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 Shakes
  
Location: Mpls, MN
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 600 on 4/26/2009 11:25 PM >
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Those two lenses are somewhat different in price point 
If I had to pick one single lens, it'd be the 17-55/2.8. Just such a nice lens, though it's quite heavy, and it's in the same price ballpark as that 14-24/2.8. Since I picked it up, it's lived on my camera most of the time.
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Yeah I was thinking two lenses. Great plus about getting a Nikon is my dad already has a couple of telephoto and a standard 28-70. Which is why I was asking for the two other lenses. What's the wide angle like (how fishy) on the 17-55?
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metawaffle
    
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 601 on 4/27/2009 12:00 AM >
| | | | The 17mm doesn't come out too wide, especially compared to the 10mm ultrawides. I should be able to find some examples, just a sec...
Okay, so here's roughly the same scene, shot using different lenses. First, at 17mm:
And another at 10mm:
You can see more of the right-hand arch, and the concrete wall to the left of the tunnel, as the camera was closer, and the angle of view much wider. You do have to watch out for distortion when you have people towards the side of the frame with the 10mm, of course. I couldn't find an example, since the results are so horrible they usually just get deleted immediately
At 17mm, there isn't quite the same level of distortion at the edge of the frame, though it is still quite wide:
Just as an aside, neither of those have anything like the unique distortions and supremely wide view of a fisheye:
All that said, there's something fun about the really, really wide angle of a 10mm lens. If I was going out with two lenses, the second would probably be either the ultrawide zoom, or a fisheye. Very rarely would it be a telephoto lens, unless I had something specific in mind, but that probably says more about my type of photography than anything else.
Hope that helps in some way!
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metawaffle
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 602 on 4/27/2009 12:04 AM >
| | | | For the sake of comparison, here's a similar scene at 50mm. This is actually the same view, from a few feet to the right - in the parallel tunnel. So, the bright spot on the left is actually the connecting arch that's on the right in the above pics:
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D'void
Location: The Wild Mid-West
Gender: Male
Give me your $oul
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 603 on 4/28/2009 9:02 PM >
| | | | Fuji-FinePix S100sf Review:
I didn't read this whole thread because, well I don't have time right now but I was wondering if anyone on here uses Fuji Film Cameras? Either point & Shoot or DSLR?
The reason I ask is that I know they aren't popular in the US photo market. Also a lot of die hard Cannon / Nikon people poopoo on Fuji because of the Fuji-non Lenses, but I wanted to offer my own review of my new S100fs.
Frankly I have used Fuji for about 12 years now and as far as still photography goes I wouldn't switch. I first got a Finepix 3.1 and then a Finepix 5.1 witch worked great until I abused it to the point of no return. Hell, the 5.1 was only $200 and it lasted 4 years, it also took some of the best photos I have in my collection.
So after being with out a still camera for almost a year I decided I would stop bothering my friends about borrowing their SLR cameras and get one myself. I wasn't initially going to get another Fuji but I looked around for 4 months and did a bunch of research on what I thought was most important for my shooting style.
1 ) color
2 ) nice feel
3 ) LCD view finder / LCD screen
4 ) all around ability
5 ) macro capability
In doing all my research and going out to camera shops and actually holding the models led me right back to Fuji. Maybe it's cause I am predisposed to the camera and its ops but it was by far the best $790 (MSRP $1,200) I have spent in years. I really wish I had done it a years ago instead of waiting all this time.
The reasons I love it:
1 ) the Fuji-non unibody lens
2 ) amazing color reproduction
3 ) macro mode was way beyond what I expected
4 ) for being such a sophisticated camera its menus are simple as pie to use and follow
5 ) great white balance. I've saw really bad WB on some of the models I tested
6 ) my favorite reason...It absolutely blows my friends pics out of the water. Stuff they can only dream and cream about.
7 ) great flexible LCD screen for viewing at any angel, non of that view finder shit killing my back.
