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 Papadupulous
Location: Burlington, ON
Gender: Male
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
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< on 8/18/2010 10:24 PM >
|  | | | So my family doesn't believe urban exploration is safe. Which it isn't completely safe, I'll admit. But from what I have found (or rather haven't) there aren't really many deaths while exploring.
I guess just post any news stories or something about exploring deaths, if any. I want to prove to my family that it's safer than they think.
"Most people think time is a strict progression of chords to effect, when really it's more a big ball of timey wimey... stuff..." |
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Darkwolf
        
Mellow Moderator
Location: Florida... Again...
Gender: Male
I fix things!
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 1 on 8/18/2010 10:27 PM >
| | | | Moved this to the Rookie forum. You might want to try google to answer your question.
Thanks
DW
*Best Post Ever* any meetups to go to the malt plant? I'll join and be the first one over, so you know I'm not a cop. Also I'll bring beer. *DO NOT MESSAGE ME WITH ISSUES. PLEASE USE CONTACT A MODERATOR* |
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Papadupulous
Location: Burlington, ON
Gender: Male
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 2 on 8/18/2010 10:30 PM >
| | | | I checked google, found nothing. Wondering if there was anything.
"Most people think time is a strict progression of chords to effect, when really it's more a big ball of timey wimey... stuff..." |
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MonkeyPunchBaby
 
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 3 on 8/18/2010 10:33 PM >
| | | | Most of the the deaths or serious injuries i have read about, were from drunk/high/or stupid people, who most of the time aren't even UEers. There are a couple that were freak accidents. But as long as you are careful and don't go out of your comfort level you will be fine. There is a place in town we call the Pighouse it is a huge, 11 story silo. It has stairs and ladders going to all the way up to the roof. I have never been past the first floor. I don't like stairs i can see through. I didn't feel comfortable so I didn't risk it. The other 7 people when up there and back without a problem. Never go alone either. Always have someone you can trust not to mess with stuff or break stuff with you. as for google don't search people who died urban exploring. look up deaths in abandoned buildings or abandonments
[last edit 8/18/2010 10:34 PM by MonkeyPunchBaby - edited 1 times]
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Spike
Location: New Zealand
Gender: Male
Rapid Canvas Therapy
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 4 on 8/18/2010 10:36 PM >
| | | | Posted by Papadupulous
So my family doesn't believe urban exploration is safe. Which it isn't completely safe, I'll admit. But from what I have found (or rather haven't) there aren't really many deaths while exploring.
I guess just post any news stories or something about exploring deaths, if any. I want to prove to my family that it's safer than they think.
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Put it this way.....if you drive a car and obey the common sense rules then you would consider yourself pretty safe yeah? (not including being crashed into) same goes for urban ex, if you obey all the common sense rules then it is no more of a calculated risk than driving a car, the only way to 100% guarantee that you won't die doing urban ex is to simply not do it, same as the only way to not die in a car is to not ride in or drive one....just my opinion hope it helps 
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Vectored Approach
Location: Morgan Hill, CA
Gender: Male
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 5 on 8/18/2010 11:11 PM >
| | | | Can't hide from life. You could be killed walking out of the house in the morning. Probably less likely to be injured/killed/maimed for life doing UE than playing football.
Obviously, read up on safety and don't be dumb and you should be fine. Oh, and don't go tagging or trashing any UE locations or there just might be some injuries/maiming.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy. -George Carlin (1937 - 2008) |
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Papadupulous
Location: Burlington, ON
Gender: Male
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 6 on 8/18/2010 11:16 PM >
| | | | Exactly what I thought. Thanks guys!
"Most people think time is a strict progression of chords to effect, when really it's more a big ball of timey wimey... stuff..." |
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Rinzler
Location: New Jersey
Nomad
| |  | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 7 on 8/18/2010 11:25 PM >
| | | | I actually know of a guy who was killed while exploring/hiking one time. I forget what exactly happened but i know people who were there and witnessed it. I just cant remember how the story went.
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | |  | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 8 on 8/18/2010 11:36 PM >
| | | | On a week-long exploring trip the only time I was in danger of serious harm was when a truck nearly rear-ended us while driving too fast in stop-and-go traffic. The worst 'exploring injury' I've ever had wasn't very bad really. Think how often people die in similar hobbies; hiking/climbing/caving/diving.
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rivermyst
Location: Hamilton, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 9 on 8/18/2010 11:59 PM >
| | | | http://www.courier...eoof-1111118066590
When it rains, no drains.
http://urbexbarrie...hearn-tragedy.html
Something a little more local, in one of the most famous Toronto abandonments no less.
Seeing as these two are the only ones I can recall and the fact that thousands of explorations take place worldwide each day, the odds of you dying while exploring could be equated to the odds of dying in a plane crash. When it happens, it's tragic, but it's incredibly rare and blown out of proportion when it does happen.
To see some really bad cliché photos, go to http://flickr.com/mutagen |
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WarBird69
Location: Eastern TN
Gender: Male
Atomic Bird of War
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 10 on 8/19/2010 12:09 AM >
| | | | All of the exploring deaths I remember hearing about have been in drains while raining.
When twilight draws near, when you are pushed to the very limits of your soul, when it seems that all you have left are the dead remnants of the fabric of your life:
-- BELIEVE |
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vov35
Location: Maryland
Gender: Male
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 11 on 8/19/2010 12:27 AM >
| | | | stay away from power pylons, be wary of rotted floors, "when it rains no drains" and don't trespass in texas. 
"Only sheep need a shepherd." -- Voltaire |
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Spike
Location: New Zealand
Gender: Male
Rapid Canvas Therapy
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 12 on 8/19/2010 2:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by vov35
stay away from power pylons, be wary of rotted floors, "when it rains no drains" and don't trespass in texas.
