Soldat
       
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
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<Reply # 80 on 4/28/2008 5:01 AM >
|  | | | In all honesty I have been some places I would feel alot better going with 1911 or a glock. If a person wants to carry a firearm when exploring thats their call and I support them. There are some really not fun places to be in the city, especially alone and white. I'm sorry if that sounds racist or anything but it really is true, I've gone some locations where I stuck out like a sore thumb and came damn close to being in a real bad spot. I mean, I managed to avoid a real bad confrontation so far, though either booking it or just quick thinking but if that fails its always nice to be well armed. My knife is good when it comes down to it but you know what they say about people who carry knives for protection...they get shot.
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bujo
Location: saskatchewan
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 81 on 4/28/2008 5:42 AM >
| | | | weapons while you UE is a stupid idea. i think its ok to carry a small knife around cause thats just a good thing to have around, As a trained survival instructor i know how much stuff a knife can be used for. But carrying around a handgun is stupid, if you get caught trespassing with a pistol the legal trouble would be heavily magnified. especially when some people go all in black and look like thieves. The only thing i would ever carry as a weapon while UEing would be a can of bear mace for people or dogs.
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Nomeus
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 82 on 4/28/2008 6:18 AM >
| | | | Armed trespass in Florida is about 4 years.
Ei
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seanblaze
Location: philadelaware
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 83 on 4/28/2008 6:54 AM >
| | | | I always carry my 9.
For protection.
I never want to have some crazed bum come at me and try to steal my cameras, tripod, lens, b&e tools, crack, meth, pills, and heroin.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
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<Reply # 84 on 4/28/2008 7:05 AM >
| | | | Posted by seanblaze
I always carry my 9.
For protection.
I never want to have some crazed bum come at me and try to steal my cameras, tripod, lens, b&e tools, crack, meth, pills, and heroin.
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If carrying dope and UEing, a gun is needed if your going to have any fun at all. That's a given.
Posted by Earth Intruder
Armed trespass in Florida is about 4 years.
Ei
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PA's a mandatory 5 year in the state pen.
Packing on a school premises in PA is a mandatory 5 year too for bringing a gun onto the property,anywhere, even outside on the street, even with a permit.
Guns are not permitted at National parks, or DOD/DOE sites. Those are Federal crimes.
If your so scared to go somewhere, you shouldn't go. The right to use firearms in self defense doesn't include looking for trouble or criminal activities. Your right to use lethal force on the street is strictly limited.
In cities and suburban locations cops go rad when they find illegally carried guns.
Even though this thread was started as a joke, what's really funny is what some here believe...
[last edit 4/28/2008 7:11 AM by blackhawk - edited 1 times]
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
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<Reply # 86 on 4/28/2008 7:50 AM >
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Well someone's making speed! Yawn. It's a meth lab, like the 10's of meth labs and drug dens we've probably all seen at one point or another.
So why is a weapon necessary again? You had to battle crack heads to get inside?
As near as I can tell, the choice to carry a weapon seems to be a similar thing to the 'personal ethics' debate. At the end of the day, it's upto you if you carry a glock to explore that creepy old house on bissel drive, I suppose?
I guess all this thread is saying is 'don't cry when you get raped with your own rape stick / flung in jail' when it all goes wrong.
As for Octane (the original poster, welcome back!), well, now that he's tooled up, maybe he will explore and post about locations a shade more exciting than his local boarded up gas station or closed mini mart?
I for one, am looking forward to seeing!
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Soldat
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Gender: Male
The Mayor of Noobtown
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<Reply # 87 on 4/28/2008 8:14 AM >
| | | | If you go into shit areas of the city and want to take a gun I dont see how people can come down on that. If you think its stupid you probably don't live in a city with an average of about one murder and multiple shootings daily.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
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<Reply # 88 on 4/28/2008 8:17 AM >
| | | | Posted by SaraBellum
For those of you who carry weapons, when have you ever actually needed it? I've explored a LOT and never felt like I needed a weapon of any sort. Whether it's rural or urban, I've never come into a situation where I thought it would be made better by the addition of any sort of weapon.