I know the uni-body lenses probably is what scares people off the most about this camera. Its all-in-one body/lens is specifically made for macro shooting, and because it does not come apart never, ever, no matter how dusty you get the camera will dust ever get between the sensor and the lens. No cleaning. Now some of you are like WTF...no fish lens no telephoto...no way. First let me say that I don't care much for wide angel / fish eye lenses, I think they are plain cheesy and I only like them in certain situations. And that lens that's made specifically for macro is also a damn good telephoto. Nothing is lost really except lens swapping.
I would list the cons of the camera but I am still yet to find any for myself after 3 months, seriously. This camera is fucking awesome and I recommend it to anyone who shoots landscapes and stuff like you would find on this site.
http://www.fujifil..._s100fs/index.html
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Neo
Location: Maryland
Gender: Male
I have to return some videotapes
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 604 on 5/10/2009 5:58 AM >
| | | | Alright guys, it's my turn:
I'm looking for a digital camera that:
Is at least 5MP effective
Eats AA batteries(or can sue an external source)
Can do macro shots fairly well
Can do long exposures
Has some sort of non-contact remote or timer to use the long exposure
Has a tripod screw 
Any suggestions? My current camera is a hand-me-down Fuji 2600Z-takes super-sharp photos, but only in daylight. I understand that the lens is often more important than the MP rating.
Budget: $200-ish, said and done with a remote and memory card.
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<Lexi> I'm watching you.
<Neo> Thank you Lexi ** Neo has de-opped Lexi |
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Shawn W.
 
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
Gender: Male
Optimistic Pessimist
| | | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 605 on 5/10/2009 7:27 PM >
| | | | Posted by Neo
Alright guys, it's my turn:
I'm looking for a digital camera that:
Is at least 5MP effective
Eats AA batteries(or can sue an external source)
Can do macro shots fairly well
Can do long exposures
Has some sort of non-contact remote or timer to use the long exposure
Has a tripod screw
Any suggestions? My current camera is a hand-me-down Fuji 2600Z-takes super-sharp photos, but only in daylight. I understand that the lens is often more important than the MP rating.
Budget: $200-ish, said and done with a remote and memory card. |
You want to get all of that for around $200? Not going to happen, unless, possibly, you get it used.
What is a rebel? A man who says no. - Albert Camus |
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takeonlypictures
Location: Arizona
Barbed wire is the enemy!
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 606 on 5/11/2009 12:28 AM >
| | | | Im a nerd. I still dont have a digital camera. I use a 1973 Yashika 35mm rangefinder fixed lense camera with a polarizing filter and a bounce flash. I have a black and white photo enlarger in my closet at home that i develope with. I've been thinking about getting a nice digital camera but im afraid its out of my budget. Any suggestions for a useable digital camera from $60 to $200? I've been thinking about looking for a used camera off craigslist or something but if someone has a suggestion that would be fantastic.
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D'void
Location: The Wild Mid-West
Gender: Male
Give me your $oul
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 607 on 5/12/2009 6:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by Neo
Alright guys, it's my turn:
I'm looking for a digital camera that:
Is at least 5MP effective
Eats AA batteries(or can sue an external source)
Can do macro shots fairly well
Can do long exposures
Has some sort of non-contact remote or timer to use the long exposure
Has a tripod screw
Any suggestions? My current camera is a hand-me-down Fuji 2600Z-takes super-sharp photos, but only in daylight. I understand that the lens is often more important than the MP rating.
Budget: $200-ish, said and done with a remote and memory card.
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Best bet...
http://www.digital...shoot_ratings.html
You won't get something that can do Macro (well that is) in that price range but some of the more advanced point-&-shoots do have night settings (ie long exposure) that take some great shots. A buddy of mine had a real nice Fuji point and shoot like that, I was always impressed by the quality of the exposure settings.
I'm guessing for what you spend on Film after a year you will have paid for that digital camera... twice over maybe.
hope that helps
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John A.
Location: Nova Scotia
Gender: Male
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 608 on 6/8/2009 1:53 AM >
| | | | I REALLY wish I could afford the new Canon T1i.