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I take it people in Texas practice the patented Smith & Wesson approach to greeting trespassers?
nosus decipio |
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 13 on 8/19/2010 2:18 AM >
| | | | Posted by spike_nz
I take it people in Texas practice the patented Smith & Wesson approach to greeting trespassers?
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Sometimes there is a local dialect such as Winchester. mainly, neighbors watch out for neighbors, and notice strangers.
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Spike
Location: New Zealand
Gender: Male
Rapid Canvas Therapy
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 14 on 8/19/2010 2:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by AnAppleSnail
Sometimes there is a local dialect such as Winchester. mainly, neighbors watch out for neighbors, and notice strangers.
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Thats fair, I'd probably be pretty unhappy if I caught people on my property, although if i had a sweet missile silo on my property i'd invite people in to explore it, or at least 'pretend' to protect it to make it more exciting!
[last edit 8/19/2010 2:27 AM by Spike - edited 1 times]
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Tupsumato
Location: Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 15 on 8/19/2010 3:56 AM >
| | | | Last year a 12-year-old kid fell through the floor in an abandoned grain silo and died in Turku, Finland. While they were "exploring" just like most kids, I wouldn't count it as UE-related death. They just picked a wrong place to play.
Anyway, from our forum's thread of UE-related deaths I found these:
Trespasser's Fall At Grain Elevator Ends In Death
A man is dead after falling from a shuttered grain elevator in north Minneapolis early Saturday.
In a statement from Minneapolis police, the victim was one of four adults 'prowling' in the warehouse and grain silo complex near the 300 block of Thomas Avenue North, which was marked by 'No Trespassing' signs.
The victim fell through several floors of the abandoned elevator after a concrete beam gave way. The other three escaped unharmed; one of them called 911. By the time police and paramedics had arrived, the victim, who has yet to be identified, was dead.
According to police, the victim and his three companions -- who were cited for trespassing, arrested and released at the scene -- had met only recently. They had driven to Minneapolis to prowl through the old grain elevators and, according to police, did not know the victim well enough to provide a positive identification.
The Medical Examiner's investigation into an official cause of death is underway.
Last January, a 20-year-old University of Minnesota student fell to her death after climbing an abandoned Minneapolis grain elevator with a friend.
And a year ago this month, an 18-year-old Robbinsdale man survived a 70-foot fall into an abandoned grain elevator in the same area as Saturday's fall. Police say grain at the bottom of the silo likely saved that man's life.
(WCCO 28.10.2006) |
I recall someone writing "...this guy deserved it ... he had no business screwing around there at night..." here in UER...
Then there was the Hearn case someone already mentioned.
Teenager found dead in Stockholm shaft
A 13-year-old boy was found dead on Wednesday evening in a 30 metre deep ventilation shaft by Slussen in central Stockholm.
The boy had told his parents that he was heading to Slussen, a key transport junction, but when he had not got in touch and did not answer his mobile phone the police were informed.
"He was later found after a friend showed how it was possible to get into the system of tunnels. When the police patrol came as far as a door where the lock had been busted open they decided to go down into the shaft, where they found the body," Magnus Berntsen at the police told news agency TT.
The Local, 2010-03-04 |
The guy was labeled as an "UE-hobbyist", but he had mostly photographed graffitis.
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TicTac
Location: Philly
Gender: Male
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 16 on 8/19/2010 4:05 AM >
| | | | my parents were more concerned with getting caught trespassing and getting a police record than me getting hurt. Reasonable thing to worry about, but they can't worry/stop me if all I say is "Going to the city" or "out for the day with friends".
The Viaduct runs through the Callowhill Loft District, which is overrun with hipsters. This is just another one of those things a hipster would probably do.
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 17 on 8/19/2010 4:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by rivermyst
Seeing as these two are the only ones I can recall and the fact that thousands of explorations take place worldwide each day, the odds of you dying while exploring could be equated to the odds of dying in a plane crash. When it happens, it's tragic, but it's incredibly rare and blown out of proportion when it does happen.
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The odds of dying while exploring for some are much higher than others.
It depends on your interests.
Also you may find this link to be interesting too:
http://www.livesci...f_dying.html#table
I'll take accidentally falling off something very tall over cancer any day. (Zero history of heart disease in my family, shockingly.)
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
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AnAppleSnail
Location: Charlotte, NC
Gender: Male
ALL the flashlights!
| | | | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 18 on 8/19/2010 4:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by TicTac
my parents were more concerned with getting caught trespassing and getting a police record than me getting hurt. Reasonable thing to worry about, but they can't worry/stop me if all I say is "Going to the city" or "out for the day with friends".
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Be smart, be polite, and be sneaky.
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Yield
Location: Look behind you
Gender: Male
I'd do you for a klondike bar
| | Re: Deaths?
<Reply # 19 on 8/19/2010 4:15 AM >
| | | | I almost died in a freak accident where I banged my head on god knows what three to five stories above a pit full of stagnant water that was impossible to get out of. I was on a catwalk a few feet wide and managed to land on it some how rather than falling off.
However, my mother was once putting air in the tires of the car and by some freak accident hit her head on something and was knocked unconscious, falling backwards and almost being run over by a car who didn't see her.
Could die doing anything I suppose, as long as you use your head (I should NOT have been on the catwalk, as it was the most dangerous/stupid/irresponsible thing I've ever done and I learned my frigging lesson the hard way) you should be okay. Don't climb anything that can't hold your weight, stay out from the middle of rotten roofs, and be extremely careful about infections. Make sure all of your shots are up to date and if you go in a sewer, wear the proper protective clothing.
As for parents, I text my mother the rough coordinates of where I am every time I go exploring so if I die she can find my body.
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