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 bkblonghorn
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<Reply # 20 on 5/28/2006 6:14 PM >
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look new guy its all cool just chill and read
hardcoregirl used to live down there and says she knows about it but she wont tell me so my guess is shes not going to reveal something like that in a public thread (just my dry attempt at humor sorry its not very funny)
(parts of this site you cant see yet because you might be a cop or a vandal or with the DAs office or the Dallas Morning News)
read the website rules first, learn about full membership next, a PM is a Personal Message theres a little orange button you push under their screen name that makes it happen
read stuff first ask questions later
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Where are these website rules so I can invest more time in this to read them? I dont see anything on the site labeled rules or anything related to rules. What do I click on to get to the rules?
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Explorer Zero
     
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<Reply # 21 on 5/28/2006 6:43 PM >
| | | | I can see youre going to need lots of help probably should hook up with some of the real explorers around here im just an armchair explorer and hang out on this website mainly
I would start at the big thread labeled in all caps UNIVERSAL FAQ, the FAQ part means frequently asked questions, its initials! kinda like PM stands for personal message and UE stands for urban exploration
wait dont wear your mouse hand out too much searching, I'll put the link right here for you http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=27619
when youre through reading go to the main forum, start a new thread about what you should explore and how to get there what kind of flashlight is best for ue (urban exploration)
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bkblonghorn
Gender: Male
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 22 on 5/29/2006 3:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
I can see youre going to need lots of help probably should hook up with some of the real explorers around here im just an armchair explorer and hang out on this website mainly
I would start at the big thread labeled in all caps UNIVERSAL FAQ, the FAQ part means frequently asked questions, its initials! kinda like PM stands for personal message and UE stands for urban exploration
wait dont wear your mouse hand out too much searching, I'll put the link right here for you http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=27619
when youre through reading go to the main forum, start a new thread about what you should explore and how to get there what kind of flashlight is best for ue (urban exploration)
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Thanks for the convenient link. I am pretty busy and mainly just want to see pictures of the supercollider. ALthough I thought the stuff about AstroWorld is neat. I drove around the supercollider site this past Friday. This time I drove down past the nearby dairy and I got the impression that the two skinny white water towers with fences around them have something to do with the tunnel. I guess they are some type of pumping stations. They are about 3 miles apart on opposite sides of the main supercollider facility and they seem to run above where the tunnel would be. I drove about another two miles further past the one by the dairy on the small winding paved road to find an area with an incompleted fence. The fenced area is a little over half finished and about the same size landwise and the same age as the other two water water pump station sites. It clearly looks like this is a place where the work literally just stopped back in 1993 because the fence poles are all in place but the chain link portion of the fence only goes halfway around. I know the supercollider is a very interesting place for all you UE folks. You all should utilize my services and "entrust" me to see your pictures. I live in Waxahachie and drive past the site twice a day going to and from Maypearl each day where I teach high school. Im not sure that I am willing to enter any building at this point, but I will gladly drive by something and walk around to verify or explain things that someone may want to know about without driving all the way to Waxahachie. In addition, I know several sources where I work who either worked directly on the project and are now science teachers or whose parents worked on the project. These are valuable and reliable sources of inside information about the supercollider because such people were there working on it and they know a lot about the local politics and rumors regarding the facility.
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Explorer Zero
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<Reply # 23 on 5/30/2006 12:51 PM >
| | | | I dont get it.
Youre begging us to tell you what we know but you want us to utilize your services?
Heres some clues for you
First a starting point you N 32° 21.333 W 096° 57.200 there is a marker there
Second that dairy (Fri-Tex?) wasnt always just a dairy check out the buildings behind (north east) end of the feeding area. Yes theres dairy cattle there but there was more.
[last edit 5/30/2006 1:19 PM by Explorer Zero - edited 1 times]
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bkblonghorn
Gender: Male
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 24 on 5/30/2006 2:05 PM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
I dont get it.
Youre begging us to tell you what we know but you want us to utilize your services?
Heres some clues for you
First a starting point you N 32° 21.333 W 096° 57.200 there is a marker there
Second that dairy (Fri-Tex?) wasnt always just a dairy check out the buildings behind (north east) end of the feeding area. Yes theres dairy cattle there but there was more.
