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relic
     
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<Reply # 40 on 9/1/2005 12:05 AM >
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PLAN ONE
PLAN TWO
PLAN THREE
Step one: Buy hundreds of dollars worth of steel, oxy-acetalyne kits and welding masks.
Step two: Spend countless hours brainstorming, testing and workshopping abhorrently ugly, heavy and bulky pieces of equipment that aid in climbing this particular fence.
Step three: Realise that once you're on the opposite side of the fence, there's nothing left to explore.
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PLAN FOUR
Step one: convert Hummer to amphibious capacity...
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Random
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Richmond, Virginia
Gender: Male
Partially Retired
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<Reply # 41 on 9/1/2005 4:44 AM >
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Clearly you can see what has become of the fence in this picture. Please take caution, however, when utilizing your tyrannosaurus that you do not stand in front or to the left or right of its vision, as you do not want to be in the situation shown above.
Where do you get a tyrannosaurus? Simple
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Did you manage to paper-train yours? Mine just won't follow orders. Maybe I can get one of those shock-collar things....
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Disgrace
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Saint John, New Brunswick
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<Reply # 42 on 9/1/2005 7:11 PM >
| | | | As opposed to buying climbing shoes(which honestly have a lot more, uh, features than are needed to climb a fence), it'd be pretty easy to make some climbing shoes out of some kind of hardened footwear. Like those old strap-on roller skates. Just take the wheels off and drill a hole in the toe for a round-headed bolt. Screw the bolt into the toe, and you have a set of relatively small fence climbers that strap on right over your shoes.
For an example of what I mean:
Finding a pair might be hard, but it seems preferable to shelling out a hundred dollars for ice-climber gear.
I also liked the idea of the handheld fence climbers. If you have good upper body strength, you could probably just use those without any special footwear. Though, I'd change the design so that the handle was at a ninety-degree angle from the fence. Trying to hold onto a handle that's parallel to the fence would kill the hands, because all your weight is going to want to pull your hand downward. It's an unnatural way of gripping something.
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j0lt
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Kobe, Japan
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 43 on 9/3/2005 3:19 AM >
|  | | | Grappling hook, and a bag to hold it in.
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ThatLb
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 44 on 9/9/2005 10:06 AM >
| | | | two words.
bolt cutters.
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Jester
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Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
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<Reply # 45 on 9/9/2005 2:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by ThatLb
two words.
bolt cutters.
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Or you could try and do it without leaving a path of destruction on a newly built place...
I'd be over that fence faster than you could cut your way in...
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tnarduzzi
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Nevernever, LD, Canada
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 46 on 9/13/2005 12:13 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
I'd be over that fence faster than you could cut your way in...
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I thought the same thing until I got to the top panels.
Jester now don't get me wrong I know you have a reputation as a ninja, but the top panels are so tightly woven/welded that I doubt even a child could get their fingers in.
Just out of interest how would you attack it, supposedly without the aid of any tools/devices?
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RevSM
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South Central Texas
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<Reply # 47 on 9/13/2005 3:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
Pffttt, Grappling hook up and over in no time, and fun too.
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I don't remember him saying anything about not having any tools.
Personally I like the idea or throwing a rope over and then tying it to itself near the bottom through the fence. Just make the knot big enough that it won't pull through the fence.
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BigWangGlick
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 48 on 9/14/2005 1:43 AM >
|  | | | Are there any sections of the fence that do not have the concrete (I have no idea what the technical term is) underbarrier?
If so, why not just dig a hole under the fence. As a bonus, if caught you can attribute the hole to animals, and even if they do decide to fill it in you can always come back and unfill it with little effort.
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Jester
location:
Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
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<Reply # 49 on 9/17/2005 9:52 AM >
| | | | Posted by -normz-
I thought the same thing until I got to the top panels.
Jester now don't get me wrong I know you have a reputation as a ninja, but the top panels are so tightly woven/welded that I doubt even a child could get their fingers in.
