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Anymouse
Location: Calgary, AB Gender: Male
| | | | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 100 on 2/12/2004 1:55 AM >
| | | That's an eerie coincidence, isn't it - all the nazi-esque moderators with the brownie point stars don't actually do any UE, do they? Those of us that go out every week or two (or more often) and explore - actually bring somthing to this community, don't seem to be the ones causing the problems.
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Solid Shadow
Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick Gender: Male
"I have clouded your mind so you cannot see me"
| | | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 102 on 2/12/2004 1:56 AM >
| | | I'm remaining neutral on this subject, I can easily see both sides of the argument have valid points. But I do wish to interject that the value of ideas and perspectives should not be invalidated because somebody does not throw down cash. They should be considered on the merits and flaws of the ideas themselves. Saying, your perspective is invalid because you didn't pay is dirty pool in the debate and a poor argument to boot. That's my sense of morality talking, feel free to disregard, I just felt it had to be said. [last edit 2/12/2004 2:05 AM by Solid Shadow - edited 1 times]
Who knows what places lurk abandoned to the minds of men?...The Shadow knows...MUHAAAA HAAA HAAA HAA! |
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IanK1968
Location: Scarborough, Ontario Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 103 on 2/12/2004 1:57 AM >
| | | I am not saying donate money, what about in the UEDB, or encylopidia, If you dont contribute, Do you think anyone will care if you leave?
Today is tomorrows yesterday |
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Mr. X
Location: Minneapolis, MN Gender: Male
| | Re: Question 11 - Who has the right to make the rules of UE and who has the right to censor us <Reply # 104 on 2/12/2004 1:58 AM >
| | | d, should have made it a poll though... [last edit 2/12/2004 1:59 AM by Mr. X - edited 1 times]
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IanK1968
Location: Scarborough, Ontario Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 105 on 2/12/2004 1:59 AM >
| | | I am not taking sides, Iam just looking at it from both perspectives. I UE alot and tried to stay away from posting in this subject, but I couldnt. I like to stay neutural and wil continue doing so. The money thing was jst an example of contributing, it could be time, effort, ect...
Today is tomorrows yesterday |
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F8l error
Location: SLC Gender: Male
| | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 106 on 2/12/2004 2:03 AM >
| | | Posted by IanK1968 I am not saying donate money, what about in the UEDB, or encylopidia, If you dont contribute, Do you think anyone will care if you leave?
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I contribute by ACTUALLY exploring and putting up what I find on my site. I think the UEDB and encyclopedia are both really lame ideas, and an example of how certain people are bastardizing UE. But yeah, I can see how my not supporting something like that completely nullifies my argument that this board is over-moderated. What the hell was I thinking?
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Rev. Skaght This member has been banned
| | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 107 on 2/12/2004 2:04 AM >
| | | I have never asked for money in any of the online communities I support. Ya they cost me money but if I cannot afford it don't do it. UE is freaking cheap hobby. Most hobbies cost thousands of dollars a year. I even offered to host UER totally for free and I own an ISP. Avatar-X turned me down. I am happily the hosting company for Cave Clan's new site. It is not up yet but I for a moment did not consider asking a cent for it. So much for free speech, apparently those with money get to speak thier minds, the rest have to shut up. [last edit 3/26/2004 4:29 AM by Rev. Skaght - edited 1 times]
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Rev. Skaght This member has been banned
| | Re: Question 11 - Who has the right to make the rules of UE and who has the right to censor us <Reply # 108 on 2/12/2004 2:05 AM >
| | | There is a larger thread in Website issues but I think this bigger than just the website. [last edit 3/26/2004 4:29 AM by Rev. Skaght - edited 1 times]
