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Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
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< on 3/11/2005 6:15 PM >
|  | | | Alright, I present to you, the population of UER, a solution to some of the problems we've been having over the last few months. This solution will solve "snitching" problems, security issues, and trust issues. Please read this post and all replies before replying yourself.
HOW IT IS NOW
Once you have an account, you're able to log in and see pretty much everything. The LDB, the forums, all that good stuff.
THE NEW WAY
THREE LEVELS OF USER ACCESS
Level 1 - Not logged in / account not approved / The General Public
- Can see the OTHER forum, and not much else. No LDB (at all), no UE forums, no Chat, no Events, no private boards, no search, no memberlist.
Level 2 - Logged in, with "untrusted" account (all UER members are currently at this level)
- Can see the OTHER and MAIN UE forum (not regional boards), and not much else. No LDB (at all). Can access chat. Can access any private boards they have been made a member of. Can start their own private boards.
Level 3 - Logged in with a "trusted" account
- Can see everything. Can chat, can use LDB, can create and edit locations, can join private boards that are public membership, etc etc.
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For a user to become "trusted" and gain additional access, one of the following methods is possible:
- 3 users who are already "trusted" must mark that person as being "trusted" (essentially a "this person is a friend of mine" thing.) Once three people say they trust that person, the person becomes trusted themselves.
OR
- 1 user who is already "trusted" marks that person as being trusted, and they've been a member for more than 2 weeks, and a moderator also thinks they deserve an account (after having looked at their posts / etc).
OR
- In the event of the member being someone that doesn't know anyone else, a mod can assign Trusted based on other data, like their site, or how they feel about the person. Needs more discussion.
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If we implement this, all current members would be immediatly switched to Level 2. Then, us mods & admins will assign Trusted status to those we know and trust, and it will propagate out from there.
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Doing things that breaks people's trust in you will remove your "trusted" status, bringing you back to Level 2. For example, snitching on someone is not against the rules, but will break your trusted status.
You'll be able to look at any members' Profile and see who "trusts" them -- and then look at who "trusts" those people, and so on. It'll be up to you to decide if you are going to trust them with sensitive data yourself.
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What's this all for?
If we implement this system, it will have very little cons I think, and a lot of pro's. It will allow us to feel more secure about posting on the site.
We're looking at implementing this over the next week or so.
Thoughts? Opinions?
[last edit 3/26/2005 5:35 AM by Servo - edited 4 times]
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Roadwolf
   
The Wolf!
Location: Buffalo, NY (formerly Toronto, Canada)
Gender: Male
Living on the Road and Rails.
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<Reply # 1 on 3/11/2005 6:21 PM >
| | | | Great Idea Av.. I am all for that. infact this is very similar to a idea I suggested to you a few months ago.. infact almost identical. except for the loosing trust bit.. which is cool... i like it, i hope everyone else does aswell, it will cut down alot of the shit that goes on in here....
-Roadwolf,
Add me on Skype or Steam: Roadwolf611
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Clockwork
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
I WILL KILL THIS MONKEY! I'M CRAZY!
| |  | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 2 on 3/11/2005 6:22 PM >
| | | | I dunno if it's the best way to bring about positive change, but it's deffinately a step in the right direction.
I think you might get flooded with a lot of requests for "trusted status" and that could take a lot of time to sift through. Especially if every "trusted" person needs three other trustees to get in. Still, despite the complicated nature of the system, I feel it's far better than what we have in place.
I support this.
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Stewie
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
kill your idols
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<Reply # 3 on 3/11/2005 6:24 PM >
| | | | Sounds alright to me I suppose... so..... does this mean we get a star for being trusted ? 
> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit. |
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Fubster
Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida
Gender: Male
Though highly intelligent, guide dogs cannot interpret street signs.
| | | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 4 on 3/11/2005 6:24 PM >
| | | | This is a great idea. I think that this will defiantly make UER a better place, and I'm totally for it.
At first, when this system will be implemented, people will complain and there will be problems with it, but when all the kinks are worked out, I think that this will be a great way to do things.