Just out of interest how would you attack it, supposedly without the aid of any tools/devices?
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My rep is as it is because I find the way to get past most obstacles with no damage and no trace...
I've climbed an *unclimbable* fence at a medium security prison (as I linked to in my post above). The bottom section with a tight diamond mesh, that you can barely get one finger through each hole (can't wear gloves or can't get fingers into them), and it hurt quite a bit. Gripping like that I climbed with my feet flat against the fence (since there's no chance of getting even a tabi toe into anything on the fence for any kind of stepping). Once to the top panels, the tight mesh shrunk by about half, making quite a smooth surface that I couldn't get a finger to grip anything on. To beat that you have two options.
1. A grappling hook up to the edge of the fence and use that to climb the rest of the way
2. The fence has to have posts, even in the upper section, so using the posts to aid your climb is possible (especially since there is always some protrusions where the fence is secured to the posts/poles). That's how I (and Jolt) went up the tight mesh section. We then used the grapple and rope to go down a freeclimb (nothing to brace against since the fence top was a few feet inward from the fence edge to make it less likely to get out) and to climb back up to the top of the fence, then repeated the procedure to get down...
So in short, been there, done that (on what seems to me to have been tougher than the one in question here), so, it's doable.
Best bet is a grappling hook, easy to hook on the edge of a fence and would help you climb up and down as needed.
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tnarduzzi
location:
Nevernever, LD, Canada
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 50 on 9/18/2005 6:21 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
...2. The fence has to have posts, even in the upper section, so using the posts to aid your climb is possible (especially since there is always some protrusions where the fence is secured to the posts/poles)....
...Best bet is a grappling hook, easy to hook on the edge of a fence and would help you climb up and down as needed....
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Not to doubt that the fence you two climbed was "next-to" impossible, the fence in this case does not have any gaps or holds on the exterior. Even at the posts, the mesh travels completely on the exterior of the supports, bolted on from the inside with metal strips and lag bolts. If you look closely at my camera phone pic you can see this.
When I return however I will be shure to bring a grappling hook this seems to be the best bet. I hope my rock climbing background will come into play, it shouldn't be any harder than a 5.12 wall.
And to whoever posted asking about the footing, it does go the entire way around. On the beach sections it seems to function as a retaining wall as well.
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Jester
location:
Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
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<Reply # 51 on 9/18/2005 7:44 AM >
| | | | As for why you think it's so different from the Prison fence here
Posted by -normz-
Around 14 feet high, absolutely seamless, continuous anti-dig footing, and top 7 feet fabricated of anti-climb mesh.
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Ok, same as the top section based on that description...
Posted by -normz-
The mesh on the lower portion is 2" square spacing of what looked like 8 Guage (from my knowledge of piercings) steel. The thing doesnt feel like a fence at all, more like a wall.
Oh yea and the spacing of the top portion is less that 1/2", tight enough that my fingers couldn't fit.
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Which sounds virtually identical to the prison fence, though the prison fence was higher, and angled in over the top 5 feet to stop you from climbing out, and had a serated top edge to sever ropes...
Which just brings me back to what I said from the first post I made and every successive post, the answer is...
Posted by Jester
Doesn't sound any worse than what I went over to get into a prison here.
A grappling hook up should have no problem hooking at the top of the fence and up you go...
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Posted by Jester
Pffttt, Grappling hook up and over in no time, and fun too.
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Posted by Jester
I'd be over that fence faster than you could cut your way in...
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Posted by Jester
Best bet is a grappling hook, easy to hook on the edge of a fence and would help you climb up and down as needed.
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So as I said, yes I would be up and over that fence in no time, simply use a grappling hook. Hooking the top of a fence is pretty much idiot proof, much easier than hooking into a window or other structure...
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 52 on 9/18/2005 11:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by Jester
Hooking the top of a fence is pretty much idiot proof, much easier than hooking into a window or other structure...
