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 Sinister Crayon
     
Location: Colorado
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 60 on 2/11/2007 8:21 PM >
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Their servers cost around 1grand. They don't use the best equipment. They use what is nessary to run the site to minimize costs.
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a P4 with 2 GB of ram won't run you more than 300 hundred dollars.
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tijeff
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 61 on 2/11/2007 11:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by Sinister Crayon
a P4 with 2 GB of ram won't run you more than 300 hundred dollars.
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At 300$, You think It'll be more reliable than the actual server ?
You need some redundant hard-drive , power supply, fans, backup ext ....
If not , it won't be any better than now I think
At 1000$ is a god start , but personally , I think the more reliable way it to pay for some hosting.
[last edit 2/11/2007 11:28 PM by tijeff - edited 2 times]
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Stalker
Location: Hamilton
Your Resident Red Commie Bastard
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<Reply # 62 on 2/11/2007 11:40 PM >
| | | | As IT and Network Admin I say that usual uptime is 99% per year. So do some 2nd grade math and you get... 361 days uptime. So they had 4 days.( or in case of 99.9% uptime they had day and 20 hours) They used 2 days. I say stick to current host.
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DeMiNe0
  
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Gender: Male
DeMiNe0.CoM
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<Reply # 63 on 2/12/2007 12:48 AM >
| | | | Posted by Sinister Crayon
a P4 with 2 GB of ram won't run you more than 300 hundred dollars.
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Ya... for a regular tower PC with 2 fans, and no redundancy.
A server class Box though is alot more expensive.
Stalker also has a very good point.
[last edit 2/12/2007 12:48 AM by DeMiNe0 - edited 1 times]
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Avatar-X
 
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 64 on 2/12/2007 1:50 PM >
| | | | Sure, when you look at it now, it seems like such a short amount of time. 2 days. Big deal.
However, it wasn't the downtime -- it was the frustration of not being able to reach anyone and not knowing what was going on. It was like a nightmare. Nobody knew anything. My emails went unanswered. Those that did get answered didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. ("Your server is pinging but is not accessible", gee thanks moron). I was in telephone redirection hell.
I would gladly pay a little bit more money to move to a company where they actually know the story and answer the phone.
I've been looking at The Planet -- www.theplanet.com -- For $199, I can get a server that's more powerful than the one we use now, and they're support is apparently top-notch.
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TurboZutek
King Dick
Location: Scotland
Gender: Male
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| |  | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 65 on 2/12/2007 2:18 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
However, it wasn't the downtime -- it was the frustration of not being able to reach anyone and not knowing what was going on.
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That, to me, is reason enough in itself for telling your current host to get stuffed. I can forgive all manner of accidents, mistakes or technical failures: as long as an organisation is honest and forthcoming in their customer service.
If not, they don't get my money.
Just my .02c
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z0th
Location: /dev/urandom
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 66 on 2/12/2007 11:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
I would gladly pay a little bit more money to move to a company where they actually know the story and answer the phone. |
it really does come down to price vs. customer-support/service.
nothing is better than a straight answer. thats really all most people want. and it _is_ worth paying a bit extra for to get one.
| I've been looking at The Planet -- www.theplanet.com -- For $199, I can get a server that's more powerful than the one we use now, and they're support is apparently top-notch. |
just make sure that they put in proper forward _and_ reverse DNS for you if you are running SMTP services off of them. ive noted quite a few mta's on their services that dont have proper DNS.
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seany
Location: Santa Clara, California, USA
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 67 on 2/13/2007 1:04 AM >
| | | | my previous comments aside (omg vm's r00l!... cough).
I have a server at serverbeach that's been up for quite a while now (3 years?). i've had my bumps with them, but overall they've treated me well.
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Hlywud
Location: Lethbridge, AB
Gender: Female
| | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 68 on 2/13/2007 2:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
Sure, when you look at it now, it seems like such a short amount of time. 2 days. Big deal.
However, it wasn't the downtime -- it was the frustration of not being able to reach anyone and not knowing what was going on. It was like a nightmare. Nobody knew anything. My emails went unanswered. Those that did get answered didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. ("Your server is pinging but is not accessible", gee thanks moron). I was in telephone redirection hell.
I would gladly pay a little bit more money to move to a company where they actually know the story and answer the phone.
I've been looking at The Planet -- www.theplanet.com -- For $199, I can get a server that's more powerful than the one we use now, and they're support is apparently top-notch.
-av
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In my opinion, frustrations aside a 2 day downtime is just not acceptable - especially since you're a paying customer. I work in IT and if the application I work on was down for 2 days I'd be out of a job real quick.
$49 over the current hosting cost is a very small price to pay for top-notch service. I certainly don't mind contributing a bit extra.
[last edit 2/13/2007 4:33 AM by Hlywud - edited 1 times]
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DeMiNe0
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Gender: Male
DeMiNe0.CoM
| | | | | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 69 on 2/13/2007 8:49 AM >
| | | | Give em a try. I can also stand up for the-planet. They are a good company.
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Umpire
Location: Shahre:'on Kaybec
Bonsoir et cest partie
| | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 70 on 2/13/2007 4:55 PM >
| | | | Posted by Hlywud
In my opinion, frustrations aside a 2 day downtime is just not acceptable - especially since you're a paying customer. I work in IT and if the application I work on was down for 2 days I'd be out of a job real quick.
$49 over the current hosting cost is a very small price to pay for top-notch service. I certainly don't mind contributing a bit extra.
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i agree, where i used to work we provided IT services to 2000 users in an aerospace plant. INternet access was one of the SLA indicies and if it was down for more than 5 minutes we had to start paying penalties. Because of that the T1 line was our main and if it failed we had an ISDN connection to fall back on.
2 days outage is unnaceptable in the IT world especially in a world of webhosting, if it was a commercial site im sure they would have been on it faster than flies to a pile of dogshit.
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DeMiNe0
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Gender: Male
DeMiNe0.CoM
| | | | | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 71 on 2/14/2007 6:19 AM >
| | | | You would be very surprised though on how bad some uptimes could be.... For example.... Would you rather have a host that has a major fuckup with 2 days of down time every 2 years? Or would you rather have a host that has an hour or 2 of downtime every few weeks?
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 72 on 2/14/2007 4:47 PM >
| | | | The latter, of course.
An hour of downtime, no biggie. Not good, but not awful.
2 days? That's missed emails, missed productivity, etc.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
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| | | Re: Hosting options moving forward? Your opinion...
<Reply # 73 on 2/14/2007 8:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
The latter, of course.
An hour of downtime, no biggie. Not good, but not awful.
2 days? That's missed emails, missed productivity, etc.
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You deserved an ETA for the repair time, and you shouldn't have had to beat the bushes to get it.
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