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UER Forum > UE Photography > The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread (Viewed 171836 times)
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Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
< Reply # 620 on 3/27/2014 9:39 PM >
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An XS (with a working autofocus) would do you fine to get started.

I used an XSi for many years.

If you're willing to go used, you can find a lot in your price range.

http://www.bhphoto...rt&mnp=150&mxp=350

It's silly, but sometimes it's true that "The best camera is the one in your hands" because until it's in your hands, there's nothing. Don't worry about "the best" don't worry about what you can't afford, just pick something up (but make sure it isn't shit) and start shooting and working on your technique. Build skill (and gear) as you go and as you are able.



I'm glad you brought up that quote.. It's one of the greats.. What it comes down to is that you have to get out there and shoot.. When a shot doesn't work out like you thought it would try to figure out why.. Was it you? Was it the camera?

Once you figure out what went wrong you can figure out how better to make your camera do what you intended..

I think only then you should think about equipment upgrades.. You have to be honest with yourself.. Is the image you are trying to capture beyond your equipment.. or beyond your ability.

The good news is.. It's a lot cheaper to expand your own ability.

I shoot with the Nikon D800.. For what I do.. it's damn near perfect. BUT you DON'T have to have a 3k body to show a decent result..!

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I shot this while on vacation in Amsterdam with a $60 Kodak point & shoot. When you know what to tell a camera to do.. & how to tell it.. you can achieve great results!





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Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
< Reply # 621 on 3/28/2014 4:55 AM >
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I'm glad you brought up that quote.. It's one of the greats.. What it comes down to is that you have to get out there and shoot.. When a shot doesn't work out like you thought it would try to figure out why.. Was it you? Was it the camera?

Once you figure out what went wrong you can figure out how better to make your camera do what you intended..

I think only then you should think about equipment upgrades.. You have to be honest with yourself.. Is the image you are trying to capture beyond your equipment.. or beyond your ability.

The good news is.. It's a lot cheaper to expand your own ability.

I shoot with the Nikon D800.. For what I do.. it's damn near perfect. BUT you DON'T have to have a 3k body to show a decent result..!

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I shot this while on vacation in Amsterdam with a $60 Kodak point & shoot. When you know what to tell a camera to do.. & how to tell it.. you can achieve great results!




D800...*drools*

I couldn't agree more. That sums everything up perfectly. Buy what you can afford, and once you outgrow what you have, then look into upgrading. When looking to upgrade, look for cameras that will fit your needs. For the longest time I shot on a Canon Powershot A550 and loved it! I still own it by the way. I wanted to get more into photography though so I bought a Canon Rebel t3 DSLR. Loved it too. Photo quality was top notch and I had no complaints. I just recently upgraded to a Nikon D7000. Why? Because I have become much more involved and knowledgeable in photography and outgrew what the t3 offered. Do the photos from the D7000 look 4 times better because it is a 4 times more expensive camera? Depends on if I make the shot or not. It all depends on your ability and how you use your camera.

For example, can you tell which camera took which shot without looking at the EXIF data?
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Didn't think so.
(hint, 1 was with my D7000, 2 was with my t3)

Knowing how to edit photos with an editing program can help you out a lot too. Photoscape is a good free photo editing program that is simple to use yet has a ton of advanced features for those who know what they are doing.
For example:
This:


To this:


That's my two cents worth to add on.

And just to show the great quality of the nearly ancient Canon Powershot A550(which you can find used online for $20-30, in case you are looking for a good used camera):




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< Reply # 622 on 4/22/2014 3:56 AM >
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I am thinking of ordering a Nikon D5200. Does anybody have experience with this camera and could give me some reviews?




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Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
< Reply # 623 on 4/22/2014 5:02 AM >
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I am thinking of ordering a Nikon D5200. Does anybody have experience with this camera and could give me some reviews?


I don't have experience with the camera but I have a lot of experience its cousins, the D5100 and D7000. The D5200 is pretty much both those cameras merged into one body with a few extras. I would personally recommend getting the D7000 if you can afford it (as it is a semi-pro body, better button layout, a little more expensive and will allow you to grow for a long time). If you can't afford the D7000, then it would be hard to beat the D5200.




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< Reply # 624 on 5/5/2014 3:32 PM >
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Hasselblad H5D-50c, affordable right?




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I know I should have read through the entire thread before mentioning this but most modern camera bodies don't really matter when it comes down to it. They all perform fairly equally--particularly consumer level DSLR's. It comes down to comfort. If you can actually get your hands on some of the models mentioned and look at the dial and menu layout and see what is most comfortable for you, then that's the right camera for you.

After typing all that, the six most important things for better photography is composition, lighting, practice, a tripod, knowing your camera and, finally and more importantly, good lenses.

You can have the best, most expensive camera in the world but if you blew your money on the camera and didn't consider lenses, you've just wasted a bunch of money, IMO. If you're smart in your lens investments, they'll keep up with your body growth.