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Well, actually I have mostly begged to see pictures. But I will admit that I would like to share information about the supercollider and provide a convenient service to drive around the facility to verify something or update folks about conditions or changes. Who else do you know that lives near the supercollider and drives past it twice a day? Besides, give me a break, I have only been into this whole supercollider thing for barely over one month. Prior to that I knew absolutely nothing about it except that it is somewhere in Waxahachie. Moreover, Ive been part of this UE site for less than a week so I dont know much about who knows what or what has already been discussed and hashed over. Even living in this area and knowing some locals who had a lot to do with the project, it is difficult to obtain facts about the supercollider. Clearly you know quite a bit about the facility with your dairy knowledge. Do you know if the two water towers are pumping stations for the tunnel? If so, why doesnt the government keep them working in order to drain the water out of the tunnel and stabilize it so that it doesnt collapse and compromise the ground above. The government put the tunnel there so they have a responsibility to either do what I mentioned above or fill the tunnel with gravel or something unless its eventual collapse somehow wont effect the ground 200 feet above.
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 25 on 5/30/2006 6:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by bkblonghorn
Well, actually I have mostly begged to see pictures. But I will admit that I would like to share information about the supercollider and provide a convenient service to drive around the facility to verify something or update folks about conditions or changes. |
thanks if I need your help exploring stuff I'll let you know
| Moreover, Ive been part of this UE site for less than a week so I dont know much about who knows what or what has already been discussed and hashed over. |
I know so whats your point?? I suggested politely you should read as much as possible but maybe demanding info from people you dont know works better for you.
| Even living in this area and knowing some locals who had a lot to do with the project, it is difficult to obtain facts about the supercollider. |
the Internet has thousands of pages devoted to it why should I re-type all that for you I type with two fingers
| Do you know if the two water towers are pumping stations for the tunnel? |
The BV-B SUD pumps are working why do you think theyre not?
If so, why doesnt the government keep them working in order to drain the water out of the tunnel and stabilize it so that it doesnt collapse and compromise the ground above. The government put the tunnel there so they have a responsibility to either do what I mentioned above or fill the tunnel with gravel or something unless its eventual collapse somehow wont effect the ground 200 feet above.
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do you have any idea what youre talking about?? Ill assume not so here I'll type this out for you but then youre on your own
The tunnels were flooded INTENTIONALLY to keep boneheads and kids from trying to get in, the portals have been sealed with rubble one of them has been paved over with a road and a sub-division, your only hope is to get inside the large building in the main campus (or rent a large track excavator and a dozer to clear what you dig out from some guys yard)
There is still debate on this forum as to who owns the tunnel easements under the property that was sold, I contend it defaults to the landowners until somebody shows me something other than gossip or rumor. Anyone can say anything on the Internet and you must believe it right? (I explored Cheyenne Mtn but its not all that cool so forget it 
Also (its not going to cave in and nobody is going back in to poke gravel backwards through 14 miles of tunnel, but you have discovered something and didnt even know it. All the property that was sold out there upon which houses were built, people moved in, but now they are moving out, why did so many move out, check the for sale and vacancies around there, apparently some people had second thoughts about living over a large cavern, the tunnel is only 15ft wide in most places but in others its much larger like 200ft where some of the equipment would have been installed. Imagine laying in bed at night thinking about a 200ft cavern below your house and not havin an 8th grade understanding geology? yep. I reckon them people got skittish and moved out yessir...Like swimming at the damn down to Lake Whitney, you know theres 90ft of water below where your legs is dangling but it only takes 6ft 2in to drown me!
I have been told that many people (like yourself) still believed it could cave in and cause a massive sinkhole or something, thats pretty unlikely its bored through solid rock in most places and lined with concrete or shotcrete and thats precisely why they picked this site to build it in the first place because of the stable geology (no the "government" doesnt take any responsibility for that now they have lawyers too you know)
The county owns part of the magnet lab the feds still own the other half,I think Joe Schmuckatelly and his neighbor John Q Sample own the land over the tunnels AND the tunnels now. Unless their deed says they only own down 198ft then its theirs and I dont believe mineral rights have any bearing on that. Its possible they arent allowed to drill a water well or something.
try exploring sometime, this website is about exploring some of the people here even explore, sometimes. thats it.
almost forgot, its for sale just $6.5 million
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Jonsered
 
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| |  |  | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 26 on 5/30/2006 7:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
I can see youre going to need lots of help probably should hook up with some of the real explorers around here im just an armchair explorer and hang out on this website mainly
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Bwaaahaaaaaa! I'm loving this! You've probably posted more locs than the rest of Texas put together. New dude isn't getting it, is he?