[last edit 3/11/2005 6:29 PM by Fubster - edited 2 times]
Sometimes, you need to march right in and demand your rights, even if you don't know what your rights are, or who it is you're talking to. Then, on your way out, slam the door. |
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David E
Location: San Francisco, CA
Gender: Male
Do not believe everything you see on TV.
| | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 5 on 3/11/2005 6:25 PM >
| | | | I like it, but it brings up this fact: There will now be clans and cliques on this board that even more distrusting and secretive than before. If someone gets into an argument in RL with someone else, they 'unmark' the 'trust' and then that person is screwed.
The whole idea and concept is great but it still leaves the people here being able to hold petty disputes and do wrong to people who just may not deserve it.
FREE THE UER 6! DOWN WITH UER LACKEYS! And to the mod that changed my sig, blow me! |
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Scaggs
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 6 on 3/11/2005 6:25 PM >
| | | | I do like this. It's definitely a step in the right direction.
Of course, the devil is in the details, as we will see in the next few weeks, but if everyone who actually gives a shit about UER participates properly, this will work very well.
Will the "trusted" start apply to this solution?
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Bratchny
Location: New York City
Gender: Male
| | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 7 on 3/11/2005 6:38 PM >
| | | | I understand the need to limit access to certain areas to help protect everyone, that is great - I'm just not sure about the rating system as it is proposed. If I understand correctly, all of us are level 2 at the onset - then level three (trusted level) once someone vouches for us. In my case, I'd worry that I don't really know anyone on this site, and would not get to be "trusted" even though I have contributed to the LDB and the site overall. I mean, if I can't access the LDB as a level 2, then why spend the time to add locations??
Like I said, the idea is a good one, but I guess I'm selfishly worried.
That is my 2 cents...
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Snarg
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 8 on 3/11/2005 6:39 PM >
| | | | Although I do like the idea, I have a few very minor issues.
Although I have been a member of this site for quite some time and have contributed to the LDB, I am not active at all in the forum so therefore very few, if any, people 'know' me. Since nobody knows me, nobody will trust me.
Also, say someone does decide to trust me. I get 'voted in' and decide to become active on the forums. I get into an Internet 'discussion' with someone. It would be very easy for someone to pull my 'trust' based upon emotion.
Once again, I do like the idea. There is a good deal of sensative information that needs to be protected. I just hope that I can gain peoples trust, since I am an unknown.
Mean people suck.
Nice people swallow. |
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Chainsaw
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: Underground, Colorado
Gender: Male
| | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 9 on 3/11/2005 6:43 PM >
| | | | Grumble grumble...star belly sneeches...grumble grumble...
It's your board. Do what you like.
One note though, I'd like to remove the locations I have posted in the database before I lose my access to the database. I don't think it would be fair to keep database locations available for other members when the creator is not able to access them. Especially when they are in no position to determine who can or cannot see them.
I'm not much for sucking admin dick, so I assume it will be a while before I get any kind of trusted status and I don't think it's appropriate for you to restrict *my* access to the content *I* provided because of it.
So, you can either pull down the locations I have created and remove the content I contributed to other locations or I'll do it myself.
Quid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
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Servo
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<Reply # 10 on 3/11/2005 6:44 PM >
| | | | To address some things I see being brought up:
- I don't think you'll be able to pull trust on a whim; that is, you probably won't be able to "un-trust" someone without good reason. If you do find out that someone has done something that deserves removal of trust, you would bring that to the moderators with some evidence and we would then move that person back down to a level 2.
- People who don't know anyone but have contributed significantly to the site and are obviously trustworthy will likely still be assigned trusted status.
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Down State
This member has been banned.
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<Reply # 11 on 3/11/2005 6:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by Bratchny
I'd worry that I don't really know anyone on this site, and would not get to be "trusted" even though I have contributed to the LDB and the site overall.
