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| | | Re: Russia just declared war with Ukraine < Reply # 35 on 3/2/2022 12:47 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | This has been going on for 8 years now. Although I think Samurai and I are the only people here that have been following it for that long. Other than for petroleum exports, Russia is an incredibly insignificant place that's been run by one totalitarian regime after another for the last 400+ years. Russia is about twice the size of the US (including Alaska) and yet has about half as many people as the US. Much of Russia is inhabited only by bears, trees and Baba Yaga. That being said, Ukraine was the "jewel" of the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire prior to 1917. Ukraine remains a major agricultural producer where as much of Russia has trouble growing tumbleweeds. This whole debacle started when Moscow-friendly Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych got booted out of office and replaced with Moscow-hostile president Oleksandr Turchynov with prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk basically running everything. For most of Russian History, Crimea was part of Russia and their Black Sea Fleet has been based there. In the 1950s First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union Nikita Khrushchev decided that Crimea should be part of Ukraine. That was fine since Ukraine and Russia were basically the same country at the time and Nikita Khrushchev figured the Soviet Union would last forever. He didn't plan on Ukraine et al going rogue in 1991. Fast-forward to 2014 and the political tide in Kiev turning against Moscow. It's not terribly shocking that they took Crimea back. A unexpected turn was seizing the coal producing region in Southeast Ukraine (Donbass and Luhansk), but it happened. The folks in Kiev basically gave up on Crimea, but not on Donbass and Luhansk. The bulk of the hostilities up until a week ago, were mostly limited to that area. So what about the other post-Soviet republics? Three of them (Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania) have up and joined NATO along with several other former Warsaw Pact Countries including Albania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Hungary, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia. None of this has sat well in the Kremlin. The very prospect of Ukraine joining NATO would be a cataclysm from Putin's perspective. So here we are today. It's also worth mentioning that a month or so ago, what Putin mouthpiece Vladimir Zhrinovsky said on Russian TV when asked about the prospect of nuclear war: "We will go to heaven as martyrs and the rest will just die."
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