.C.
Gender: Male
Abductees Anonymous all welcome
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 656 on 7/31/2009 6:56 AM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
150 shots between charges.
Chris...
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Ahh... good to know. but a second battery = 300 Still for a few hundred more, a D 90 is a more pro style camera. Looks like the XP here now with zoom lens (28 - 84 equivalent) is 900.00. The faster fixed 17? (35 equivalent) will be about 260.00.
Should be a good street and UE cam, just carry a 12V charger.
My sister is Charlotte Light and Dark. Who am I?
Farewell and thank you... "I was doing something that I thought could have some impact someday. In many ways, it's really these photographs that kept me going creatively." Dennis Hopper |
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Byberrian Fanman
Location: Fuck You
Gender: Male
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 657 on 7/31/2009 5:30 PM >
| | | | If you want something that only gets 150 shots per charge, get a damned Nikon D1X.
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Ogre Battle
Location: Chicago IL
Gender: Male
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 658 on 8/1/2009 1:42 AM >
| | | | Posted by Byberrian Fanman
If you want something that only gets 150 shots per charge, get a damned Nikon D1X.
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Where? From an antique store?
Just kidding, of course. I couldn't resist.
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Louie
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 659 on 8/2/2009 5:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by A. Lien
Ahh... good to know. but a second battery = 300
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150 shots between charges and a second battery is $300?
who are they kidding? I can take 1000+ on my D80 before it dies. I wish all cameras did that
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