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Anymouse
Location: Calgary, AB Gender: Male
| | | | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 109 on 2/12/2004 2:06 AM >
| | | I am not saying donate money, what about in the UEDB, or encylopidia, If you dont contribute, Do you think anyone will care if you leave? |
Personally I feel the UEDB is an awful idea (I know, because I originally coined it with www.uedb.org, which Avatar approached me about before he started UER), it takes away the personal aspect of UE, degrades it to lifeless entries in a large database. I love small UE sites with their own group's explorations.. their own designs.. The encyclopedia is a neat idea, I couldn't think of any word that weren't already in there - otherwise I would've contributed to it. And I do not think anyone will care if I leave, but I just want to make sure that anyone else here knows that there is alternative places to chat that do not force their views and censor your posts - hell, that's the reason the original MSN UrbanExplorers Group effectively closed down, because of censorship by Microsoft. Av's board is not revolutionary in uniting explorers, I think a lot of people just don't know that there are better placse to go. And the best part is - it's not hard to host your very own forum! If anyone needs help setting up their own forum on their site (and therefore without censorship, none of this big brother linked forum stuff) - I can help them out. phpBB is really easy to install and use. [last edit 2/12/2004 2:06 AM by Anymouse - edited 1 times]
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IanK1968
Location: Scarborough, Ontario Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 110 on 2/12/2004 2:06 AM >
| | | I understand that editing peope posts is wrong, and I do disagree with a few thing that moniters do, but do you think using names, and saying the site is lame will help your cause?? Have you ever heard you can catch more flies with honey then with vinager??
Today is tomorrows yesterday |
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The Hitman's Daughter Account Closed
Location: ottawa, canada Gender: Female
hot pavement.
| | | Re: Question 11 - Who has the right to make the rules of UE and who has the right to censor us <Reply # 111 on 2/12/2004 2:09 AM >
| | | Posted by Rev. Skaught Stoners and vandals lose interest pretty quick.
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Nah i'm still here.
This quiz has created quite an uproar o_O But then again the issue of over-moderation has been brought up quite a lot lately. So it's really just another addition to the same old issue.
richellesart.com From now on and until the end of time, "Hip To Be Square" will conjure images of bloody bodies being hacked apart with axes. |
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Mike Dijital UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA. Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 112 on 2/12/2004 2:13 AM >
| | | Posted by Anymouse
Personally I feel the UEDB is an awful idea (I know, because I originally coined it with www.uedb.org, which Avatar approached me about before he started UER), it takes away the personal aspect of UE, degrades it to lifeless entries in a large database. I love small UE sites with their own group's explorations.. their own designs..
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Never such Truer words Here Here !!!!!!!
you know I got a pretty rad Forum , Hell even Ninj joined, can't be that bad. Costs a few bucks to host so what . So I don't have 3000 members so what , the info shared is the same and there is no mind control going on from the mods
I contribute too, I explore 3 times a week, update my site 2 sometimes 3 times a week, I have no pop ups so traffic isnt an issue, and I post my updates in the correct thread,
[last edit 2/12/2004 2:13 AM by Mike Dijital - edited 1 times]
www.deggi5.com / www.mikedijital.com |
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IanK1968
Location: Scarborough, Ontario Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Question 11 - Who has the right to make the rules of UE and who has the right to censor us <Reply # 113 on 2/12/2004 2:14 AM >
| | | I think thios just opened a whole can of worms from issues since long passed. Old grudges and stuff. This has nothing to do with the quiz anymore as you can tell in the other thread.