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Well, one time I was UEing an abandoned warehouse down by the docks, when I stumbled into the secret hideout of a crack team of international terrorists who were planning an all-out nuclear attack...
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
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<Reply # 89 on 4/28/2008 8:32 AM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
Well someone's making speed! Yawn. It's a meth lab, like the 10's of meth labs and drug dens we've probably all seen at one point or another.
So why is a weapon necessary again? You had to battle crack heads to get inside?
As near as I can tell, the choice to carry a weapon seems to be a similar thing to the 'personal ethics' debate. At the end of the day, it's upto you if you carry a glock to explore that creepy old house on bissel drive, I suppose?
I guess all this thread is saying is 'don't cry when you get raped with your own rape stick / flung in jail' when it all goes wrong.
As for Octane (the original poster, welcome back!), well, now that he's tooled up, maybe he will explore and post about locations a shade more exciting than his local boarded up gas station or closed mini mart?
I for one, am looking forward to seeing!
Chris...
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A better question: what happens if you fire a gun inside a meth lab?
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Alias
Location: UK
Gender: Male
www.nicholas-ada ms.co.uk
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<Reply # 90 on 4/28/2008 8:40 AM >
| | | | If I was in America I would carry a gun because it would make me cooler than all the countries that are not allowed them
oh and so if I see panic I have protection against his mangina
www.nicholas-adams.co.uk |
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
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<Reply # 91 on 4/28/2008 9:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by racetraitor
A better question: what happens if you fire a gun inside a meth lab?
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Yeah, because they are not flammable or anything, hey?
Posted by Alias
If I was in America I would carry a gun because it would make me cooler than all the countries that are not allowed them
oh and so if I see panic I have protection against his mangina
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Sorry matey, but the 'Panic Mangina' was just an attention whoring lie on Panic's part. You don't need to fear his dual genitals, 'cause he ain't got 'em!
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Mowgli-dog
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C.
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 92 on 4/28/2008 12:34 PM >
| | | | I can't believe it's hit 5 pages.....oh the humanity....oh the stupidity...
"We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." -George Orwell
Rest in peace, my pal Mowgli - the best dog there ever was. |
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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
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<Reply # 93 on 4/28/2008 4:00 PM >
| | | | OK, I'm going to try and be sensible, present some information, and then I'm out.
This is a feral dog:
According to the state, New Mexico has over 100,000 of them, they run in large packs and they are known to attack humans on occasion.
This is a mountain lion:
New Mexico has the highest concentration of them in North America, and they definitely attack humans.
This is a bear:
We have lots of them here, and they do occasionally attack humans as well.
These are drug smugglers:
and I run into these assholes all the time.
I carry a pistol on some rural explorations, because bad things happen to nice people. I don't carry one because I am a gun toting lunatic, or because I have a power trip going on. Last year, when on a simple mine trip, my wife and I encountered a group of smugglers near the Arizona - Mexico border, and they made it clear that they wanted my money, my Jeep and my wife. My pistol and I convinced them that they would be better served by looking for unarmed victims, and I'm sure they will do just that, in a year or two when they get out of jail. I'm sure that if we had asked them nicely, they would have just gone away. BULLSHIT I don't carry a pistol when I am exploring buildings in cities, nor do I wave my pistol around trying to convince people of how cool I am. I carry one for protection in certain circumstances. If that makes me an asshole, or a pussy, or whatever else you'd like to hang on me, fine. I have no problems with my ego, so have at it. Just don't tell me there is NEVER a reason to go armed when exploring.
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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Happiedaze
Location: Galveston Area, TX
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 94 on 4/28/2008 4:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
OK, I'm going to try and be sensible, present some information, and then I'm out.
This is a feral dog:
According to the state, New Mexico has over 100,000 of them, they run in large packs and they are known to attack humans on occasion.
