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 Nvr2loud
     
Man with the golden shoes
Location: Huntsville, Ontario
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 80 on 11/7/2009 8:29 AM >
|  | | | I have extensive experience with rappelling and ascending ropes. I offer a few bits of advice....
The furthest ascent I've done was 120ft. I did this ascent many times over the years, it was onto the underside of a bridge. Sometimes we had a static rope, but sometimes we had just a dynamic rope. It takes considerably more energy to start a climb on a dynamic rope, but it is also a lot more forgiving if you mess up. If you don't understand the differences, don't touch any rope.
I switched to a rescue eight a few years back, got stuck on a regular figure eight only a few inches above the ground. I was first person down, so I had no help. Hung there for a long time, wasn't prepared. Had no way to ascend, and no training to ascend without the proper gear (have since learned a lot more) and had to wait for my friends to make it down from the bridge to the ground (skyway in hamilton, very long walk down the bridge and back along the ground to reach me) and rescue me. I had a knife, but since it wasn't life and death, I decided not to cut the rope.
Remember that a climbing rope with tension can snap with very little sharp resistance. You could easily rappel on a two rope system with a large rescue eight, a regular eight might be a little tight, a trango pyramid, ect. Set-up two complete rigs, one for each rope. That way you will have a complete back-up system if one rig or rope were to fail.
Have someone double check your harness, since you will only wear one harness, you don't want a failure at that point.
Before you attempt your plan.... practice, practice, practice.
PS cops have taken our climbing gear before!
You can't be lost if you don't care where you are!
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bfinan0
Location: Rochester, NY
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: rope work
<Reply # 81 on 12/1/2009 4:59 AM >
| | | | Just to clear up the controversy that STILL surrounds me and any underground ventures...
I have 100% discarded any attempt at this entry with anything vaguely resembling rope. Unless I can convince the county or state to let me in by a safer way and give me a tour; or I come upon enough of a fortune to be able to waste $4000+ on a fully mechanical system like the actual maintenance workers would use, I'm just not getting in.
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Nvr2loud
Man with the golden shoes
Location: Huntsville, Ontario
Gender: Male
| | Re: rope work
<Reply # 82 on 12/1/2009 6:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by bfinan0
Just to clear up the controversy that STILL surrounds me and any underground ventures...
I have 100% discarded any attempt at this entry with anything vaguely resembling rope. Unless I can convince the county or state to let me in by a safer way and give me a tour; or I come upon enough of a fortune to be able to waste $4000+ on a fully mechanical system like the actual maintenance workers would use, I'm just not getting in.
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Don't give up, you can do it... just learn a little bit more first. Maybe do some small rappels and ascents. Like many other people have already stated, use two ascenders, one attached to your harness to hang from, the other with a loop of runner. Move the runner up and step into the loop, pull the harness ascender up, put your weight onto that ascender, then repeat.
You can't be lost if you don't care where you are!
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dsankt
 
Location: live and in the fresh
| |  | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 83 on 12/2/2009 8:25 AM >
| | | | There's a chance I'll be in the US april/may next year, if I'm nearby I'll holler. I'm keen.
sleepycity.net: watch out for the third rail baby, that shit is high voltage. urbex and urban exploration photography |
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bfinan0
Location: Rochester, NY
Gender: Male
| | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 84 on 12/2/2009 10:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by dsankt
There's a chance I'll be in the US april/may next year, if I'm nearby I'll holler. I'm keen.
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I sent a letter to the local water authority requesting a tunnel tour for Monday 4/12/10. I was told to think about other ways in...this is what I came up with. I'd give it about 100000000-1 odds that it would work, but you never know...
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: rope work
<Reply # 85 on 12/3/2009 3:47 AM >
| | | | Posted by dsankt
There's a chance I'll be in the US april/may next year, if I'm nearby I'll holler. I'm keen.
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Let me know too, I have friends there-ish, so I'd make the trip up.
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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bfinan0
Location: Rochester, NY
Gender: Male
| | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 86 on 12/3/2009 3:58 AM >
| | | | Posted by bfinan0
I sent a letter to the local water authority requesting a tunnel tour for Monday 4/12/10. I was told to think about other ways in...this is what I came up with. I'd give it about 100000000-1 odds that it would work, but you never know...
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Got my answer back in only 2 days, by email (in response to a paper letter, no less): no such privilege is offered. I figured the same, but seeing as it is the last remaining (partially) unexplored drain in the city it was worth a try.
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DJ Craig
   
Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN
Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 87 on 12/10/2009 8:08 AM >
| | | | So I just bought a bunch of new climbing gear, and I'm really excited about it. Here's what I got:
Petzl Ascender
Petzl Basic Rope Clamp/Ascender
A figure-8
50 meters (197 feet) of static rope
I've used this setup a few times so far just for fun and I've loved it, but I'm yet to really try it out in a really practical situation. But I have some really awesome plans! I also bought a copy of the book On Rope which was recommended by a few people on here.
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"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..." -Dr. Suess |
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Loki
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: rope work
<Reply # 88 on 12/10/2009 11:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by DJ Craig
So I just bought a bunch of new climbing gear, and I'm really excited about it. Here's what I got:
Petzl Ascender
Petzl Basic Rope Clamp/Ascender
A figure-8
50 meters (197 feet) of static rope
I've used this setup a few times so far just for fun and I've loved it, but I'm yet to really try it out in a really practical situation. But I have some really awesome plans! I also bought a copy of the book On Rope which was recommended by a few people on here.
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Nice kit! Pretty much identical to mine, just remember that repeated use of the Fig-8 will twist and damage the rope, this can be lessened if you swap hands each descent.
(Blah blah blah inline descenders are better blah blah blah)
Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank |
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dynastar666
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
| | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 89 on 12/11/2009 12:19 AM >
| | | | Posted by MindHacker
Let me know too, I have friends there-ish, so I'd make the trip up.
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I'd be down for this too and I happen to be a New York State Certified rope rescue technician.
I shoot photos.
www.flickr.com/photos/dynastar666
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: rope work
<Reply # 90 on 12/11/2009 4:01 AM >
| | | | Posted by dynastar666
I'd be down for this too and I happen to be a New York State Certified rope rescue technician.
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Awesome! Does this certification come with toys?
I mean, rescue equiptment?
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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bfinan0
Location: Rochester, NY
Gender: Male
| | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 91 on 12/11/2009 4:13 AM >
| | | | Posted by dynastar666
I'd be down for this too and I happen to be a New York State Certified rope rescue technician.
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I'll show you where it is come April if you consider letting me go too...as you can probably see from the far above posts I don't know much about conventional rope technique but it was my idea back in September, and I can try to learn something about it over the winter
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dynastar666
Location: Burlington, VT
Gender: Male
| | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 92 on 12/11/2009 4:36 AM >
| | | | Posted by MindHacker
Awesome! Does this certification come with toys?
I mean, rescue equiptment?
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I've got 200ft of 11mm static line, a few rescue 8s, a rappel rack, a couple harnesses, various lengths of webbing and too many locking carabiners to count.I have access to equipment through my department but it's only for emergencies and training purposes. Maybe I could arrange something hehehehe
Posted by bfinan0
I'll show you where it is come April if you consider letting me go too...as you can probably see from the far above posts I don't know much about conventional rope technique but it was my idea back in September, and I can try to learn something about it over the winter
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Sure thing.
I shoot photos.
www.flickr.com/photos/dynastar666
www.developingpictures.org |
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DJ Craig
Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN
Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 93 on 2/6/2010 4:43 AM >
| | | | http://www.youtube...atch?v=37_9LYlgvMs
That's the only way to get down into the bottom of the silos at this location. I've been planning this rappel for about 6 months, gradually building up with more knowledge and experience and equipment for rope work. At this point, I've read On Rope from cover to cover almost twice. If you go down this ~200 ft descent and then can't ascend, you're screwed because there is no other way out. I went with two other experienced climbers and all three of us tried it. The video of them didn't come out as clear though. We had an awesome group of 5 non-UER explorers that night and it was such a fun trip. We spent about 5 hours playing with rope in a location that normally only takes about an hour to explore.
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..." -Dr. Suess |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 95 on 3/6/2010 4:17 PM >
| | | | Homemade rope ladders work nice:
It takes me about 20 minutes to turn 50' of rope into a 12' ladder.
instructions here
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
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DJ Craig
Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN
Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 96 on 3/7/2010 8:37 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder
Homemade rope ladders work nice:
It takes me about 20 minutes to turn 50' of rope into a 12' ladder.
instructions here
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This is cool. I tried to come up with my own design for a rope ladder once and it failed horribly. But, hey, rope ladders take all the fun out of ascending! 
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..." -Dr. Suess |
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.
| | | Re: rope work
<Reply # 97 on 3/7/2010 12:22 PM >
| | | | Seriously?
I am sorry.
Posted by uLiveAndYouBurn
Of course all of this gear is currently sitting in the police evidence room 
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uLiveAndYouBurn
Location: Beyond
Anarchocommunist
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<Reply # 98 on 3/9/2010 12:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by DevilC
Seriously?
I am sorry.
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Got it all back now, took about 5 months for my case to get dismissed.
"Aint nothin' to it but to do it"
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