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So I have been using a Sony Cybershot T-100 and a Canon S5 IS for about the last two years between the two for my exploring, and I am finally getting to where just having pictures despite quality isn't enough for me! I want pictures that arn't grainy, that I didn't have to take six times to get a good clear one, or that look good on the 2 inch LCD screen, but when I get home I find are blurryish or just plain not that well. I'm tired of point and shoot at 8 mega pixels damn it! So i've decided to take it up a notch. I was wondering if anyone had any pointers, tips, personal stories of trial and error, encouragement, discouragement, anything.




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So I have been using a Sony Cybershot T-100 and a Canon S5 IS for about the last two years between the two for my exploring, and I am finally getting to where just having pictures despite quality isn't enough for me! I want pictures that arn't grainy, that I didn't have to take six times to get a good clear one, or that look good on the 2 inch LCD screen, but when I get home I find are blurryish or just plain not that well. I'm tired of point and shoot at 8 mega pixels damn it! So i've decided to take it up a notch. I was wondering if anyone had any pointers, tips, personal stories of trial and error, encouragement, discouragement, anything.


My experience was similar, though on a shorter time-frame. After about three trips with a friend's point-and-shoot (much lower quality than yours), I decided that I wanted to be able to take decent photos. I researched quite a bit and found that my problems at the time were about equal parts skill and equipment, so I bought a used entry-level DSLR with a kit lens, read a bit online, memorized the guide-book for that camera, and started taking exponentially better pictures.

I'm not sure how much you know about photography in general (lord knows I'm no expert), but the best, most concise piece I've found on the technical aspects of photography is Bernie's Better Beginner's Guide to Photography for Computer Geeks Who Want to be Digital Artists.

As for the gear- I don't know about the higher-end point-and-shoots like the S5 IS, but as I understand it, there's a significant difference interface, quality, and control between PAS and DSLR. I'd recommend upgrading to an entry level one (the Nikon D40 or Cannon equivalent, perhaps) and seeing where tat takes you.




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The Official "What camera to buy?" Thread
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What the hell is this?

Since this comes up about once every 3 days, from now on new threads about camera recommendations will be merged into here. Hopefully this will encourage people to read through the existing recommendations instead of posting a brand new shiny thread.

The original thread is here: http://www.uer.ca/...d=20001&currpage=1 and this one serves as an updated version, with advice relating to more current models of camera.




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DSLR Catechism

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What the hell is this?

Since this comes up about once every 3 days, from now on new threads about camera recommendations will be merged into here. Hopefully this will encourage people to read through the existing recommendations instead of posting a brand new shiny thread.

The original thread is here: http://www.uer.ca/...d=20001&currpage=1 and this one serves as an updated version, with advice relating to more current models of camera.


Ah man I apologize. I didn't do any searching really, just on a couple pages on the forum. I should have used that nifty search function. Don't hate me?




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DSLR Catechism

Best advice ever.


This was awesome.




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Ah man I apologize. I didn't do any searching really, just on a couple pages on the forum. I should have used that nifty search function. Don't hate me?


Nah it's alright matey, we just merge the questions together into this thread every now and again to ensure you get a good answer.

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Being a dedicated Pentaxian, I would love to buy this, but will have to wait until it comes down in price a little.

Pentax reveals 40MP DSLR monster, the 645D

Mar. 10, 2010 By: John Brownlee



Pentax’s latest medium-format DSLR is an absolute monster. Called the 645D, it packs 40 Megapixel onto its thirty three millimeter by forty four millimeter sensor.

Got that? Forty megapixels. That’s completely ridiculous, even for a DSLR, and usually I’d argue that’s way too many megapixels to take good pictures even with a great camera… by the 64D’s sensor is actually significantly larger than the average 35mm 36 x 24 x 2mm sensor. It might just be able to handle it.

The Pentax 645D is aimed mostly at photographers working within a studio, so most of the features are pretty standard, but there are some interesting ones, like built-in HDR. The Pentax 645D also uses SD cards in a dual-slot configuration over the ubiquitous Compact Flash. There’s also an in-camera HDR mode that will combine three separate images into one.

