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VBJag
Location: Oklahoma Gender: Male
| | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 20 on 4/18/2011 2:59 AM >
| | | I've heard chicks dig scars, pain heals, glory lasts forever. Sucks though.
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TRAINS Foaming at the Mouth
Location: Canada Gender: Male
Ask me about my coupling equipment!
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 21 on 4/18/2011 3:01 AM >
| | | Craig, it's good to hear from you again. That story is awful, certainly a nightmarish situation that we all hope to never be involved in. Glad you've still got a positive outlook on the exploration hobby, though. Keep it up and all the best!
Baby like the way I wake her up, 'Cause I'm a gangsta, I grab her by the butt, Pull her to my side, I'm in deep, Woke that ass up just to put her to sleep |
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Lexi
Location: Oslo, Norway Gender: Female
I'm getting old.
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 22 on 4/18/2011 3:15 AM >
| | | Stories like this make me feel like cops should be hunted for sport. I'm sorry to hear about your shitty experience, but I think (hope) it was a one off and you're safe to go out again. UER folk are probably the best folk out there, when you sort through and pull out the bad apples. Dependable people, it's nice to hear you were represented without charge.
[15:00:33] <SeeThirty> cause you're not likely to be anywhere that other people haven't been who didn't have protection [15:00:41] <SeeThirty> still better safe than lexi |
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DoS-man
Location: Toronto, Ontario Gender: Male
what has been seen can not be unseen
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 23 on 4/18/2011 3:28 AM >
| | | Sorry to hear everything that happened to you and your friend man It sounds like a very crazy situation, something I hope I'd never have to experience. I could picture the whole thing going down when reading your account of it!
In the end you will be laid to rest where you belong. Bathed in the flames for your hatred and your ignorance. Your the symbol of masculinity, but I can beat king kong. |
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MonkeyPunchBaby
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 24 on 4/18/2011 3:58 AM >
| | | Posted by VBJag I've heard chicks dig scars, pain heals, glory lasts forever. Sucks though.
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Haha! Chicks do love scars. One of my friends told me about this event. I'm glad my friend healed fine. Are you planning on suing? I think if you did you would have a good case and could easily have that city fund all of your UE needs for years. [last edit 4/18/2011 3:59 AM by MonkeyPunchBaby - edited 1 times]
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DJ Craig Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 26 on 4/18/2011 6:45 AM >
| | | I guess I could also mention that I'm supposed to report to probation by phone since I'm out of town, but my probation officer refuses to EVER answer his phone or return voicemails. I've tried EVERYTHING to get hold of him. If I call the courthouse or police headquarters, the secretaries rudely refuse to do anything other than repeatedly forward me to my probation officer's direct line which he doesn't answer. It's starting to really worry me that I can't reach him because I can't comply with the terms of my probation. I have called him about two or three times during business hours every single weekday for the last few weeks. I have no idea what else to do...
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..." -Dr. Suess |
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K.Lagan
Location: France & Switzerland Gender: Male
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 27 on 4/18/2011 9:24 AM >
| | | Woa, that's some crazy shit right here. I sincerely hope that'll get back on your UE legs soon. As for that probation officer, have you got any way to get a meeting with him? Or just simply show up at the cop station and see what you can do ... Damn, these cops are really f- up ...
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DJ Craig Moderator
Location: Johnson City, TN Gender: Male
Break the Silence
| | | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 28 on 4/18/2011 9:44 AM >
| | | Posted by K.Lagan Woa, that's some crazy shit right here. I sincerely hope that'll get back on your UE legs soon. As for that probation officer, have you got any way to get a meeting with him? Or just simply show up at the cop station and see what you can do ... Damn, these cops are really f- up ...
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I don't live anywhere near him at all.
"You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose. You're on your own. And you know what you know. And YOU are the one who'll decide where to go..." -Dr. Suess |
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ActionSatisfaction Esq.
Location: Newark, NJ Gender: Male
Action always satisfies
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 29 on 4/18/2011 12:22 PM >
| | | Start recording the calls and messages you leave ASAP. If your phone doesn't currently have an option to do this (many do, it's just kinda hidden) you may also be able to grab an app that does. If all else fails put it on speaker phone and get a cheap recorder from any office supply store. For the slight amount of inconvenience it may cause you to go out and get the thing, a recording may be your only provable defense.
"The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - T.R. |
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Nikkor
Location: Montreal Gender: Female
| | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 30 on 4/18/2011 12:42 PM >
| | | wow! What an adventure! Amazing how things can go wrong during a simple exploration
« Une image vaut mieux que mille mots » |
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Speed
Location: Philly area Gender: Male
Retired Explorer
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 31 on 4/18/2011 2:24 PM >
| | | Craig, shitty story for sure. there is no way you guys should have had to go through that for simple trespass. especially in this country. youre going to do what you want obviously but in my opinion not disclosing the city you were in is doing a huge disservice to the rest of the active explorers on this site. its also protecting the organized gang that trampled on you and your friends rights. I'd hate to see another explorer going to _________ city just to type a similar story with possibly worse consequences. how would you feel if the next urban explorer in this city was shot by a trigger happy over zealous cop. (yeah, I know thats extreme, but I bet you NEVER thought you'd be greeted by a swat team and a dog would gnaw on your buddies leg) sorry you had to endure this steaming pile of bullshit but not disclosing where you were is protecting the wrong people. just my 2 cents I hope everything works out well for you in the end. as with most things like this, as time passes you'll ease back in and in a few months thing will go back to being somewhat normal (but never the same) good luck man.
