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UER Forum > Canada: Alberta / BC > Under the Garden City: Victoria B.C. secret tunnels. (Viewed 1431820 times)
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< Reply # 3120 on 8/20/2010 9:23 AM >
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The link is about as exciting as reading "Ghost Towns of Southern Vancouver Island", and likely has little else to add.

My understanding was that the area in which to search for the missing gold mine was somewhere connected to the San Juan river from Renfrew.

When I was at the CRD office in Sooke the other day, my little monster was terrorizing the sectional map. I really hadn't realized how much area is in behind us to the other side of the 'hat.

I've a good friend who dirt bikes a LOT in that area- and he has never found a mine full of gold

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When i drive to 'Vic, i tend to go through honeymoon bay, and south...recently paved all the way.. to port Renfrew, and south through sooke. So much to explore!





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They weren't done repaving from PR to Minute Creek the last time I came through there- and it was !@#!@# rough from Renfrew towards here.

(yes, I live between Sooke & Renfrew

Tunnel wise: nothing to add. I believe there are some of them, but am not convinced of the satanists, or the "vast" extent that some people think exist. Is there a fair underground in Victoria? Without a doubt. Is it as extensive as some people on here want to imply? I doubt it !

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< Reply # 3122 on 8/22/2010 9:53 PM >
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They weren't done repaving from PR to Minute Creek the last time I came through there- and it was !@#!@# rough from Renfrew towards here.

(yes, I live between Sooke & Renfrew

Tunnel wise: nothing to add. I believe there are some of them, but am not convinced of the satanists, or the "vast" extent that some people think exist. Is there a fair underground in Victoria? Without a doubt. Is it as extensive as some people on here want to imply? I doubt it !

Peach


It's extensive. The City denies it. I've seen it. Still, the City denies it. I've been through most, but not all of it. The City denies the existence flat-out period end of sentence.

I filmed it, screened the film, and still, the City denies it.





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< Reply # 3123 on 8/23/2010 8:04 PM >
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KK,

1. I don't doubt that Victoria has tunnels as far as the Hudson's Bay, and probably into the Emperess sub-basements (the tidal ones...), probably even as far over as the Legislative Buildings too. (although those ones are probably full of a wide variety of political poo by now...alternating layers of left/right wing poo...an archeological adventure to see who backstabbed who...)

2. I just doubt that there are tunnels running to Fairfield, to Swan Lake, or some of the other outlandish claims. Sewers, yes. (CSO, and sanitary). Different story there than claims of tunnels for smuggling/opium/coal/ect. Just do some math: a stand up tunnel would be 5x2 ft, so 10 cu ft/lin foot. So for a mile of construction, that's 1955 cu yd of material (1820 cuM if you are metric inclined). Where did they dump the 2000 yds of material per mile? In 1910...and HOW did they move it. That's 8800 wheelbarrows full of material/mile. The downtown core is compact enough that I can see managing to dig tunnels like that. If you use 6 yd/day/worker, it costs 333 work days/mile of tunnel. (I suspect that you would NOT get 6 yd/day because of the constraints of being underground- that's a surface # I have seen quoted)

3. I know about the film, are you going to have another screening in the nearish future in the Vic area? I'd be up to meeting people, I'm a generally nice enough guy...not more than 13 murder convictions, 169% of my body covered in tattoos, and would bring only ONE of my guns...but it's a 76mm jobby.



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< Reply # 3124 on 8/24/2010 2:35 AM >
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i wannna see the moooovie tooooooooo!!!




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a stand up tunnel would be 5x2 ft, so 10 cu ft/lin foot. So for a mile of construction, that's 1955 cu yd of material (1820 cuM if you are metric inclined). Where did they dump the 2000 yds of material per mile? In 1910...and HOW did they move it. That's 8800 wheelbarrows full of material/mile. The downtown core is compact enough that I can see managing to dig tunnels like that. If you use 6 yd/day/worker, it costs 333 work days/mile of tunnel. (I suspect that you would NOT get 6 yd/day because of the constraints of being underground- that's a surface # I have seen quoted)

Peach


It can be done, and has been
seen it, pretty much been in it, just haven't walked all the way threw
size is just a bit different




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< Reply # 3126 on 8/25/2010 1:53 AM >
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But why would you put people to work digging from downtown to Sidney???? It doesn't add up as to _why_ you would do it. I don't doubt tunnels under the downtown core, connecting buildings & all sorts. That much doesn't at all supprise me. But I cannot see them digging like "The tunnels of Chu Choi" around Vic. It doesn't make sense- the risks on the surface wouldn't exceed the work of making the underground.

When it is under a street, or between buildings, sure. But use that figure of 333 person/days mile, and that's a absolute best case- I think the actual progress would be much closer to that on "Tom, Dick & Harry"...

If you've been under "miles" of victoria, I'd love to see evidence- and I'll pay for the coffee/beer/tea to see evidence of it. I am restricted in what I can do as regards illegal actions, as I am a DND employee...

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So many people have "seen" these tunnels, yet nobody has posted a photo of them. Curious....




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< Reply # 3128 on 8/26/2010 4:43 AM >
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So many people have "seen" these tunnels, yet nobody has posted a photo of them. Curious....


Kinda hard to post video. And I'll never hike my doc up into Youtube or whatever, so maybe there should be a screening. Who knows.

Oh. And this...but really...Swan Lake? Why on God's green earth would there be a tunnel to Swan Lake?




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Yes, KK. Why in God's name would there be a tunnel to Swan's Lake? (LOL).

