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mike16
     
location:
Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
"I AM the sign"
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<Reply # 160 on 4/16/2007 8:56 PM >
|  | | | I havent read much in here. I read the first few posts.
Graffiti is much different that tagging. Graffiti is the work of an artist. Tagging is the work of a fucking idiot and criminal. Like, ok. Your name is Tucker. I dont care. Fuck Tucker, Tucker sucks. If you sit at home and come up with complex artistic renderings of what you want on paper, and then bring that concept to life on a wall, and it looks good, its art. It doesnt even have to look super great, I mean, it should, but we all start somewhere. It's like drawing on paper. Your graffitiing that paper. These people just want their work publicised. I find nothing wrong, and I actually enjoy looking at graffiti, just not names. Hamilton is packed with "PAC" "KTA" and so on, and thats just stupid. "I want to rip off all their ears and stab their eyes out"(Moneen Lyrics)
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DeadBunny
location:
New Orleans, LA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 161 on 4/16/2007 10:54 PM >
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Sorry I gave you anthrax and replaced your fuzzy bunny body with a bomb 
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where was I for this. 
Do not proffer sympathy to the mentally ill. Tell them firmly "I am not paid to listen to this drivel. You are a terminal fool". |
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DeadBunny
location:
New Orleans, LA
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 162 on 4/16/2007 11:14 PM >
| | | | I will interject my opinion here. Technically, yes graffiti is violating others property and is in a way wrong. But its also a peaceful form of civil disobedience. Its defiance against the abetrarty laws set in place to control public content. Its defiance against the white washed, gray scale, cubical, apathetic prozac world being shoved down our throats. Its a message that promotes free thinking and creativity. So given that I would see Graffiti as a necessary evil.
Most people associate graffiti with derelict, run down, crime ridden areas. Public authorities set out to cover up graffiti as though treating this fake symptom has cured the disease. They are in fact repressing the creativity of young minds who would other wise be doing worse things with their time. And this is just in the ghetto.
In sanfran there was a massive graffiti cleanup effort that targeted a single district. The authorities called it the "Graffiti free zone". The one thing I took away from this news was that sanfran had spent more on cleaning up graffiti than they did on funding the arts in education.
The end
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Do not proffer sympathy to the mentally ill. Tell them firmly "I am not paid to listen to this drivel. You are a terminal fool". |
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Atrix
 
location:
Toronto
Gender: Male
Veni. Vidi. Video.
| | | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 163 on 4/17/2007 1:36 AM >
| | | | I'm impressed this went on for so many pages!
The "necessary evil" comment made me think. I wonder how many of the access points that we use do we owe to the blunt entry methods used by taggers.
C'est en faisant n'importe quoi qu'on devient n'importe qui.
It's always easier to get forgiveness than permission. |
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Sketchbag
location:
North Vancouver
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 164 on 4/18/2007 12:48 AM >
| | | | Graffiti is beautiful in the right places. I don't care what anyone else has to say. The only places graffiti does not belong is in rural towns or monuments/statues. In the cityscape, Graffiti is beautifying. It transforms a dull, grey, dreary place into a vibrant haven of visual stimuli. I can definitely understand why some people do not appreciate graffiti, as a lot of it is just senseless vandalism. But I find even the senseless vandalism can add to the sensory overstimulation that makes me love the city so much. It makes for amazing photo opportunities (a bit cliche but whatever lol) and as long as it's not done on top of something else that I consider art,(other than abandonments, graf is a key part of the art soup that is derelict buildings) I don't mind.
I don't do graffiti myself. I tried when I was younger but never had the patience/talent for it. I sure wish I could though hehe.
It all comes down to "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Anyone reading in this forum should understand that. Most people don't find that massive derelict industrial complex downtown to be beautiful but we do. In the same way, many people don't find graf beautiful, but I truly do.
Hehe... our buildings are graffiti on the brick wall that is mother earth
anyways thats my two cents 
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"put one up for shackle-me-not clean logic procreation. i did not invent the wheel, i was the crooked spoke adjacent." |
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Air
 