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Here is how to solve that, meet up with some NYC trusted people or some trusted people from NE, then if they see your not a cop or something = bam your trusted.
well done av, I really like how this will "force" people to get offline and go meet people if they want to be trusted.
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Snarg
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 12 on 3/11/2005 6:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by Servo
- People who don't know anyone but have contributed significantly to the site and are obviously trustworthy will likely still be assigned trusted status.
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Now you have to define 'signifigant'. I have contributed two sites. Is that signifigant? Keep in mind, the two sites I have contributed contained more then a little personal risk to myself. I could lose my job, possibly go to jail over some of the pictures. Is it signifigant now?
Unless it is clearly defined, it's to vague a standard.
Mean people suck.
Nice people swallow. |
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
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<Reply # 13 on 3/11/2005 6:50 PM >
| | | | Signifigant, as in, don't post stupid shit.
Av, I think it's an excellent idea and I'd love to see it implemented!
-Ex
Unit calling radio say again? |
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Burzum
Noble Donor
| | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 14 on 3/11/2005 6:51 PM >
| | | | Yeah, I am a bit unclear here as well. There is no one trusted within many miles of me, and I rarely associate with other explorers. I have, however, contributed a number of sites, photos and stories to the LDB.
Is there any possibility of allowing 'trusted' access to those who have contributed five or more well-ranked sites to the LDB? Since we are helping build the thing, i think some level of trust is implied.
www.rouskrew.com
because evil won't just do itself. |
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP.
Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 15 on 3/11/2005 6:53 PM >
| | | | Chainsaw, Burzum, I believe Av covered this in his original post:
Posted by Avatar-X
If we implement this, all current members would be immediatly switched to Level 2. Then, us mods & admins will assign Trusted status to those we know and trust, and it will propagate out from there.
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When the admins were discussing this, I took that to mean that users who have already shown themselves to be dedicated / trustworthy explorers will be given level 3 status as soon as possible. They can then help out in assigning trusted status to people they know, taking part of the load off the mods. I don't think you'll have anything to worry about.
[last edit 3/11/2005 6:57 PM by Freak - edited 1 times]
Turn off the internet and go play outside.
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Snarg
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 16 on 3/11/2005 6:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
Signifigant, as in, don't post stupid shit.
Av, I think it's an excellent idea and I'd love to see it implemented!
-Ex
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I do like the idea, don't get me wrong. But if you are going to set a standard it has to be: achievable and measurable.
Just saying, 'Don't post stupid shit' won't cut it. What is stupid to you is a goldmine to others.
Mean people suck.
Nice people swallow. |
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Frost
Location: K.Dot
Gender: Male
No beer makes Frosty go..something something..(Taz: Crrazzy?)..Dont mind if I doo!
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<Reply # 17 on 3/11/2005 6:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by Burzum
Yeah, I am a bit unclear here as well. There is no one trusted within many miles of me, and I rarely associate with other explorers. I have, however, contributed a number of sites, photos and stories to the LDB.
Is there any possibility of allowing 'trusted' access to those who have contributed five or more well-ranked sites to the LDB? Since we are helping build the thing, i think some level of trust is implied.
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Well shit, I'd trust ya Burzum, you were willing to put me up to come down and kick BPM's teeth in 
Why is marijuana not legal? Why is marijuana not legal? Its a natural plant that grows in the dirt. You know what's not natural, 80 year old dudes with hardons. Thats not natural, but we got pills for that. We're dedicating all our resources to keeping the old guys erect but we're puttin people in jail for smoking something that grows in the dirt. |
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Chainsaw
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: Underground, Colorado
Gender: Male
| | | Re: UER CHANGES -- ALL READ -- IMPORTANT
<Reply # 18 on 3/11/2005 6:58 PM >
| | | | Maybe by default you should provide "trusted" access to the LDB for those of us that have earned our DB "star" already.
Quid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
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<Reply # 19 on 3/11/2005 6:58 PM >
| | | | The terrorists have one. And by terrorists, I do in fact mean the tinfoil hat-wearing moderators of this board, one of which I've found to be fairly untrustworthy himself.
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