15 megapixel and Full HD video recording. Too bad it costs like $1200 CAD w/ a basic lens 
- John |
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bonesy12
Location: Edmonton, AB
Gender: Female
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 609 on 6/9/2009 7:19 PM >
| | | | lens advice please!
went down to the camera store on my lunch break today and took a look at their used lenses. found a nice 20mm prime, 2.8, decent quality, $450. here's my dillemma:
i own a nikon d-80, and currently am using the 35 prime f2. LOVE the lens. great sharpness and excellent for low light. however, i often end up kicking myself for my lack of a wide-angle lens and can often be found backed into a corner in an attempt to fit objects into my shots. i've been saving for the 16-85 nikkor VR lens, but i'm going back to school in the fall, will need a new expensive computer, and my car is also on it's last legs, so who knows when i might be able to get my hands on one as its priced around $700 right now. my thinking is this, if i go for the used 20 prime, i get a well-built lens, save cash, albeit at the cost of having something not quite as wide, not quite as versatile/multi-purpose. both lenses are supposed to be fairly sharp from what i've heard, and both are of decent build quality. what would you do? if i go for the 20 prime, am i gonna be kicking myself for not getting something more versatile, or will i be able to live with that considering prime lenses (IMO) tend to be better quality. if i get the 20 prime, i'll probably continue saving for the 16-85. anyways, anyone with experience using either lens?
So please don't wake me,
Till someone cares.
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hilite
Gender: Male
don't destroy my sweater....
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 610 on 6/9/2009 9:00 PM >
| | | | I faced a similar problem, for my Canon XT. sigma's 18-50 2.8, 10-20mm (the slow beast) or a 20 1.8 prime. I ended up w/ the prime. while it ain't as wide as the others, nothing like going handheld in an abandoned place where at any time you may have to pack up and leave at a moments notice.
Plus PhotoStitch seems to treat me well.
^3 stacked landscape images
And when you finally disappear, We'll just say you were never here. |
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Ogre Battle
Location: Chicago IL
Gender: Male
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 611 on 6/9/2009 9:14 PM >
| | | | Posted by bonesy12
went down to the camera store on my lunch break today and took a look at their used lenses. found a nice 20mm prime, 2.8, decent quality, $450. here's my dillemma:
i own a nikon d-80, and currently am using the 35 prime f2. |
I have the D80 and the 35/f2 and 20/f2.8 autofocus primes. To be honest, I seldom use them. I jumped in with both feet and bought the 17-55/f2.8 zoom but that might be out of your budget if you have those other expenses pending. I believe its sharper than either of the primes, well, at least its sharper than the 20. I haven't compared it as close with the 35.
But the gist of my post is this: For exploration you may find, as I did, that 20mm might not be wide enough either. Indoors I almost always use the 17-55 at the wide end, and even so I wound up supplementing it with the 12-24 zoom just to get something wider. I've never used the 16-85 lens you mentioned, but I'd definately consider it as a wider alternative to the 20 and 35.
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bonesy12
Location: Edmonton, AB
Gender: Female
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 612 on 6/10/2009 3:21 PM >
| | | | thanks for the suggestions guys. nice shot hi-lite, its nice to see shots taken with lenses i'm comparing. and seeing as that's 3 stacked images, i don't think it'd be quite wide enuf. the nikon 17-55 2.8 is obviously the ideal solution, but definately out of my budget at present. i've also been looking at the tokina 12-24, i've heard lots of good things about it having similar optical quality to the nikon, with it being half the price. i'm a little hesitant when it comes to third party lenses, but the reviews on this one are makin me seriously consider it. anyone here use the tokina? its biggest downfall for me is that at f4, its not good for handheld indoors. but then again, my budget is under $1000, so i'm gonna have to make a compromise on either speed, or how wide i can go. but back to the subject, any opinions on the tokina 12-24?
So please don't wake me,
Till someone cares.
Now no one cares. |
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hilite
Gender: Male
don't destroy my sweater....
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 613 on 6/10/2009 3:29 PM >
| | | | I've heard amazing things about the 12-24, but have you considered the 11-16 2.8? very close in price to eachother.
And when you finally disappear, We'll just say you were never here. |
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bonesy12
Location: Edmonton, AB
Gender: Female
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 614 on 6/12/2009 5:05 PM >
| | | | thanks for your suggestions mate! i took a look at all three the other day (12-24, 16-85, and 11-16) think i'm goin with the 11-16, but there's a 3 month waiting list! i'll stick it out tho, the price is right, and it suits my needs.
