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Very Noble Donor
location:
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Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
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<Reply # 60 on 11/19/2003 7:36 AM >
|  | | | Ok I am not condoning TT's posts READ THIS AS IF YOU JUST READ THE FIRST POST. Every blue moon or two a few of us go out and take a but load of gear and food and camp out in abandoned buildings all day, sometimes two three. Anyways we go out with everything from climbing rope to night vision to krill lights.
On a side note if you guys havent invested in a Krill light they are freaking awsome. Waterproof puts off low light and can get it in many colors. Great for signialing or having low light viewing of things.
Sometimes we go out with a Tarp and some sleeping bags and camp in the center of two or three sites that are in walking distance and go to one each night. It's great fun and I carry some of the same things stated above. We carry a load of stuff with us as well. Camo paint water (which is hevey) MRE's. Standard UE stuff. Non flamable trip flares. Massive med kit. I could almost do field surgery with the stuff for 3 days straight. Each person is tasked a certian job. My best friend and I usually head up security and repel stuff. My other buddy houses food (sometimes a raft if were going to a small island), and shelter material. I am probably going to take my girl out and do this with her as well. Shes are main medic however we are all pretty proficent at med stuff. My parents were in the fire department and I learned a lot which I passed onto my best firend.
Basicly equipment ranges from gloves and a krill light on quicky things to a whole load of equipment.
(please note if you want to do the over night thing extra socks are a must. Showering can be nearly impossible unless you have scouted a water source. If your female yest infections seem to occur. However that was learned from camping. Watch what scents you bring with you like baby wipes. Also the anti bacterial Alcohol Gel cleaner is very useful to prevent disease. Never forget the bug spray to )
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Intalex
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<Reply # 61 on 11/19/2003 7:56 AM >
|  | | | Oh yes, that certainly is very funny and clever isn't it.
It's not BS, I do genuinely do all this stuff. I fail to see why it is all so amazing that you shouldn't beleive it. Clearly your experience of UE is quite bland.
Once my website is up I'll have sound clips, photos and documentation to back it all up. Along with that, a photo of the disguised tent, just to show people that I genuinely do camp out near these places. But until then you'll have to take my word for it.
On a different note, I find the cheap battery lamps you can pick up at any army surplus stores are VERY affective for camping out. Also camping stoves are a real must, as they save making a fire, and are easily carried.
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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Corporeal Punishment
location:
Lima Center, WI
Gender: Male
Welcome to your heart...
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<Reply # 62 on 11/19/2003 8:06 AM >
|  | | | Uh, TT, if you were referring to my post, yes, it was intended to interject a little levity into this most serious conversation. I think that everyone has suddenly decided to get offended and that the best way out of that is through laughter. I've noticed that, person to person, some people just need to sit back and laugh. Nothing wrong with that.
Suit by Armani...Balls by King Kong.
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Intalex
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<Reply # 63 on 11/19/2003 8:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by MercuryCrest
Uh, TT, if you were referring to my post, yes, it was intended to interject a little levity into this most serious conversation. I think that everyone has suddenly decided to get offended and that the best way out of that is through laughter. I've noticed that, person to person, some people just need to sit back and laugh. Nothing wrong with that.
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To be honest I have no idea whether I was talking to you or someone else. I think it was someone else. I dunno I can't really be bothered to quote anything now.
Erm, what was my point....
Oh yeah! Oh wait no that wasn't it.
I'll come back to you on that one. 
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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statik
location:
colorado
There has got to be more to life than just being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.
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<Reply # 64 on 11/19/2003 1:56 PM >
| | | | You know, after hanging around this site for roughly three months, I say it's about damn time there was a good flame war around here.
Thanks be to the double T for providing such an easy target.
I'll say only one thing, and then leave this to the professionals...
I'm surprised no one took a shot at this:
Posted by Twin Turbo
Posted by outage
I fail to see the point of sleeping at a site for a few nights. That will only increase your chances of getting caught. Especially with all that equipment, what do you think the law would say about that stuff - I mean they have a guy in BDUs with night-vision equip. and sleeping supplies sleeping at a site.....I don't think that they or the feds would like that stuff.
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You're a soldier on a military training exercise, remember? Who's going to question a reason like that?
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If you say it with the right tone of voice, you would be suprised how often it works! Just tell them that its a no gun exercise, explain that it wont get them (the security guard) in any trouble, and then look at your map and wonder off. It ALWAYS works!
If they ask why I was hiding, I just tell them that it's part of the training, and that there is another platoon out looking for me. If they insist on waiting for the platoon to arrive, I usually explain some story about how I read the coords on the map wrong.
I have all the gear, nightvision, tent, camo nets, sleeping bag - its all army issue so nobody ever asks questions.
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Are English security guards REALLY that stupid?