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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bkblonghorn
Gender: Male
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 27 on 5/30/2006 7:41 PM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
thanks if I need your help exploring stuff I'll let you know
I know so whats your point?? I suggested politely you should read as much as possible but maybe demanding info from people you dont know works better for you.
the Internet has thousands of pages devoted to it why should I re-type all that for you I type with two fingers
Ok, first I appreciate you taking the time to reply to the post I placed on this forum. Having said that, lighten up a little. Life is too short for you to be so uptight about the questions I ask. How can a person learn without asking questions no matter how remeadial the questions may seem. As I said this is all new to me. Would it kill you to be a little warmer in this forum by being more patient and not launching insults at someone who is simply attempting to have a friendly discussion about something of interest. In addition, I did read the rules you told me about and I thank you for that. I am trying to follow such rules, but if I inadverntantly bend them please excuse me as I am only a rookie. Im sorry you feel like I am demanding information. I certainly dont mean to do this; instead I only felt like I am asking questions. Also, I have searched extensively through the webpages you mentioned regarding the supercollider (that is where I read that the tunnels will eventually collapse), but I am still left with many questions--especially as concerns the current state of the facility because there is very little outside of the politics involved about the project since it closed.
The BV-B SUD pumps are working why do you think theyre not?
After reading your reply, it is clear that you have extensive knowledge about the supercollider and possible that you live near there. Again, forgive me if this question is stupid, imposing, demanding, or beneath you, but what are the BV-B SUD pumps that are still working? What are they for? What does BV-B SUD stand for.
The tunnels were flooded INTENTIONALLY to keep boneheads and kids from trying to get in, the portals have been sealed with rubble one of them has been paved over with a road and a sub-division, your only hope is to get inside the large building in the main campus (or rent a large track excavator and a dozer to clear what you dig out from some guys yard)
I heard from locals and from what I read on internet related articles that the tunnels flooded naturally because the pumps stopped working due to machine failure around the time the project was cancelled and they never had the money/funding to repair the machines to get them working again. Thus, from what I have gathered up until what I read from you the tunnels were not flooded intentionally. What is your source of information for this? I am not saying you are wrong (please spare me a public lashing on this forum), but why do you think this? You may very well be right I guess I am looking for some evidence that it was done on purpose.
almost forgot, its for sale just $6.5 million
I read through internet searching that Ellis County owns the supercollider property and is trying to sell it, but I did not know the price tag.
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Allva
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
I have my moments.
| | | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 28 on 5/30/2006 8:18 PM >
| | | | To 2Xploration: Well played, Sir! Well played!
[last edit 5/30/2006 8:22 PM by Allva - edited 2 times]
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 29 on 5/30/2006 10:28 PM >
| | | | if you got time to come on here and demand info (I still think youre a cop) you'd think it'd be easy enough to learn how to use this http://www.google.com/
theres your source deputy
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Allva
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
I have my moments.
| | | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 30 on 5/31/2006 1:44 AM >
| | | | I think he's doing the right thing...you got to nip it in the bud..
Life is hard, but it's harder when you're stupid. |
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mayhem154
Location: New Orleans
Gender: Male
Hello...
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 31 on 5/31/2006 4:19 AM >
| | | | There's a tunnel under there????? Holy Shit!!!! All this time, I thought it was just a bunch of ugly buildings in the middle of farmland. This changes everything, I'm going out there with a shovel and a pick axe tomorrow...