R.I.P. NickSan | R.I.P. Don Corleyone |
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fiftyone_eggs
Location: jerzey Gender: Male
| | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 32 on 4/18/2011 3:09 PM >
| | | That sucks DJ Craig. What a terrible experience. I think this site should have a forum for "UE Horror Stories" where cautionary threads like this one can get copied and filed. Keeping track of real-life experiences like this would be helpful to the UE community. And I have to agree with Speed here that at least releasing the name of the city might help people escape a similar fate.
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'Raine
Location: Hamilton Gender: Female
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 33 on 4/18/2011 4:17 PM >
| | | Wow, if something like this happened to Cantaloopay or Dresden I would have gone apeshit all over those cops! (that's just a Mom thing) It sounds like when they told your friend "If he accepted medical treatment, he would have to wait many hours in the ER, and then many more hours in jail as they dealt with the paperwork and that we would BOTH end up spending the night in jail. If, on the other hand, he declined medical treatment, we'd be out of jail within an hour or two and he could seek medical treatment on his own" that they were just covering their asses. If he had opted to accept medical treatment "they" would have had to fill out reports, leaving a paper trail on the incident that your friend could have used against them if he wanted to sue for use of excessive force. If I were you I would start your own paper trail. When you phone your probation officer have a couple of witnesses present when you do it and make sure they can hear what's being said on both ends, write down the time and date you made the call and have them witness (sign it) also write down what you hear when you call and any messages left, especially if you do happen to speak with him. Can you get a record from you phone provider that lists calls made and received? If you can definitely get that as proof of calls you made and prove that he didn't call you back (so he can't say you didn't answer when in fact he never called) I don't know about there but here if you make a recording of a call you need to make a transcript of the call, the recording is not submittable in court but the transcript is. Also you have to tell the person on the other end they are being recorded. What does your lawyer friend say about it? That all said I'm glad you and your friend are okay.
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Avius
Location: Washington DC / NOVA Gender: Male
Wow you guys!
| | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 34 on 4/18/2011 4:17 PM >
| | | That totally sucks, man, but I guess it could have been a lot worse. At least they didn't give you a felony/jail time. And for real, fuck the ghetto. Like you said, every place in the ghetto is so scrapped and tagged it's not even worth it.
In places forgotten, tread where you will. -=- http://www.flickr.com/photos/avius/ |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 35 on 4/18/2011 4:17 PM >
| | | jesus christ, it's 30 hours community service. Just pick a weekend and get it done.
"No risk, no reward, no fun." "Go all the way or walk away" escensi omnis... |
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Speed
Location: Philly area Gender: Male
Retired Explorer
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 36 on 4/18/2011 4:41 PM >
| | | Posted by TheVicariousVadder jesus christ, it's 30 hours community service. Just pick a weekend and get it done.
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I'm guessing you're missing the part where Craig stated HE CAN'T GET A HOLD OF THE PROBATION OFFICER. the guy won't answer the phone or return his many calls. The kid wants to pay his debt. He isn't complaining about it. He can't get anyone on the phone so he can make the arraignments.
R.I.P. NickSan | R.I.P. Don Corleyone |
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MonkeyPunchBaby
| | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 37 on 4/18/2011 4:46 PM >
| | | Posted by Speed
I'm guessing you're missing the part where Craig stated HE CAN'T GET A HOLD OF THE PROBATION OFFICER. the guy won't answer the phone or return his many calls. The kid wants to pay his debt. He isn't complaining about it. He can't get anyone on the phone so he can make the arraignments.
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i've noticed that reading comprehension isn't a strong suit among a lot of people here. (in case this comes off the wrong way I am not talking about)
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 38 on 4/18/2011 4:59 PM >
| | | durr... nvmind on that then.
Call the DA directly, call the Judge directly. Then start calling home phone numbers.
"No risk, no reward, no fun." "Go all the way or walk away" escensi omnis... |
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fiftyone_eggs
Location: jerzey Gender: Male
| | | Re: Why I've been gone for so long... <Reply # 39 on 4/18/2011 5:03 PM >
| | | Regarding suing the police: As a teenager I worked as an ER tech in a busy Emergency Room. I've seen heinous acts of excessive force and police brutality. The first patient I ever handled was a guy who the cops shot in the face. I'm sure they were aiming for his head. The point is, cops bust heads in the line of duty every day. It's their job. Very very rarely do any of them get called on it. Even the high-profile cases never result in disciplinary action (anybody remember Rodney King?). If your friend was walking down a public street minding his own business and they loosed their dogs that would be one thing. But they're covered by the fact they caught your friend in the act of breaking the law - in a notoriously bad neighborhood to boot. Sueing the police would require a local judge to turn on his minions - the people who work in his department and with whom he works practically every day. Aint gonna happen over a dog bite.
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