I just upgraded to a (used) Nikon D7000 from a D5100 because it had a few more things that I was looking for... (slightly) better low-light capability, better button layout, two card slots and better battery management (I'm guessing because it doesn't have the flip out screen, so you don't use Live View as much). I shot all day yesterday and only used a 1/4 of the battery. The D5100 I would have used two batteries at least.

But when I purchased the D5100, when I could, I made sure to invest in good lenses for it (which I'm still using for the D7000). However, I wasn't smart in my lens investment when I started out because, when and if I decide to go full-frame, if I stick with Nikon, I'll only have one useable lens.

Also, don't be afraid to buy last years' model. As long as you're buying from a reputable dealer (Adorama, B&H and KEH), you'll be fine and save money for the more important lenses.




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Re: The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
< Reply # 626 on 5/30/2014 9:27 PM >
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They all perform fairly equally--particularly consumer level DSLR's...
Also, don't be afraid to buy last years' model. As long as you're buying from a reputable dealer (Adorama, B&H and KEH), you'll be fine and save money for the more important lenses.


Definitely true! Most entry-level DSLRs are roughly the same, aside from megapixels, which isn't necessarily a good thing on those tiny sensors (more megapixels usually creates more noise in low light because of the lack of space for the pixels). I have a D7000 and I love it! Except for the lack of full frame... If anyone is selling a D800....



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Most definetly going to get a nikon d3100, only problem is that it has no mic input, anyone know of anything that might have a mic input while still being around the same price/quality of the d3100?




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Most definetly going to get a nikon d3100, only problem is that it has no mic input, anyone know of anything that might have a mic input while still being around the same price/quality of the d3100?


The d3200 has an external mic input. You might be able to pick up a used one for the same price or a little less than a new d3100




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The d3200 has an external mic input. You might be able to pick up a used one for the same price or a little less than a new d3100


Thanks, I looked into that and the d3200 is a bit more expensive, but it also has a nicer screen, so I think it's worth it.




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Thanks, I looked into that and the d3200 is a bit more expensive, but it also has a nicer screen, so I think it's worth it.


Looking on ebay, prices for the D5100 and D3200 were the same (~350-400 w/ kit lens), and the D5100 is definitely a better buy--regardless of megapixels.

EDIT: *it will be a better buy if you're planning on doing a lot of videography, which sounds like you will since you want a mic input.



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< Reply # 631 on 6/3/2014 12:38 AM >
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Looking on ebay, prices for the D5100 and D3200 were the same (~350-400 w/ kit lens), and the D5100 is definitely a better buy--regardless of megapixels.

EDIT: *it will be a better buy if you're planning on doing a lot of videography, which sounds like you will since you want a mic input.


thanks, I'm trying to keep the price lower than 350 and that certainly looks like a good option as well.




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< Reply # 632 on 6/4/2014 12:29 AM >
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thanks, I'm trying to keep the price lower than 350 and that certainly looks like a good option as well.


no problem, if you think you'll be doing a lot of work/make photography/videography a long term thing, even as a hobby, I think the investment is worth it. When I first got my camera I was thinking about getting a D5100, but I'm glad I went a little higher because within a few months the 5100 wouldn't have met my needs. Now I'm sitting here a year later, with some work in a gallery, and I haven't needed to upgrade anything major, so the investment definitely paid off--for me. (I have a D7000.) It really just depends on what you'll be doing and how far you plan on going with it.




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I use a Nikon D3100 and the girlfriend has a Canon rebel xs....They both work pretty good. We both use the manual focus and picked them up used for 200-300 each on ebay. Obviously we will upgrade but they work well.




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I have a Canon 70D with 18-135 STM, Rokinon fisheye 3.5 which is great for interior shots, 28mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.8. You can get a cheap used DSLR and a couple used wide lenses like the Rokinon lenses. They are cheap and great quality. They have the fisheye, 14mm... Here are some fisheye shots.1.


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I'm looking to finally get a dslr camera. How important is megapixels compared to other features? I would mainly like to take better photos in the day, as well as some night photos. I am assuming that a programmable shutter would be needed for long exposure night shots. I was hoping to get a cannon rebel XT, but the MP issue was confusing to me. It seemed that more megapixels would be better, but someone in this thread claimed that consumer DSLR cameras have an issue with noise generated by the bigger light sensors.

Also, any choices for good all around lenses?

Thanks!




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As long as you have 8 megapixels you should be fine. The most important part of having an advanced camera is the control you have so just having something that feels right to use is the most important in my opinion.




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The XT is a great camera to start. I started with the T1i, which might be around the same price range, possibly a little more. I bought my girlfriend an XT and it takes wonderful shots.




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Yeah, I got an Olympus e500 DSLR with a kit lens and 8 gig flash card from KEH. It was 139.00 shipped. I already have a tripod, so I can use that for now. I probably should have gone with the Rebel, but the Olympus had less expensive lenses, as well as an 8 minute min shutter speed and some other cool random features. Since long shutter times are murder on cameras, I will not be using it very much. But, I have access to an aircraft museum, and I plan on doing some offset lighting and high exposure night shots when my skills catch up to my ambitions.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!




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Looking for a medium format camera... Film camera. I'm on budget.

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