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Of course not of the asshole that burned the book but of people who were in Afghanistan trying to help the people who live there. My God. What a fucking idiot. They told him if he did it people would die, so he does it anyway? I would be ashamed to associate with that so-called religious man.
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Posted by G to the Race
Of course not of the asshole that burned the book but of people who were in Afghanistan trying to help the people who live there. My God. What a fucking idiot. They told him if he did it people would die, so he does it anyway? I would be ashamed to associate with that so-called religious man.
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Should you be pissed at the person who burned the book, or the people that thought such an action should result in the deaths of others?
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Last time I checked, in America we can burn any book we damn well please. The people who did the killing are monsters that will use any reason to perpetrate violence against those who don't follow Muhammad.
Keep excusing their behavior and you'll be praying toward Mecca before you know it. Or dead.
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Posted by Trixi
Last time I checked, in America we can burn any book we damn well please. The people who did the killing are monsters that will use any reason to perpetrate violence against those who don't follow Muhammad.
Keep excusing their behavior and you'll be praying toward Mecca before you know it. Or dead.
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Sure he had every right to burn the book. But he was told that this would happen and he did it anyway. With freedom comes responsibility. That does not excuse the actual murders, however his act of doing what he did was a statement saying he did not care if all those people would be killed. On a human level, that is no better in my eyes.
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Burning any Holy Book is wrong. What would the reaction be if a mosque started burning bibles over in Iraq?
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Posted by MonkeyPunchBaby
Burning any Holy Book is wrong. What would the reaction be if a mosque started burning bibles over in Iraq?
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Fantastic point
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Fuck that! If they burn a Bible we'll fucking nuke the place.
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Posted by MonkeyPunchBaby
Burning any Holy Book is wrong. What would the reaction be if a mosque started burning bibles over in Iraq?
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Nothing. Nothing at all. The Holy Bible has been burned in the middle east, and we did nothing. God is in your heart, not a fuckin book.
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Posted by jeepdave
Should you be pissed at the person who burned the book, or the people that thought such an action should result in the deaths of others?
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The book-burning was directly responsible for the deaths. We know those folks are not stable, why set them off? What good came of burning the book? That guy should be forced to face the families of those murdered and eat their shit.
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"Christians and Jews are asked, "How would you like it if Muslims burned the Bible?" Well, here's the problem: we haven't burned any Qurans for hundreds of years (UPDATE 2 Apr 2011). But in that same period Muslims have burned millions of bibles. They still do it every day."
More here:
http://planckscons...and_often.html#fn1
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Posted by G to the Race
The book-burning was directly responsible for the deaths. We know those folks are not stable, why set them off? What good came of burning the book? That guy should be forced to face the families of those murdered and eat their shit.
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Ok, so by that logic if I own a nice car, and someone carjacks me and kills me for it, I'm as much to blame since "I set them off" by having a nice car. Bull shit.
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Posted by Trixi
"Christians and Jews are asked, "How would you like it if Muslims burned the Bible?" Well, here's the problem: we haven't burned any Qurans for hundreds of years (UPDATE 2 Apr 2011). But in that same period Muslims have burned millions of bibles. They still do it every day."
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Trade places with them, go for it. We have resources and lives they only dream of. This was a foolish provoking and if you can't see that this discussion is over.
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Posted by G to the Race
Trade places with them, go for it. We have resources and lives they only dream of. This was a foolish provoking and if you can't see that this discussion is over.
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It shouldn't fucking matter either way. Why do we tolerate it from them, yet would not from anyone else? Fuck that. Burn a Koran, people die. Burn a Bible, people bitch. There is a difference unless your too dense to see that. Those people are less than human to kill over something like that, and even LESS human since they are killing people who had NOTHING to do with it. So yeah, burn it, piss on the ashes and dump over their fucking mud hut while they eat their cold dirt.
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Wanna see something really weird?
I'm gonna agree with the christians. They used to kill people for burning bibles, but they got over it. Not just in nice western nations but pretty much everywhere. I mean you don't see catholics in Mexico (parts of which are as sucky as the sucky parts of the middle east) burning down the Saudi embassy every time some palestinians torch a stack of bibles, do you? When South Park showed Shrub Bush shitting on Jesus I didn't hear of the Feds busting any Baptists for threatening to gak Parker and Stone. I'm holding a Rapture Party at my place on 5/21/11 and I doubt the Fundys at the church 100 yards up the hill will do any more than they did when we had the Day Of The Undead Jew Carpenter Party last easter. Which was nothing. (Oh, and we put up signs!)
All religions are pretty bad, but for all sorts of reasons some are much worse than others. Guess which one is winning for "worst" right now?
And Trixi is right. This is America and we can burn any pointless stack of paper we like. I'm normally opposed to this, since people tend to burn books I like. But for any religions tomb I'll make an exception.
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Posted by jeepdave
Those people are less than human to kill over something like that, and even LESS human since they are killing people who had NOTHING to do with it
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Right, but don't make the mistake of thinking that those people are representative of Muslims, any more than those people who blow up gay bars are representative of Christians.
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Posted by MutantMandias
Right, but don't make the mistake of thinking that those people are representative of Muslims, any more than those people who blow up gay bars are representative of Christians.
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Your 100% right.
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Posted by jeepdave
It shouldn't fucking matter either way. Why do we tolerate it from them, yet would not from anyone else? Fuck that. Burn a Koran, people die. Burn a Bible, people bitch. There is a difference unless your too dense to see that. Those people are less than human to kill over something like that, and even LESS human since they are killing people who had NOTHING to do with it. So yeah, burn it, piss on the ashes and dump over their fucking mud hut while they eat their cold dirt.
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Who's tolerating the murder? No one. By the same token should we tolerate those who bring on murder? I can't believe a sane person would defend burning a religious text when someone (hell, even the President!) has said it would lead to violence. It's like the joke about the redneck's last words, "Hey y'all, watch this!" My God. And again, what good has come of burning the book? What good? Nothing good. NOTHING. Those people don't operate on our level of reality, they could not care less about their lives or anyone else's, heck they want to die to go to their reward. To provoke them into violence is just wrong. To defend it is moronic.
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Remember though, 99% of UER is college kids who have zero idea what the is actually happening in the real, dirty, ugly world.
Now that I think about it, 99% of the adults on here are guilty of the same
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Posted by G to the Race
Who's tolerating the murder? No one. By the same token should we tolerate those who bring on murder? I can't believe a sane person would defend burning a religious text when someone (hell, even the President!) has said it would lead to violence. It's like the joke about the redneck's last words, "Hey y'all, watch this!" My God. And again, what good has come of burning the book? What good? Nothing good. NOTHING. Those people don't operate on our level of reality, they could not care less about their lives or anyone else's, heck they want to die to go to their reward. To provoke them into violence is just wrong. To defend it is moronic.
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Do you read what you type? Why should burning of ANY book be automatic permission to be homicidal? It doesn't matter what "good" came from burning it, it shouldn't matter. Too keep making excuses for bad behaviour is moronic. Burning a book does not = murder.
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Defending burning of any book in even the slightest way is what I call seriously moronic.
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