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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: resignation <Reply # 160 on 2/15/2006 7:45 PM >
| | | Posted by Detroit I am interested in Urban Exploration and photography. I am not interested in petty politics.
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I'm usually not interested in UE politics at all. I try to stay out of the petty disputes and ridiculous fueds that have cropped up from time to time. UER vs D5, UEA vs UER, the whole Australia thing, etc. However, I've been dissatisfied for some time about the direction UER has been heading, and Av's inability to see how certain behaviors can hurt the community of explorers that he's helped build here. Sometimes I spoke up about it, sometimes I simply agreed with others who advocated improvements to the community, but nothing really came of it. I've seen UER slowly change from a community of enthusiastic, responsible explorers into a B+E user guide for high school kids. Occasionally some of the older and wiser folks just dissappear, and everyone forgets about their contributions and advice. It's great that UER and exploration is so popular these days, but I feel like there are a lot of things which could be handled in a more mature and responsible manner. Part of the reason I quit was that I no longer feel empowered to help foster that responsibility.
I sincerely hope every one of them reconsiders thier resignations after they calm down.
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I don't think I ever got too worked up, it was more a feeling of resignation, like "whatever, this is the last straw". Now that I don't feel obligated to police forums and be a grammar nazi, I'll have more time to actually explore. Edit: grammar nazi'd. Leviathan, check out my sig. [last edit 2/15/2006 7:48 PM by Freak - edited 1 times]
Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137 |
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Detroit Moderator
Location: Ottawa /Gatineau /Montreal Gender: Male
4-aminophenol and 2-5% potassium hydroxide
| | | | Re: resignation <Reply # 161 on 2/15/2006 7:55 PM >
| | | Freak, I still hope that you and the others who have resigned realise that your input and contributions to UER are valuable. Just because we (as a group of moderators) cannot always force Av to see things from our point of view does not mean that we should all give up. UER is Av's website. I am really surprised how personally people take things. We are all adults right? I hope you come back.
The end of the beginning is the beginning of the end. |
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journeylady
Location: Kitchener Gender: Female
| | Re: resignation <Reply # 162 on 2/15/2006 8:03 PM >
| | | Posted by Leviathan 1) Realize that there are more important things in life than internet message boards. 2) Close your web browser. Fold your laptop, if you are using one, or shut off that monitor - those things waste a lot of energy. 3) Pack your gear bag. Check your flashlight batteries. Make sure you have fresh carties on your mask. 4) Go explore something.
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hehe I think my boss would have a problem with that. 'why are you leaving work early?' 'oh cause I was told to go explore....' ;]
But on a more serious note... I agree that we need to back up a step and realize that this site doesn't exist just because there's a site. It exists as a RESOURCE for Urban Exploration. It's a resource. just that. Make use of it or don't. And for those of you complaining that this discussion is pointless, dumb or should be stopped... Nobody is forcing you to read it. If you like UER for the database, use the database If you DON'T like UER for the database, don't use the database. Same logic applies to the forums. Like I said, Nobody is forcing you to be here. (Man Nobody... you sure are forceful!)
It's a tragedy. It's exactly like a greek tragedy. We should only be Greeks. |
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Ian This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: The County of Kings Gender: Male
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water, and stupid men."
| | Re: resignation <Reply # 163 on 2/15/2006 8:08 PM >
| | | Posted by journeylady It's a resource. just that. Make use of it or don't. And for those of you complaining that this discussion is pointless, dumb or should be stopped... Nobody is forcing you to read it. |
And on that note, I'm finally awake and caffeinated, and it's time to go play around at an asylum. [last edit 2/15/2006 8:09 PM by Ian - edited 1 times]
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Freak
Location: Usually Alaska, now MSP. Gender: Male
Hypocrite
| | | Re: resignation <Reply # 164 on 2/15/2006 8:15 PM >
| | | Posted by Detroit UER is Av's website. I am really surprised how personally people take things. We are all adults right? I hope you come back.
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It's not personal, it's not about power over Av (at least not for me, can't speak for everyone). Maybe if I restate myself: I feel uncomfortable with some of the administrative activities of this site. Since I can't do anything about it, I no longer want to be a party to it. Simple as that.