I mean, if you got all your skills from video games, I'm assuming you're not in the best physical condition.
Unless the English military doesn't care about that sort of thing, which, of course, would explain why the sun now sets on the British Empire on a daily basis...
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xrahy
Noble Donor
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<Reply # 65 on 11/19/2003 2:08 PM >
| | | | Good god, these hilarious threads make it so difficult to concentrate on work!
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Asylunt
location:
MPLS
Gender: Male
The Friendly Beer!
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<Reply # 66 on 11/19/2003 6:10 PM >
| | | | Ahh...I love this forum. It's all quite comical.
Over in the Main category we have the security of the site thread going on, now in that thread there is some heated debate between Av and Jester, Max and friends try to interject some humor and are told to stay on topic.
Over here we have a bunch of people picking on TT for his video game warped mind, which of course has nothing to do with what equipment a person is to bring with them exploring. Statik and Xrahy also try and interject humor, and mark my words, this whole thread is likely to be edited because we are off topic once again.
But none-the-less, I chuckle loudly at my computer, many miles away from all parties. Hasn't mankind came a long way and put his wisdom and knowledge to such good use!
Asylunt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain |
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'Dukes
Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
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<Reply # 67 on 11/20/2003 12:18 AM >
| | | | I agree , this is getting kind of goofy. In Defence of TT, the original thread simply asked "what do you bring?" Well, he responded. Brits are very methodical and organized, so he described his "kit". He can bring whatever he wants.
But I was laughing hysterically at the "locked doors post" when he said "I kicked the door down in perfect matrix style". Why because it was funny to picture in my head (with English accent), but also because I knew what the immediate reaction from the peanut gallery would be as soon as he uttered the words "broke down the door". If I had thought of it, I would have created this member name just to break some balls.
Twin Turbo, You're all right . Keep exploring , wear all the fancy equipment you want, it's your choice, and don't take no shit off nobody!
Looking forward to your webpage.
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stealthy
You got a problem bro?
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<Reply # 68 on 11/20/2003 12:47 AM >
| | | | Posted by tonydukes
But I was laughing hysterically at the "locked doors post" when he said "I kicked the door down in perfect matrix style". Why because it was funny to picture in my head (with English accent)......
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Did you have to say it? Now I can stop laughing! I have Austin Powers pictured in my head, while saying that.
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Intalex
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<Reply # 69 on 11/20/2003 3:24 AM >
| | | | You've filled a perfectly good thread with racial remarks, half wit assumptions and baseless rumours. I'm sure the thread starter must be overjoyed.
Please do not make jokes about me with stupid English stereotypes.
Please do not make silly assumptions about my physical health, or indeed the physical health of the British army's soldiers.
If you are all so respectable, why is it ok for you to break the rules just to make a point about how someone else isn't responsible? And why is it you feel the need to take advantage of a "flame war" scenario just because you feel you "need the laughter"?
Is it seriously OK for you to do that? And get away with it? I've got warnings because of what I've said, yet you get away with making racial remarks and snide comments.
I now can't offer my opinion, or join in a conversation because of you people following me around, just squelching my point of view as some sort of invalid and laughable shit on your shoe.
Thanks a bunch, especially to the so called "helpful moderators".
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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stealthy
You got a problem bro?
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<Reply # 70 on 11/20/2003 3:40 AM >
| | | | Hear, Hear! Racial remarks have to do with what race you are. If was to make a snarling comment on your race, than thats a racial remark.
Besides, even the most serious people need to joke around once in a while.
We are "squelching" your p.o.v. because you appear so silly to us [Am i not right?]. I mean, you just bring it on saying you wear an NBC suit on missions and running around camping out NEAR sites with all of your high-tech gear. That may be all fine and dandy, but basically UEing boils down to a minimalist subculture. Catch that word in there, minimalist? It started out in a drain with nothing but rubber boots, a mag lite, and an interest [in Urban Exploration]. There was no Night vision goggles, no NBC suits brought with them. UEing does not equal show off your leet military skills to people who know you don't have those skills. Just tell the truth. Have you EVER been on a mission? Remember, lying isn't helpful.
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Intalex
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<Reply # 71 on 11/20/2003 3:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by stealthy
Hear, Hear! Racial remarks have to do with what race you are. If was to make a snarling comment on your race, than thats a racial remark.
Besides, even the most serious people need to joke around once in a while.
We are "squelching" your p.o.v. because you appear so silly to us [Am i not right?]. I mean, you just bring it on saying you wear an NBC suit on missions and running around camping out NEAR sites with all of your high-tech gear. That may be all fine and dandy, but basically UEing boils down to a minimalist subculture. Catch that word in there, minimalist? It started out in a drain with nothing but rubber boots, a mag lite, and an interest [in Urban Exploration]. There was no Night vision goggles, no NBC suits brought with them. UEing does not equal show off your leet military skills to people who know you don't have those skills. Just tell the truth. Have you EVER been on a mission? Remember, lying isn't helpful.