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Yea.. you pretty much can't have the hook slip off a fence (even with a lil effort)
if you don't have or want to have a hook though just grab some paracord put a small weight on the end toss it over.. then take the end on the other side of the fence and tie it to the fence, make some migshift ascenders to climb cord that small.. granted if you have real rope and a hook this would take 5 seconds
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tnarduzzi
location:
Nevernever, LD, Canada
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 53 on 9/20/2005 3:34 AM >
| | | | Posted by -normz-
...when I go back the easiest way will be just to use a grapling hook with some static climbing line, and I'll bring my ascenders just to make it like "walking" up the wall...
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Posted by -normz-
When I return however I will be shure to bring a grappling hook this seems to be the best bet. I hope my rock climbing background will come into play, it shouldn't be any harder than a 5.12 wall.
And to whoever posted asking about the footing, it does go the entire way around. On the beach sections it seems to function as a retaining wall as well.
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I don't disagree that using a grappling hook is the easiest way in, nor do I disagree on the point that the prison fence was probably more difficult than this.
I am not exactly shure what that long post was directed at Jester, but ok. I understand you have been saying grappling hook, grappling hook, grappling hook since the beginning.
And I don't think I ever underestimated a prison fence, that is probably the ultimate difficulty factor as far as fences go. All I meant by the second post was clarification that there were absolutely not gaps at the posts, and no places to dig under.
As far as the hostility in your post, I could be wrong it's hard to determine tone through text, I find that everyone on this board moderators included seems to have an argue/flame/argue/flame attitude. Its really wrecking the community aspect of this place.
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Pravus
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Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 54 on 9/20/2005 4:34 AM >
| | | | As far as me.. I tend to take things rather lightly and I really don't get offended, and am not trying to offend, BUT I am a very sarcastic person, and sarcasm over text normally just sounds like a personal attack (which is normally where I'll throw an emote so the person knows I am not seriously attacking them)
Misunderstandings tend to happen, but not worth getting hung up on *shrug*
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Jester
location:
Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
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<Reply # 55 on 9/20/2005 2:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by -normz-
As far as the hostility in your post, I could be wrong it's hard to determine tone through text, I find that everyone on this board moderators included seems to have an argue/flame/argue/flame attitude. Its really wrecking the community aspect of this place.
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Just as difficult to determine whether any hostility or dispersion is in your posts when you say things such as "now I know your rep as a ninja but..." or "Not to doubt that the fence you two climbed was "next-to" impossible" which can both just as easily be taken as less than sincere.
To me the part that may just be a bit annoying is that you've had the answer to your difficulties very early on. Hell, fly me out and I'll climb the fence for you and tell you what's inside 
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tnarduzzi
location:
Nevernever, LD, Canada
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 56 on 9/20/2005 11:57 PM >
| | | | Yea, no hostility intended.
As to obtaining an answer early on, I was just wondering if a creative individual had any ideas for access without the use of equitment. I usually explore with just a flashlight, never been a fan of the "leet" use of gear and gadgets, usually just gets in the way. Plus as I will be flying down, without checked bagage, I assumed that grappling hooks are probably considered "a weapon" of some form and would be on the no-fly list.
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F A S T
location:
Oakland, CA
Gender: Male
Coastal Wind
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<Reply # 57 on 10/3/2005 2:35 AM >
| | | | I cant believe a 14 foot non barb/razor wired fence cannot be scaled. I don't care about anti-climbing. I am sure with some ambition you could climb over it.
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Hazmat_USMC
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Glendale, AZ
Gender: Male
9-11-2001 Never forgive, never forget.
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<Reply # 58 on 10/4/2005 4:50 AM >
| | | | No fence is impenetrable. I would suggest if possible and if you have the upper body strength, to use a grappling hook and some rope.
What is the foundation like that the fence is layed on? You can also try to dig underneath it.
No better friend, no worse enemy.
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BlueStreak
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Orlando, FL
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 59 on 10/13/2005 7:27 PM >
| | | | Grapling hook and a knotted rope is prolly your best bet, but the pole vaulting looks alot more fun!
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