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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 20 on 2/26/2008 9:10 AM >
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Posted by FyRePhReAk
I judge the quality of workmanship by the majority of its product, not the minority.


Then your the type of guy to pass up a free goldmine because there's more dirt in the soil than gold then, hey?

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 21 on 2/26/2008 10:48 AM >
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That's a terrible analogy, but I'll roll with it. At what point of the dirt-to-usable ore ratio does it become uneconomical to maintain the mine?


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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 22 on 2/26/2008 12:25 PM >
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Posted by FyRePhReAk
That's a terrible analogy, but I'll roll with it. At what point of the dirt-to-usable ore ratio does it become uneconomical to maintain the mine?



Oh shit diminishing returns up in this biatch

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 23 on 2/26/2008 4:52 PM >
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Posted by FyRePhReAk
That's a terrible analogy, but I'll roll with it. At what point of the dirt-to-usable ore ratio does it become uneconomical to maintain the mine?



I had to use an analogy matched in sillyness to your original statement (sorry, new European Regulations).

As for the mine (if we must discuss it) I would guess that as it's FREE, then as long as you can extract a single gram of gold from it your well up on the deal, hey?

Judging the quality of a specific thing by calculating the sum of its downsides isn't always the best approach; gotta be carefull to not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Yes, there ARE some TEHORBS photos to be found here, but there are also some shots that make your jaw drop and your bowels evacuate with how GOOD they are.

Perhaps photo's like that (good) will be selected, as the thread poster stated when he discussed selection criteria in the beginning?

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 24 on 2/26/2008 7:01 PM >
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Can we stop going off topic? First porn now mining gold... We're supposed to be talking about publishing a book...

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 25 on 2/26/2008 9:00 PM >
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how about a uer porno inside an abandoned mine?

just kidding. sorta.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 26 on 2/26/2008 10:12 PM >
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Posted by u25680
how about a uer porno inside an abandoned mine?



Shafts in Shafts I think there's a market there.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 27 on 2/26/2008 10:16 PM >
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Doesn't a member have a photo book out? Name begins w/"S," but other than that I forget who it was. In fact, name may begin w/"M" for all I know. Point is, on your left there's a link to a member's photo book. Sigma! It's on my screen right now.
http://www.cydonia...hp?template=prints

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 28 on 2/26/2008 10:34 PM >
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Posted by SaraBellum


Shafts in Shafts I think there's a market there.


thats a good working title. great minds think alike.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 29 on 2/26/2008 11:31 PM >
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Posted by SaraBellum


Shafts in Shafts I think there's a market there.


Just be careful the shafts in shafts belong to miners, not minors. ;-p



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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 30 on 2/27/2008 12:38 AM >
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Id consider contributing but it would have to be legitimate good work and not the old "lets include everyone who posts here and tell them they're worthy of being in the book even though their stuff is fucking terrible" deal.

I dont mean to big myself up (lol) but what Im talking about is a quality product with contributors who actually care about their output. Nothing blurry or out of focus or with shadow/highlight burning my retinas...no bad HDR, no bad film scans, no bad composition...no orbzzzzzz, no ghost captures.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 31 on 2/27/2008 12:43 AM >
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Posted by metawaffle
If you're going to do this, just make sure you have an editor who can take the photos (and contextual text), and organise it into a coherent whole. Take a look at Troy Paiva's (first) book, for example.


Aw shucks, thanks.

The above statement is correct though. If you are just doing a project for the people in it to enjoy a couple of copies for their friends and family, that's one thing, but if you are trying to get it published by a real publisher, then yes, you have to have a theme. And writing.

I personally think the time is extremely ripe for "An overview of the different types of UE locations" project with 100 images by 25 different photographers and a bitchen essay by some up and coming young Lester Bangs of UE . . . but even if you could organize a party like that and keep it from melting down in an explosion of fragile and dominating artistic egos, and THEN convincing a reputable publisher that it's viable to sell 15k copies . . . fuhgedaboutit.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 32 on 2/27/2008 3:24 AM >
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Posted by LostAmerica
I personally think the time is extremely ripe for "An overview of the different types of UE locations" project with 100 images by 25 different photographers and a bitchen essay by some up and coming young Lester Bangs of UE . . . but even if you could organize a party like that and keep it from melting down in an explosion of fragile and dominating artistic egos, and THEN convincing a reputable publisher that it's viable to sell 15k copies . . . fuhgedaboutit.


In my humble opinion, it's that sort of essay content that'd be required for a 'real book'. Otherwise, you might as well just have an album full of six-by-fours.


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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 33 on 2/27/2008 5:11 AM >
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Posted by metawaffle


In my humble opinion, it's that sort of essay content that'd be required for a 'real book'. Otherwise, you might as well just have an album full of six-by-fours.



Four by sixes...

And that's what I'm suggesting.. essentially nothing but a photo album, I'm not looking to WRITE a book, I'm not looking to get it published by some reputable publisher, if you read the main post I'm just trying to learn self-publishing techniques.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 34 on 2/27/2008 5:20 AM >
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Posted by desmet
Id consider contributing but it would have to be legitimate good work and not the old "lets include everyone who posts here and tell them they're worthy of being in the book even though their stuff is fucking terrible" deal.

I dont mean to big myself up (lol) but what Im talking about is a quality product with contributors who actually care about their output. Nothing blurry or out of focus or with shadow/highlight burning my retinas...no bad HDR, no bad film scans, no bad composition...no orbzzzzzz, no ghost captures.



True, maybe we can have a vote on pictures that'll go in the book, so we can all agree on who's pictures are good enough. That way it won't be just one person governing style points.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 35 on 2/27/2008 8:50 AM >
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So wait, basically, if I understand it right from your descriptions of why your doing this and how your going to do it;

you want help with your scrapbook?

Chris...

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 36 on 2/27/2008 12:56 PM >
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Self-publishing can be a way to have a distributable book made.

It requires some inital capital, decent writing and editing skills, and above all a huge amount of organisation.

Looked into it once, the cheapest decent sized (read: 100+ pages), with a decent cover and binding came out to approximately 30$/american a copy, until you started ordering in quantities exceeding 200, then it got fractionally cheaper per copy as the number of copies went up.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 37 on 2/27/2008 12:59 PM >
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and for a 100+ page hardcover professionally printed/bound book.. $30 is pretty damn cheap.

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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 38 on 2/27/2008 1:21 PM >
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Why not self publish it as a free PDF file (e-book) and spread it around the torrent sites? That would make a nice project and wouldn't cost much. If the UER forum could pull of such a trick, it would earn a lot of "respect credits"

But the book would need some good text, not just pictures. As you'll probably know I've bored you with calls for good short trip reports. No one volunteered. Below are two examples that I dug up and liked:

1) Dsankt's Niagara falls report

http://www.sleepyc...26aaf39b6d51555e53

For the daring, technique and first class location.

2) Abandonments in Seoul

http://www.daehanm...tal/20080206c.html

For the total weirdness and sadness of the environment.

3) Glass factory

http://www.reumerm...cristallerie2.html

For the beauty of the photographs, but here it's a pity that there's no story to go with the pictures!

It could be organized relatively easy by everyone posting his favorite story + pictures and then voting. The technical problem would be how to vote reliably (one person one vote).

So if we skip the "paper" part of the book this looks like a doable project, but how to avoid the flame wars





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Re: UER Photo Book
<Reply # 39 on 2/27/2008 1:29 PM >
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Posted by FerretWithASpork
and for a 100+ page hardcover professionally printed/bound book.. $30 is pretty damn cheap.


that's the price of the book itself, factor in distribution costs of an item that's not really light.

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