location:
Canada
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 165 on 6/13/2007 5:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
This is the part that is not correct:
therefore the application of skills for the sole purpose of engaging in a criminal activity.
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You sounds like that guy in style wars in the train yard "graffiti is the application of medium to a surface...is that an art form..? I don't know --I cant tell you I'm not an art critic, but I can sure as hell tell you that's a crime"...
Haha.You can watch the whole damn thing here (its great!): http://video.googl...065949310221269915
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"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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TrixieSparrow
location:
Hamilton, ON
Gender: Female
I guess.
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 166 on 6/15/2007 8:03 PM >
| | | | Posted by mike16
I havent read much in here. I read the first few posts.
Graffiti is much different that tagging. Graffiti is the work of an artist. Tagging is the work of a fucking idiot and criminal. Like, ok. Your name is Tucker. I dont care. Fuck Tucker, Tucker sucks. If you sit at home and come up with complex artistic renderings of what you want on paper, and then bring that concept to life on a wall, and it looks good, its art. It doesnt even have to look super great, I mean, it should, but we all start somewhere. It's like drawing on paper. Your graffitiing that paper. These people just want their work publicised. I find nothing wrong, and I actually enjoy looking at graffiti, just not names. Hamilton is packed with "PAC" "KTA" and so on, and thats just stupid. "I want to rip off all their ears and stab their eyes out"(Moneen Lyrics)
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As a hamilton graf artist, I sault you! Lets go colour on stuff!
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90rock
location:
Calgary
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 167 on 6/16/2007 7:26 PM >
| | | | Im sick of all the tags around DC, but I do like some of the caricatures, though.
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theark
location:
Connecticut
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 169 on 6/26/2007 1:38 PM >
| | | | there is a fine line between urban exploration and writing graff...
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mcrae44
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 170 on 6/26/2007 1:54 PM >
| | | | Posted by theark
there is a fine line between urban exploration and writing graff...
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lol, no there's not. One involves paint, rofl.
Some people are like slinkies - They don't serve a purpose, but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down stairs |
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theark
location:
Connecticut
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 171 on 6/26/2007 8:06 PM >
| | | | perhaps paint IS the fine line
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blacklines
location:
the red stick.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 172 on 6/26/2007 8:28 PM >
| | | | the paint isnt a fine line--exploring doesnt (or shouldnt) physically change the location--graffiti does. I like graffiti, but Im not going to pretend that it isnt illegal or that it doesnt bother people, Im also not going to equate it to trespassing, its not the same--if you cant at least recognize that, youre seriously out of touch.
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KroniK
Gender: Male
In search of the perfect glass of kool-aid....Oh Yea!
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 173 on 6/26/2007 8:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
You sounds like that guy in style wars in the train yard "graffiti is the application of medium to a surface...is that an art form..? I don't know --I cant tell you I'm not an art critic, but I can sure as hell tell you that's a crime"...
Haha.You can watch the whole damn thing here (its great!): http://video.googl...065949310221269915
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I watched that a while back, i fucking love that movie.
brainwash= shoot your brains in a bathroom tub. |
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kppc25
location:
Kings Park,NY
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 174 on 6/26/2007 8:52 PM >
| | | | I believe there is such thing as artistic graffiti, but it definitely should not be put in some places. Some places it adds to the effect of the location, but some places it just ruins the location. It all depends on the art put up, and where it is put up.
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theark
location:
Connecticut
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 175 on 6/27/2007 6:36 PM >
| | | | i feel that the only people who are truly at liberty to discuss their opinions of the matter are people who are open-minded enough to take a serious approach to both ue and graff. it goes with the saying "can't knock it 'til you've tried it."
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DevilC
location:
Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.
| | | Graffiti Fatwa??
<Reply # 176 on 6/27/2007 6:50 PM >
| | | | Someone should appoint a UE Ayatollah who can then author a graffiti fatwa that will guide our actions.
OR we could debate it in circles for 9 more pages.
Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into tall buildings. |
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blackhawk
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location:
Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 177 on 6/29/2007 9:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by theark
i feel that the only people who are truly at liberty to discuss their opinions of the matter are people who are open-minded enough to take a serious approach to both ue and graff. it goes with the saying "can't knock it 'til you've tried it."
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The same apply to discussions on ODing with dust?
"Can you take a serious approach to UEing and looting when enjoyed together?"
Being open minded is one thing, but this isn't that deep.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Paranoid?
Gender: Male
F/RoX FTMFW
| | | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 178 on 6/29/2007 11:07 AM >
| | | | I won't offer up an opinion, although I can say that there is a distinct contrast in "Art" (however you define it) by artists that feel or care about how they approach there form and people that approach it as just another way to try an offend the establishment.
So I offer 2 items for you to decide which you would rather see interrupting your photo or exploration flow.
As a side note the structure in the first shot is still standing today, The second building has been completely demod.
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"Take time to deliberate; but when the time for action arrives... stop thinking and go in."
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theark
location:
Connecticut
Gender: Male
| | Re: Graffiti
<Reply # 179 on 6/29/2007 6:08 PM >
| | | | Posted by blackhawk
The same apply to discussions on ODing with dust?
"Can you take a serious approach to UEing and looting when enjoyed together?"
Being open minded is one thing, but this isn't that deep.
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i wasn't suggesting combining ue & graff -- they don't mix. i was referring to taking time to look into each subject separately and then developing an opinion of the similarities/differences between the two.
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