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You see I don't explore the way you do just to satisfy your opinion on what you think UE is. Nor do I do UE to show of my "leet military skills".
I like having all the cool technology at my fingertips, and so what? What the hell is wrong with that? I have explained why I wear an NBC suit, I have explained why I take nightvision with me. If you still have a problem with it then that's up to you.
I HAVE been on a "mission" as you call it. And I will soon have the photos, sound samples and documentation to prove it.
If you don't like the way I do stuff, fine, but don't you EVER bully me because of how I do something. You are just as wrong as anything you could accuse me of simply by picking on me in the way you have.
And yes, making fun of me because of my nationality IS considered racism. I didn't beleive it at first, but apparantly it's true. When you consider it, it's just as offensive as standard racism - you are picking on me because I am from a different country, then you are making fun of me, with the sole aim of upsetting me.
And I've had enough of it. Yes you are right, even the most serious people do need to joke around a bit. And I do joke around, but luckily I have enough self respect to see that what you are doing is WRONG.
You have no right to squelch my point of view because your perceptions on what you do make you think it's right to do so. I have a right to a voice, no matter how much you disagree with me or how much gear I wear while out UE'ing.
Do you see me ganging up on you with a bunch of other people, just to try and make you look bad because "I think the way you enjoy your hobby is wrong"? NO. And I pride myself in not doing something so hateful.
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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Asylunt
location:
MPLS
Gender: Male
The Friendly Beer!
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<Reply # 72 on 11/20/2003 5:08 AM >
| | | | Easy there Turbo! Look, you do have a few of us on your side. I can't wait to see your site, shit, it would be fun to do all the things you say you do, I'd love to camp near some site and use obsolete military equipment to explore it. It's just not the way most of us do things, but that doesn't mean it's the wrong way. I'm actually hoping that the flaming will end soon and you will be able to post in the near future without getting hassled, hence the humor. Yes we make light of flame wars for our own laughter, and if you don't understand it, then damn man, pull the warhead out of your ass. Someone needs to post a link to that old Arguing on the Internet/Special olympics pic, I know it is wrong on many levels, but damn is it fucking funny!
In short lighten up everyone, or this community will go to shit real quick! Who wants to log on and read whiney posts everyday, I'd rather be exploring alone and ignorant of the world's UE community, than constantly bicker about shit. And with all the Anti-American shit going on, we deserve to poke fun at you English Blokes! Just the same as Canadians poke fun at us. Who cares! It's all in good fun, I don't mean it really.
Asylunt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain |
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Intalex
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| | Re: Equipment: What to bring
<Reply # 73 on 11/20/2003 5:33 AM >
| | | | Posted by Asylunt
Easy there Turbo! Look, you do have a few of us on your side. I can't wait to see your site, shit, it would be fun to do all the things you say you do, I'd love to camp near some site and use obsolete military equipment to explore it. It's just not the way most of us do things, but that doesn't mean it's the wrong way. I'm actually hoping that the flaming will end soon and you will be able to post in the near future without getting hassled, hence the humor. Yes we make light of flame wars for our own laughter, and if you don't understand it, then damn man, pull the warhead out of your ass. Someone needs to post a link to that old Arguing on the Internet/Special olympics pic, I know it is wrong on many levels, but damn is it fucking funny!
In short lighten up everyone, or this community will go to shit real quick! Who wants to log on and read whiney posts everyday, I'd rather be exploring alone and ignorant of the world's UE community, than constantly bicker about shit. And with all the Anti-American shit going on, we deserve to poke fun at you English Blokes! Just the same as Canadians poke fun at us. Who cares! It's all in good fun, I don't mean it really.
Asylunt
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Thanks for supporting my website project! I'm sure you'll love it. We're gunna have sound clips of ambient noise taken at the site to listen to while you read the mission reports, and loads of photos to gaze at.
I really do agree with you to the point of making fun of other nations. I love america, and I am so glad they are there, but some of the things they say about the british really pisses me off.
I'm perfectly happy to lighten up, but no, you don't deserve to poke fun at the English. Sorry but there is no anti american stuff going on, it's anti bush stuff, and trust me when I say that we brits hate our own prime minister as much as we hate bush! 
I understand that you don't mean it, but sometimes a comment just isnt needed. If I really wanted to join into a little banter about nationalities I would go to a forum or thread that does that. But when I'm posting something about UE equipment...
I do like to have a little joke every so often, but if the abuse I have recieved in this thread and some others is what you call "joking", then it's to excess.
Perhaps just stop picking on me because I'm english and because I do things a little differently. I really don't mind the odd tease but I fail to find open bullying funny.
