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| 1 2 3 | UER Forum > UE Main > This is happening way too often... I have to vent! (Viewed 9385 times) |
Benched_it
Location: Central NC Gender: Male Total Likes: 172 likes
| | | This is happening way too often... I have to vent! < on 11/11/2018 10:47 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Hello all! This is not directed at anyone on here, but rather a general statement FWIW. While I may not post on here as much as I used to, I still explore when I get the chance. I was uploading a video to Youtube recently and was shocked to see how many urbex videos not only showed the outside of the buildings, but also the POE and even worse they had the names and locations in the title! This is unacceptable and not cool at all. This is why some of the best explores we've enjoyed are now trashed and destroyed to the point they can't be enjoyed by others. When people do an urbex video, showing the outside isn't necessary I don't think. It can be done but take the time to be careful what you show. They sure don't need to show the POE and damn sure don't need to be naming it AND telling where it's at! What IF a place you explored suddenly burned down after you were there? The cops start looking around Youtube, Flickr, etc and what do they see? You were there recently? Granted you didn't do it but it could lead to a big hassle that could have been prevented by not giving out so much information. Speaking of Flickr, I have found many locations just by looking at someone's pics and their EXIF data. I'll look at the pic I'm interested in, then start looking at their other pics with the same date and by checking their EXIF data and looking at the times they were taken I can trace their route everywhere they went. My Flickr urbex albums usually have a three letter title that only I know what it means. The EXIF data is hidden and I always change the date. It may say "taken sometime in 2018" but in reality it could have been back in 2013. I take the time to clone out anything that could reveal what it is or where it was in my pics. There was a great explore in South Carolina that everyone knows about. Thanks to all the info given out, not only is it being watched by the cops now, it's totally trashed to the point I'll never waste my time there again. Thankfully I got it back in the day when it was a great explore and nice photographs came out of it. I love watching a good urbex video, I just want people to start using their heads and THINK about the info they might be giving out. It's not that hard. Thanks for your time...
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| Aran
Location: Kansas City Gender: Male Total Likes: 1848 likes
Huh. I guess covid made me a trendsetter.
| | | Re: This is happening way too often... I have to vent! < Reply # 14 on 11/13/2018 9:51 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Lola AB Apparently, there was some type of an urban exploration "convention" in France this past weekend. I follow a guy named freed_o_gram who was posting stories about being a guest speaker. 2x..I think you're right. It's becoming more main stream all the time.
| I think it's mostly because of just how easily information is disseminated online these days. Back when urbex as we know now it first gained momentum, the internet wasn't near as ubiquitous as it is today, and both information and urbex communities were harder to find. Simply put, technology lowered the barrier of entry to urban exploration. Before, you needed to invest in a good camera, a flashlight, and some basic gear at the very least. Nowadays cameras and flashlights are standard features on smartphones, meaning everyone has the basic gear to start exploring- and since the internet is more ubiquitous than ever before, it's easier to learn about urbex too. All you got to do is join a local urbex group next time you're on Facebook, or follow a few accounts on Instagram and suddenly you're part of a "community" with no vetting process, no established rules, and no enforcement. Of course the more serious explorers (like the ones that tend to frequent UER) still invest in actual equipment (cameras, actual flashlights, respirators, etc), and as such are more willing to have the patience to go through UER's three month long vetting process. For your average person who saw an abandoned building on their way to work and wants some quick upvotes, however, that vetting period scares them off. Lower the barrier of entry and increase the public exposure, and of course more people who don't take urbex seriously will join. And when they find the vetting period of UER too burdensome (even though it's what keeps this site good) they make their own communities with fewer rules and no enforcement. That's what's at the heart of this influx.
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| "Sorry, I didn't know I'm not supposed to be here," he said, knowing full well he wasn't supposed to be there. |
| NotBatman
Location: MSP Gender: Male Total Likes: 443 likes
Secret Cult Member
| | | Re: This is happening way too often... I have to vent! < Reply # 16 on 11/13/2018 2:01 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by Aran Simply put, technology lowered the barrier of entry to urban exploration. Before, you needed to invest in a good camera, a flashlight, and some basic gear at the very least.
| Alright, I'm gonna be That Guy: No one needs a camera to explore. When we were kids, in the 80's, we just had shitty flashlights (and candy bars) and a bike to travel, and we'd spend hours in the storm drains and caves, once we found them. Occasionally we'd come back with cheap 550 cord to do something sketchy. It wasn't until I found UER that it even ocurred to me that bringing a camera could be fun. I know tons of people that actively explore and don't bother with the photography side of it at all. But yeah, in the end it's people sharing things online and driving the exposure that's killing the preservation of good sites for recreational trespassing. Somebody shows a cool thing, something that's usually free and usually out of the way enough that you can hang out and get drunk/stoned with your friends, and yeah... others will want to do that too. Some people are worse at obfuscating location information, some people just don't care, but it's not just Instafame McGee that's causing the problem, it's everyone who shares things with anyone they don't know as well as they think, online especially, but even in person sometimes. The bottom line is every location is ephemeral. Enjoy it while it's there, but don't count on it to stay. Go find the next thing and stop going back to the same places all the time.
| I'm a "Leave only footprints, take only pornography" kind of guy, myself. |
| Explorer Zero
Total Likes: 2026 likes
| | | | Re: This is happening way too often... I have to vent! < Reply # 17 on 11/13/2018 2:44 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Posted by NotBatman
Alright, I'm gonna be That Guy: No one needs a camera to explore. When we were kids, in the 80's, we just had shitty flashlights (and candy bars) and a bike to travel, and we'd spend hours in the storm drains and caves, once we found them. Occasionally we'd come back with cheap 550 cord to do something sketchy. It wasn't until I found UER that it even ocurred to me that bringing a camera could be fun. I know tons of people that actively explore and don't bother with the photography side of it at all. But yeah, in the end it's people sharing things online and driving the exposure that's killing the preservation of good sites for recreational trespassing. Somebody shows a cool thing, something that's usually free and usually out of the way enough that you can hang out and get drunk/stoned with your friends, and yeah... others will want to do that too. Some people are worse at obfuscating location information, some people just don't care, but it's not just Instafame McGee that's causing the problem, it's everyone who shares things with anyone they don't know as well as they think, online especially, but even in person sometimes. The bottom line is every location is ephemeral. Enjoy it while it's there, but don't count on it to stay. Go find the next thing and stop going back to the same places all the time.
| So true. We all saw it changing and many bemoaned the sharing of information years ago. But UER Full Member system used to provide some margin of security. Not any more. Its getting worse. We have Full Members now that don't explore anything but the forums or only explore with Mommy or Daddy along. I guess my similar disappointment is the direction some have tried to take this hobby, ghost buster paranormal bullshit. Wannabe Spec-Ops little fantasy tough guys playing Rambo and having paramilitary treehouse clubs. Everyone is free to get out of it what they want. And most want the notoriety that social media provides as you have said, getting Likes and followers. It separates them from the rest of the All signing All dancing crap of the world. It is what it is.
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