There’s also some impressive exposure modes to boast of. There’s the usual shutter and aperture-priority modes, but there’s also a sensitivity-priority mode, which automatically adjusts the ISO according to the shutter and aperture settings you pick.

As far as chassis construction is concerned, the Pentax 645D looks a lot like the 645: it’s essentially a black cube with a ergonomic handle, with top and rear screens with a tempered glass covers and a large viewfinder


that covers 89% of the images. The body even has dust reduction. But don’t expect this much camera to come cheap: when it comes out in Japan in May, it’ll start at $10,000.

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Being a dedicated Pentaxian, I would love to buy this, but will have to wait until it comes down in price a little.

Pentax reveals 40MP DSLR monster, the 645D



Yeah, I was reading about this last night at Chapters. Apparently Leica and Hasselblad have these but they cost over $20,000.





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But.. because it's Pentax, it's the "APS-C" body of the medium format arena.



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So, how do I know when a camera is obsolete? I see lots of cameras on craigslist in my area for around 200-300, which is my range, but I can't tell what good they are because reviews seem to be so dated. It seems a 10D or a rebel w/lens for under 300 is market price for entry level, but is this a good price for a worthwhile camera, or would I quickly discover that I would have been better off saving the money and getting something more expensive later on?




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So, how do I know when a camera is obsolete? I see lots of cameras on craigslist in my area for around 200-300, which is my range, but I can't tell what good they are because reviews seem to be so dated. It seems a 10D or a rebel w/lens for under 300 is market price for entry level, but is this a good price for a worthwhile camera, or would I quickly discover that I would have been better off saving the money and getting something more expensive later on?


Dig for comparisons. AF, noise, and white balance can be 'dated.' The lens sometimes is.




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Dig for comparisons. AF, noise, and white balance can be 'dated.' The lens sometimes is.


And ask for shutter actuations, cause a shutter can fatigue and that's just bad news all around.

Also, ask for an example of the camera shooting in pure black or pure white circumstances. Will give you an idea of what condition the sensor is in and if you have any dead pixels to deal with.

Also I know it's been brought up before, but B&H is pretty rigid with their graded gauge for used equipment:
http://www.bhphoto.../2891/N/4294182648

As for would you tire of it- I started off with a Canon Rebel XT and anything better would have been wasted on me for a few years. It was a great little workhorse, and I slowly upgraded my lenses before I did my body, and then it was time for a new tripod. I now play with a Canon 1DS and 5D and tip my hat to having been able to afford a less awesome body to get me out there and shooting/learning faster. You can always upgrade piecemeal with dSLRs.




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Dig for comparisons. AF, noise, and white balance can be 'dated.' The lens sometimes is.


How do you mean, dated? Good call on the lens though, I noticed the one I had my eye on was much older than the camera it came with when I looked it up, probably been through some wear and tear.

Thanks for the advice guys. I think I will start low-end after all, its not as if I know what I'm doing enough (read: at all) to get my money's worth out of an $800 body just yet. The actuations is something I had never heard of, very glad to know to ask that question now!




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How do you mean, dated?


Old AF systems suck, and sometimes white balance options are improved (made more accurate?)




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Good to know.
Manual focus would probably be preferable in most instances anyways just so you can get exactly the shot you want, no?




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Good to know.
Manual focus would probably be preferable in most instances anyways just so you can get exactly the shot you want, no?


Modern autofocus can be quite reliable, and will make shooting moving objects much easier. Most lenses allow for switching to manual focus as well, if that's your thing.




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Right on.
I'm usually trying to capture still subjects, so I didn't think of that, but I'm glad you mentioned it, that's something to consider.




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Auto focus can be very hit and miss in low light / totally dark. At that point you pat yourself on the back for buying a camera which is easy to manually focus.

When I upgraded from my Nikon D50 to Canon 450D with LiveView, it made near darkness manual focussing ten times easier and I was well happy!

So if you do a lot of low light / dark stuff it's something to think about.

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