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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statik
location:
colorado
There has got to be more to life than just being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.
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<Reply # 74 on 11/20/2003 6:36 AM >
| | | | Awww... I didn't know the Brits were so sensitive about their former empiric glory.
Well, apologies where they're due: I've got a little thing against the English right now due to an unfortunate business dealing (involving a box of tulip bulbs and a phytosanitary certificate)... and unless you're in the business of exporting agricultural products to the U.S., I really don't have anything against you.
You still do seem kinda wierd, though.
Okay then, back on topic-
My old kit (which has since been more or less ravaged by a divorce settlement, at least the really good stuff):
Dr. Martins
Leather Gloves
Wool Overcoat (or leather jacket, depending on the situation)
2 4D MagLites (gone)
3D MagLite
Respirator (gone)
PDA
Cell Phone
Geiger Counter (gone)
First Aid Kit
Tool Kit (nothing special - screwdrivers and such)
Crowbar (gone)
Spyderco Endura Knife (gone)
Glowsticks & Kite String (no, not for hardcore underground raving)
Rope (Charlie Bronson's always got rope)
Carabiners
Gatorade
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Intalex
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| | Re: Equipment: What to bring
<Reply # 75 on 11/20/2003 7:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by statik
Respirator (gone)
Geiger Counter (gone)
Carabiners
Gatorade
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I can get you a cheap (but good quality) Respirator and Geiger Counter. But just out of curiosity, what the hell are Carabiners and Gatorade's?
Just for the hell of it, I'll post my extended kitlist in a little more detail:
British army S10 Gasmask.
Katana.
US army survival knife.
Kevlar Stabvest.
Headlamp.
Ex Soviet D-2MV nightvision goggles.
Maglight. (The one that doubles up as a baton)
Glowsticks.
MiniMag torch.
Imitation Beretta Super Elite. (all metal replica, just in case)
Kevlar Razor Wire protective gloves.
Philips screwdriver and flathead screwdriver.
Acetone peroxide putty binded with dinitrocellulose. (explosive)
Waterproof, chemicalproof NBC suit. (I have several, all in different camo patterns)
Camo Netting. (again I have several different colours)
2 man Tent.
Spare gasmask filters.
Rope.
Doorhandle. (seriously)
Lockpick set.
Utility Belt. (only available in black)
Motion sensitive proximator. (good for tracking guards)
2x Kenwood TK3101 Protalk. (2 way radio)
Well, that's my kit in detail. You should be able to look up most these items for purchase on the internet. Except for the explosive, but you should be able to buy the individual chemicals then follow instructions on the net to make that stuff.
If anyone wants URLs to buy most this stuff I can give them a few. Feel free to ask.
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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statik
location:
colorado
There has got to be more to life than just being really, really, really, ridiculously good-looking.
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<Reply # 76 on 11/20/2003 9:19 AM >
| | | | Posted by Twin Turbo
I can get you a cheap (but good quality) Respirator and Geiger Counter. But just out of curiosity, what the hell are Carabiners and Gatorade's?
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outage
location:
Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: Equipment: What to bring
<Reply # 77 on 11/20/2003 9:27 AM >
| | | | OK, someone's going to ask this, and I figure it might as well be me even though I'm going to feel dirty once I hit the 'Post' button, but....
Exactly what do you do with explosives whilst UEing?
Oh, and are you aware of the inherent instability of peroxiacetone?
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Intalex
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| | Re: Equipment: What to bring
<Reply # 78 on 11/20/2003 9:39 AM >
| | | | Posted by outage
OK, someone's going to ask this, and I figure it might as well be me even though I'm going to feel dirty once I hit the 'Post' button, but....
Exactly what do you do with explosives whilst UEing?
Oh, and are you aware of the inherent instability of peroxiacetone?
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I use explosives simply to attract attention. Not to myself here on the boards I mean, but to try and get the guards out.
Once they're out you know which room they are in, and more importantly, whereabouts they are.
I usually don't damage anything doing it, I just put the putty on the ground, shove a drinking straw into it, then fill the drinking straw with black powder. The drinking straw is used as a fuse, and allows me enough time to make myself scarce till the putty explodes.
It doesn't make *much* of a bang, it's mostly the sound reverberating around the empty site that does it, so often the security guard has no clue where the bang came from. For this reason I haven't used it in ages.
"What's that smell?" "Oh that would be me, I've been swimming in raw sewage, I love it!" - Naked Gun |
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Ninjalicious
Gone, but always with us
location:
Toronto
| | | Re: Equipment: What to bring
<Reply # 79 on 11/20/2003 8:08 PM >
| | | | My "kit":
Flashlight
Camera
Moist towellettes
This does the trick in 90 percent of the places I go. I come back later with other stuff (like boots or rope) if I find I need it.
Ninj
http://www.infiltration.org
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