This is a mountain lion:
New Mexico has the highest concentration of them in North America, and they definitely attack humans.
This is a bear:
We have lots of them here, and they do occasionally attack humans as well.
These are drug smugglers:
and I run into these assholes all the time.
I carry a pistol on some rural explorations, because bad things happen to nice people. I don't carry one because I am a gun toting lunatic, or because I have a power trip going on. Last year, when on a simple mine trip, my wife and I encountered a group of smugglers near the Arizona - Mexico border, and they made it clear that they wanted my money, my Jeep and my wife. My pistol and I convinced them that they would be better served by looking for unarmed victims, and I'm sure they will do just that, in a year or two when they get out of jail. I'm sure that if we had asked them nicely, they would have just gone away. BULLSHIT I don't carry a pistol when I am exploring buildings in cities, nor do I wave my pistol around trying to convince people of how cool I am. I carry one for protection in certain circumstances. If that makes me an asshole, or a pussy, or whatever else you'd like to hang on me, fine. I have no problems with my ego, so have at it. Just don't tell me there is NEVER a reason to go armed when exploring.
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'Our plans are all laid out,
take all these unmarked roads,
we blaze the trails to places no one goes, yeah!' -Rise Against |
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MHInc
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Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 95 on 4/28/2008 4:05 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
Just don't tell me there is NEVER a reason to go armed when exploring.
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THANK YOU Finally!
MH Inc. Photography Canada
http://www.mhinccanada.com
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: Urban Exploration and Weapons
<Reply # 96 on 4/28/2008 4:18 PM >
| | | | I don't think anyone said there is never a reason to not carry a weapon while exploring.
If I was exploring the palaces of Iraq? I'd be fucking tooled up better than Rambo... But that's NOT the question being asked.
The original poster asked if day to day and in urban areas a weapon was a good idea. Tell me Jonsered, how should Octane fight off a drug smuggling bear, in an urban environment... with a set of chucks??
Again, may I ask also, what was so wicked awesome that you risked your life and your wife to explore? It must have been... fucking outstanding!
Chris...
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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SaraBellum
Berkshire Hunt
Location: Villa Villekulla
Gender: Female
Coming to a cinema near you this summer.
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<Reply # 97 on 4/28/2008 4:42 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jonsered
OK, I'm going to try and be sensible, present some information, and then I'm out.
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Like I said, Jonsered, I have no problem with people who are trained to use a weapon utilizing that weapon.
MOST people (not you) are not trained, and carrying a weapon gives them a false sense of security that makes a dangerous situation more dangerous for them. Rather than just running away, they're more likely to try to fight their way out, and lose. "Don't worry, I have this butterfly knife that I bought at the mall after I left Hot Topic, I'll take care of everything."
[01:47:56] <GreyDeath> Sara just stares her enemies into submission and eventually madness
"You can either be wise or a bad-ass gangsta, but not both. You must choose your path." ~~metawaffle |
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mortimer
Location: teronno
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<Reply # 98 on 4/28/2008 5:02 PM >
| | | | Posted by turbozutek
how should Octane fight off a drug smuggling bear, in an urban environment??
with a set of chucks.
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Fixed punctuation.
I keep picturing gang-banging drug smuggling bears with collapsible batons in a holster on their belt in St. Catharines, there's someone out there that thinks there's no drugs in Scotland, plus someone used the word 'mangina' and it's only page 5...keep it coming folks, we've just about reached thread of the month territory here.
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SeeThirty
Location: Indialantic, Florida
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 99 on 4/28/2008 5:12 PM >
| | | | I voted in support of them, but let me explain my choice.
I don't regularly carry a weapon, but I understand some of us may. You quite realistically never know what you could be walking into. So, I say if you feel you need one, go ahead. Of course, if you really feel you need a weapon, why go?
But yeah, it's up to you whether you bring something to protect yourself or not. I'm not opposed directly to either choice. MACE is a weapon, afterall, and many people carry it while jogging or doing errands.
12/17/2007 (somewhere in AvChat)
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