Secondly. Don't believe we have tunnels in Fairfield?
Perhaps you should look back on the *cough* photos *cough* posted on this thread. And then there's ones that don't get their photos put on the 'net because the internet is kinda stupid.
(Av-X, i'm not dissing you or anything. Your website is cool. UER definitely has its place and its role in cultural exchanges. I'm just kinda stating a general reality that is good to keep in mind).

Yes, sewer tunnels, drain tunnels, and fully walkable opium tunnels, and then some.

Yes, here in Victoria we have all of these. Big ones, small ones, medium size one, enough to keep every half-starving head-tax paying Chinese immigrant from 1880 to 1920 busy.

How did we move rock?

The tunnels weren't secret when they were built. We also used trains.

Chinese people and miners from Nanaimo.

KK knows. We all know.

Alright. My work here is done for the day. It's 1:00.............that means it's beertime!




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< Reply # 3130 on 8/28/2010 2:09 AM >
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About tunnel photos; Many pics on our private threads... some of kinky parties, some of tunnels. Some of kinky parties in tunnels. And in K.K.'s film.

Even a few slightly blurry, -I mean it was scary- images of people in hoods. They were in the distance, faces hidden, we looked at each other, then back, and not a trace. They seemed to have melted into the walls.

I had a terrifying experience at Swan Lake last winter. Put my kayak in around dusk at the wharf. Was hoping to get some photos of birds. After puttering along the shore for a bit, I turned and headed towards the middle of this small lake.

A few minutes later, something darkened the already darkish water. I blinked and refocused. What could make such a huge part of the lake suddenly pitch black?

I sat there stunned; the blackness was moving, weird currents started happening, my kayak seemed to start shaking, at a very high frequency. Managed to lift my camera, took a blurry photo, then it seized when advancing the film.

Something huge was rising to the surface! Terrified, I tried to back paddle, turn and bolt for the dock, but the water had a mind of it's own, it gripped my tiny craft like the backwash at the edge of a treacherous waterfall!

Then it surfaced, an obscenely huge massive submarine, almost bigger than the lake itself, it's nose scraped the shore, it's stern almost too.

It rose like a whale, water pouring off it's oily flanks, and suddenly, gradually, descended. Freakiest thing I've ever seen... Once submerged (safe to assume) it went back to the Empress through the underground canal built by Krupps (Heil) during WWII.

*Disclaimer: Believe it or not, all of this post is fiction except the first and last line.

There are rumors of a German submarine base being built in the Queen Charlotte Islands during WWII. I have paddled there, and we found some weird industrial relics.











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hey KK can i get a copy of your documentary




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A.Lien...you PROMISED to never mention the kinky tunnel parties. At least you had the decency to not post pics of me doing that thing with the sacrificial goat and the garden hose and the basket of figs. And the forty pound block of foie gras. Remember the time we fed the hundred-lot sheet of blotter to the Mayor? OH GOD...what a night. He couldn't get his clothes off fast enough.

Maybe a screening around Halloween.




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A.Lien...you PROMISED to never mention the kinky tunnel parties. At least you had the decency to not post pics of me doing that thing with the sacrificial goat and the garden hose and the basket of figs. And the forty pound block of foie gras. Remember the time we fed the hundred-lot sheet of blotter to the Mayor? OH GOD...what a night. He couldn't get his clothes off fast enough.

Maybe a screening around Halloween.


The goat was dead, so no guilt there, and it was close to 3 years ago, time to move on. I ducked out when the mayor lost his Stanfields™.











Btw: High Five, he says seeing the leaders Pentagram, I mean Pentastar...







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Pardon me if this isn't Vic specific. It is Island specific.

Vancouver island seems to be lacking a lot of high locations where on can camp out for the night. The mainland has sites abound. I like ham, pirate, and CB radio, as well as nighttime long exposure camera pano fun. Elevations with a view make all these things much more enjoyable. The Malahat area isn't very camp friendly. Mt Prevost is great..although its not all that high. Saltspring, specifically Mt.Taum, and Mt.Bruce seem to be the best in the islands area for radio, views, good vibrations, and photog. Mt Benson to the north, and west of NAnaimo is in permanent lockdown. Was great in the 80's for CB skip shooting. Mt Arrowsmith near Parksville is great, and one can drive to the 4000ft level with a car, weather permitting, and has some old CPR ski lift ruins to explore in amazing rare alpine forest. Forbidden Plateau is great, with lots of old ski lift ruins. Mt Washington has some great radio towers you can get to, even in a car with good tires, and has pavement most of the way to them. Mt Cain is rustic and nice to explore too, it's not developed like other ski areas.

So...Does anyone know of any rural, high places one can camp, with a good view, and maybe even some explorations to be had? Get high on mountains...not drugs!

Approved! SSI, Mt.Bruce. Good times.


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Nice dog..




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Green Mountain and Mnt. Brenton were popular ski mountains in the old days. Probably too small for your needs. Aerosmith Rocks, we climbed it as kids. Can be intense if the weather moves in.

I like your camp, dog, camo tarp, and the (almost) unstoppable Jetta!

Maybe topo searches could yield mountains of interest. There's a thread or post somewhere on here about an old Military tower or something near Tofino...




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Having driven around Arrowsmith, I can attest to what SteamPunk is saying!

And SP, I thought you drove a VW Bus?




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hey SP i know of a few areas on the malahat with a great view only problem is it's not the most forested area and sometimes there are rundown vehicles up there great view of vic in one spot great view of north island in another theres a few sweet spots on some back logging roads dont know how to explain them

lets hook up soon find a place to camp/explore and maybe drink some shine, my truck can make it most places and i will soon have another car which will probably be taken anywhere
hopefully you can get a weekend break from work or maybe ill get a weekday break

edit some areas only accesible by 4X4



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You changed your avatar?

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