I'm going to go play outside now. [last edit 2/15/2006 8:15 PM by Freak - edited 1 times]
Turn off the internet and go play outside. http://spamusement...hp/comics/view/137 |
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nobody
Location: VANCOUVER B.C. Gender: Male
5:55 is a state of mind
| | Re: resignation <Reply # 165 on 2/15/2006 8:22 PM >
| | | hehe I think my boss would have a problem with that. 'why are you leaving work early?' oh cause I was told to go explore....' ;] |
Same
(Man Nobody... you sure are forceful!) |
Ain't it the truth. N. [last edit 2/15/2006 8:24 PM by nobody - edited 1 times]
Operating Entirely With Bad Intentions |
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0U812
Location: Lubbock, TX Gender: Female
Texploration
| | Re: resignation <Reply # 166 on 2/15/2006 8:23 PM >
| | | Posted by nobody
Ain't it the truth. N.
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Maybe you should be a mod.
I figured out what's wrong with life: It's other people. |
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junkyard
Location: LaCrosse, WI Gender: Male
Strategic Beer Command where the metal hits the meat.
| | | Re: resignation <Reply # 167 on 2/15/2006 11:07 PM >
| | | I keep forgetting that everyone outside the TC area wears a mask......We love the fresh smell of poop. Plop!
I drink gasoline for breakfeast and beer for dinner! Any problem can be licked with a case of beer and a few sticks of dynamite. Strategic Beer Command ruling the desert since 1995 http://www.strategic-beer-command.com |
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'Dukes Noble Donor
Gender: Male
At least someone llikes me
| | | Re: resignation <Reply # 168 on 2/16/2006 10:50 AM >
| | | Posted by Leviathan Here's what I want everyone out there reading this topic to do: 1) Realize that there are more important things in life than internet message boards.
| True, but this one is better than Days of our Lives.
2) Close your web browser. Fold your laptop, if you are using one, or shut off that monitor - those things waste a lot of energy. 3) Pack your gear bag. Check your flashlight batteries. Make sure you have fresh carties on your mask.
| Mask? Now THAT is being dramatic!
4) Go explore something. In the end, that's what we're all here for, right? Right???
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But you just told people to go explore and not look at a website! Let's face it, UER is simply high drama entertainment. Even the LDB in the right Province/ state is just a grand comedic sounding board. "Giveaway to locations" my ass, it's hysterical! Sorry to burst your bubble for any newish person reading this but you won't learn any secret tricks here, there are none, but you get to talk to a lot of like minded people; and as such it is a society, and with a society comes a ton of drama. Now let's sit back and relax and have a nice warm glass of .................................................................................. NInja tea. [last edit 2/16/2006 10:52 AM by 'Dukes - edited 1 times]
I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. |
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The_Man_in_Black
Location: Near Buffalo Gender: Male
Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist..
| | Re: resignation <Reply # 169 on 2/16/2006 1:13 PM >
| | | That tea is un-ethical.
(runs away laughing)
I miss ednothing.. and Glass.. and Seicer.. and Jester.. and Chainsaw.. and THD.. and Mike D.. and Crossfire.. and Noah Vale.. and Maynard.. and pixie.. and Mr. Yuk.. and Worm Wirsbo.. and Miss_Informed... and dev.. Rest In Peace, dev. |
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desmet
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
| | | | Re: resignation <Reply # 170 on 2/16/2006 2:23 PM >
| | | New here so don't know/don't care much about the drama. All I'll say is this though... 1.) I think the ship has sailed on keeping this hobby on the DL, though I also think that interest in actually going to these locations is relatively limited outside of the under 18 crowd. 2.) This site is valuable if for no other reason than for photography and photography critique. For architectural photographers who like old abandoned buildings, this site is unbelievably valuable. I think it's great for giving you ideas in terms of where to look for locations, a few "starter" locations, and how to go about exploring them, but for me the real value is in photo critique and just generally seeing other photographers' work who have an interest in the same subject. The site is "worth it" on that point alone. [last edit 2/16/2006 2:25 PM by desmet - edited 1 times]
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TurboZutek King Dick
Location: Scotland Gender: Male
Giant octo-penised rapephant
| | | | Re: resignation <Reply # 171 on 2/16/2006 5:51 PM >
| | | //Looks around... Ooooohhhh right! ///Walks off.
We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. |
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Avatar-X Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: resignation <Reply # 173 on 2/16/2006 8:41 PM >
| | | Alright, this isn't going anywhere anymore. Locked. -av
huskies - such fluff. |
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