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bkblonghorn
Gender: Male
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 32 on 5/31/2006 1:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
if you got time to come on here and demand info (I still think youre a cop)
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I am flattered that you all think I am a cop. I did serve some time in the military, but sorry I am not a cop. As I have stated repeatedly, I am simply a teacher in the area who recently became very interested in the supercollider facility (and now increasingly UE overall as well). I dont know what it takes to convince you if this. The fact that you are so paranoid about police taking the time to come on here and look for you makes me wonder what else you are into besides simply exploring. Even if I were a cop, why would I just want to see pictures. Although, the information you provided in your responses is fascinating, I want to see recent pictures of the place and I want to know about its current condition. What could a cop do with that if he doesnt know who provided the pictures. As the most wanted man in the history of the world, Osoma Bin Ladin sends out pictures and videos all the time and we havent caught him. So what are you so worried about? Also, I have googled this subject quite a bit. However, there seem to be countless pages on the topic; many of which are redundant or consist of random boring details about government approval or lack there of.
Finally, you didnt answer my question,
What are the BV-B SUD pumps that are still working? What are they for (are they for the supercollider as I suspect or are they for some local farm)? What does BV-B SUD stand for.
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mayhem154
Location: New Orleans
Gender: Male
Hello...
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<Reply # 33 on 5/31/2006 2:45 PM >
| | | | BV = Buena Vista
Other B = Not sure
SUD = Special Utility District
Basically it's the water supply corp for the area SW of Waxahachie.
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Explorer Zero
| | | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 34 on 5/31/2006 5:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by mayhem154
BV = Buena Vista
Other B = Not sure
SUD = Special Utility District
Basically it's the water supply corp for the area SW of Waxahachie.
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See mayhem154 is still wet behind the ears and he could find this public info!
just kidding, mayhems cool we love him man 
so deputy heres your answer:
B = Bethel
Buena Vista and Bethel are both defunct communities, they no longer exist, ghost towns if you prefer they went away a long time ago.
The question remains why were these utilities so special? I have pointed you in the right direction Grasshopper, now you must find the true path to that which you seek.
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Armed Geoduck
Location: Dallas, Tx.
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 35 on 5/31/2006 6:42 PM >
| | | | Posted by bkblonghorn
I am simply a teacher in the area who recently became very interested in the supercollider facility
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That makes me want to tell you EVERYTHING I know...pshhh
/sarcasm
Tact is the ability to shut your mouth before someone else wants to. :)
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bkblonghorn
Gender: Male
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 36 on 5/31/2006 11:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by 2Xplorations
First a starting point you N 32° 21.333 W 096° 57.200 there is a marker there
Second that dairy (Fri-Tex?) wasnt always just a dairy check out the buildings behind (north east) end of the feeding area. Yes theres dairy cattle there but there was more.
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Ok, I drove by to check out your clues after work today. The only thing of interest I found at N 32 W 096 is what appears to be another water pump station. It is off Pioneer Ct and cannot be seen from 1446. It looks similar to the other ones but without the tall white water tower. It has a fence around it like the others, but it also has a white wooden sign that reads something about Cooper (or Collin I cant remember)water supply with a phone number stenciled on it. There was also a small building with a door and a window. Why did you send me there? Was this some type of test of credibility? Is it a pump station for the tunnel? I also looked at the north east part of the dairy. I couldnt see it very well from the road, but I could tell there was something there like you said. Dont know what it is though. I wonder if the owner of that dairy would allow a tour if one were to ask nicely enough?
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mayhem154
Location: New Orleans
Gender: Male
Hello...
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 37 on 6/1/2006 5:00 AM >
| | | | | The question remains why were these utilities so special? |
Hmmmm.... I wonder if the tunnel is being used as a big ass underground water storage facility? The SUD, in turn sells the water (at a premium, of course) to very people whose houses sit atop it. Very special, indeed....
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bkblonghorn
Gender: Male
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 38 on 6/1/2006 7:50 PM >
| | | | Ok 2x. You gave me something to check out and I did. So now I have a marker for you. Based on your knowledge of the area, I am betting you already know what is at this location. Anyway, there is another marker of interest at latitude 32 degrees, 19.5 minutes North, longitude 96 degrees, 55.7 minutes West. What do you know about that one? It is obvious something very interesting is there. At least I think it is much more interesting than that water station you sent me to.
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0U812
Location: Lubbock, TX
Gender: Female
Texploration
| | Re: Waxahachie supercollider
<Reply # 39 on 6/1/2006 7:58 PM >
| | | | Anytime you want to go snipe hunting let me know. I have some coordinates for you.
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It's other people. |
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