So please don't wake me,
Till someone cares.
Now no one cares. |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 615 on 6/24/2009 4:06 AM >
| | | | Posted by Neo
Alright guys, it's my turn:
I'm looking for a digital camera that:
Is at least 5MP effective
Eats AA batteries(or can sue an external source)
Can do macro shots fairly well
Can do long exposures
Has some sort of non-contact remote or timer to use the long exposure
Has a tripod screw
Budget: $200-ish, said and done with a remote and memory card.
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I don't know if this is too late or not... BUT.
A Canon Powershot with CHDK firmware add-on should be more than enough.
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK
Check eBay and buy it used. Should save you at least 20-50% of the price.
Though I'd buy myself a birthday present, eBay.. I just upgraded my camera. $329.99 DRXT Kit w/ Lens.
Digital Rebel XT with Kit lens. Sunpak Quantarray 6601 Tripod (not pictured SLR Gorrilapod) taken with my old Canon 570IS (not using CHKD at the time.)
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 616 on 6/30/2009 8:46 PM >
| | | | Quick question for anyone who may know-
I have a Canon 1DS- anyone know if the architectural (grid) screens for the Mk II and III fit into the viewfinder for the Mk I?
Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. |
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NikonJeb
Location: Boiling Springs, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 617 on 7/4/2009 12:36 AM >
| | | | I found it amusing that the OP was whether to get the EOS300D or the D70s.....I went with the D70s three years ago, and 42K shots later, I got a heck of a deal on a D200 with very low mileage....8>)
I'm really happy with the auto ISO, RAW, and Aperture Priority for being in low light scenarios.
These are two from one of my favorite places I call Desolation Industries. Even though this place is still operational, it looks half abandoned.1.
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I do life photography! |
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NikonJeb
Location: Boiling Springs, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
| | Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
<Reply # 618 on 7/4/2009 1:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by bonesy12
lens advice please!
if i go for the 20 prime, am i gonna be kicking myself for not getting something more versatile, or will i be able to live with that considering prime lenses (IMO) tend to be better quality. if i get the 20 prime, i'll probably continue saving for the 16-85. anyways, anyone with experience using either lens?
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You have to figure out for yourself whether you're a zoom or prime person. Personally, I'm a VR zoom person because of being able to handhold at slower speeds, and sometimes you just cannot "Human Zoom" if there's busted glass, trenches full of muck, gaping chasms, bars, or any of the myriad obstacles we face in the search....
I use an 18-200 VR zoom, auto ISO, and am REALLY careful to hold still.
You will get cleaner shots generally with the primes, but you'll not get some shots some times because you can't get to them.
The two shots in my previous post were from the same expedition, the one in the armature room shot fairly wide angle towards the 18mm end of the lens, and the one where the machinery is was from across the building.....a shot I could not have gotten without some reach.
Your best bet is to borrow or rent some different lenses, and go explore.
Good luck!
ETA: One VERY important reason I use the 18-200 VR is that it's ONE lens.....no dinking around in some twisted place trying to get the right lens.
[last edit 7/4/2009 1:17 AM by NikonJeb - edited 1 times]
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IIVQ
Location: La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL
Gender: Male
Back in Urbex!
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<Reply # 619 on 7/6/2009 1:07 PM >
| | | | I'm in the market for an entry-level DSR. I've been looking at the Canon 450 and 500D and the Nikon D90.
What I've read from reviews is that the 500 and D90 have a higher possible ISO setting. I like to take a lot of pictures in dark buildings, so I wonder whether this is something I could benefit from, or whether the 1600ISO of the 450D (which is about EUR 200-250 cheaper than the 2 others) is more than enough.
Also, I'm a lot for manual tweaking of settings. Is the 450D flexible enough for this or is the "personal menu" of the D500 a real worthy addition into this?
Tijmen
P.S. My main focusus are in-building (and thus low-light) photography. I also do a lot of panoramas, so a panorama helper option would be very welcome. I do not do studio work or people photography, and I'm not really into editing after-the fact so things like bracketing and RAW are not really things I select for.
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