Today is tomorrows yesterday |
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Anymouse
Location: Calgary, AB Gender: Male
| | | | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 114 on 2/12/2004 2:18 AM >
| | | Hey, kickass - how about everyone here post links to their own site's forums? I'd like to make a habit of visiting all the groups I like instead of the big faceless UER. If it's against regulations to post links to forums here, then how about we all post them on one site of someone else's? I'll start: www.uea.ca (click on Message Board on the side) [last edit 2/12/2004 2:18 AM by Anymouse - edited 1 times]
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Rev. Skaght This member has been banned
| | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 115 on 2/12/2004 2:25 AM >
| | | Hell this site is very pominently posted in the UEA forums. It is interesting how the community has become so divided. Until recently I have only occaisonally visited this site. I was too busy exploring for the most part. On the UEA site we have over 300 explorations just in our vicinity. (uer has about 500 for the whole world.) We are much more focused on exploring and putting it on our own site then trying to get other people's hard earned exploring on our site. I am contemplating starting a geocities type concept just for ue groups to use free of censorship, cost or ads. I now have a direct high capacity commercial E10 link to Group Telecom (A Canadian company) and enough bandwidth to choke a llama. My company (As I own it) would have no problem picking up the bill. [last edit 3/26/2004 4:29 AM by Rev. Skaght - edited 1 times]
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Just Oni
Location: Brampton Ontario, Canada Gender: Male
| | Re: Question 11 - Who has the right to make the rules of UE and who has the right to censor us <Reply # 116 on 2/12/2004 2:27 AM >
| | | I don't really dissagree with the quiz. Yes, the quiz did seem a little demeaning, it really resembled something out of one of my tests at school, but something had to be done about some of the things going on. The posts were begining to get a little rediculous, and WAY off topic. Things even got to the point where arguments were breaking out. I don't really know what else to say other than whats been said.
Visit my NON-UE Website! http://spaces.msn....embers/goodyboy26/ MSN Messenger: [email protected]"> [00:17:29] <Just_Oni> heh I figured out my place here...I don't provide anything inciteful or important to the conversations...I'm just the lettuce to the sandwich that is AvChat |
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F A S T
Location: Oakland, CA Gender: Male
Coastal Wind
| | | | Re: Question 11 - Who has the right to make the rules of UE and who has the right to censor us <Reply # 117 on 2/12/2004 2:28 AM >
| | | I believe that Av based this off the general consenus of the community. So indirectly that quiz has been based upon the basic beliefs of this community as a whole. Why have a weak introduction? You shouldn't spray paint... just stop. You don't spray paint. If you feel strongly about something then ignore Av's quiz. I'm sure it's mainly intended for newer members anyway, and it can only help to discourage vandalism. If you want to tag, then tag. Just don't gloat your glorious tagging experiences here. Thats not what this forum is for. Are you here? Yes. Did you pass the test? Yes. So how about instead of publicly denouncing Av, send him a PM with your concerns regarding this issue. Like you said, it's his forum. No hard feelings, just wanted to get my point across. UEXplorer
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Mike Dijital UEDB Moderator
Location: Boston MA. Gender: Male
UE ver. 1.0
| | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 118 on 2/12/2004 2:29 AM >
| | | Posted by Anymouse Hey, kickass - how about everyone here post links to their own site's forums? I'd like to make a habit of visiting all the groups I like instead of the big faceless UER. If it's against regulations to post links to forums here, then how about we all post them on one site of someone else's? I'll start: www.uea.ca (click on Message Board on the side)
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yes, as well as the comunicate button on my site http://www.abandonspaces.net
www.deggi5.com / www.mikedijital.com |
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| | | | | Re: Nazi moderation <Reply # 119 on 2/12/2004 2:31 AM >
| | | Posted by F8l error And as an actual Urban explorer (of which there are few on this board)...
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Fuck you, F8l.
Posted by Anymouse That's an eerie coincidence, isn't it - all the nazi-esque moderators with the brownie point stars don't actually do any UE, do they?
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Fuck you, Anymouse. I would have come in on this sooner, but I was out exploring. So, we have all this because something new happened. A QUIZ! DEAR LORD, CHANGE! What ever shall we do?!? You all spout off about how horrible this forum is - but answer me this; why do you keep bringing your sorry asses back? Do us all a favour and logout, and never come back. I'm tired of the shit you keep stirring up. You think you wasted 2 minutes of your precious single life on the UE quiz? You just wasted 10 minutes of my life because I had to read through your brainless crap. Go away, kids, you bother me. C.
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