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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9   UER Forum > Archived Old Forum Issues > Part A of Trusted System arrives (Viewed 9155 times) 'Dukes  Noble Donor Gender: Male At least someone llikes me  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 60 on 3/17/2005 4:40 AM >   Posted by Ninjalicious I think it's a shame that so many people view the forums as one-third of site (the LDB and chat being the other 2/3rds). I think this site has always had the forums at its heart. Certainly, I only mirror it on infiltration.org for the forums; I suspect some of the other mirror sites feel the same. Ninj http://www.infiltration.org Well, like it or not, that's what this place offers; a place to share your stuff; it's not just a typical "badass" UE site in all black which never changes after months. The forums, with the exception of photography and the regional boards are basically shit; the rest is interactive comments about LDB entries; THe LDB ain't popular so that you can see something for free; it's popular because you get someone elses take on the same place. And don't forget interactive. Which is why it's so addicting. You don't host any photos? I think you do, and those are the ones veiwed by starry eyed teens . The LDB is viewed by the original explorers, and b) the balloonheads that follow by posting comments, mostly humorous. That's the ultimate sharing. Sure there's people that never posted in the forums ever; or oven set foot in a location, but they are LDB fans for life; they've taken the time to (in some cases) veiw every image on the site. I got your tour winner right here pussies, at least he'd crash out trying. Boffo  Moderator Location: Smithers, BC Gender: Male HONK! HONK!  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 61 on 3/17/2005 4:42 AM >   Posted by Ninjalicious Av: Perhaps it should have been (and could now be) done like Google g-mail invitations: everyone gets two or three to give out, and they disperse gradually and deliberately. Ninj http://www.infiltration.org I was thinking the same thing actually... Here's a lockpick. It might be handy if you, the master of unlocking, take it with you. Ninjalicious  Gone, but always with us Location: Toronto  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 62 on 3/17/2005 4:46 AM >   Posted by 'Dukes The forums, with the exception of photography and the regional boards are basically shit; the rest is interactive comments about LDB entries That's only your opinion. I've had a lot of good conversations here. THe LDB ain't popular so that you can see something for free; it's popular because you get someone elses take on the same place. Yes, and you can get other people's opinions on a wide variety of subjects (including places) in the forums. You don't host any photos? I think you do, and those are the ones veiwed by starry eyed teens . I have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, I host photos on infiltration.org. Did I ever suggest otherwise? The LDB is viewed by the original explorers, and b) the balloonheads that follow by posting comments, mostly humorous. That's the ultimate sharing. Wow. If a typical catalogue of LDB comments is "the ultimate sharing", I'd hate to see the worst sharing. Sure there's people that never posted in the forums ever; or oven set foot in a location, but they are LDB fans for life; they've taken the time to (in some cases) veiw every image on the site. You say this as if it is somehow desirable. It strikes me as a total waste of server resources. Ninj http://www.infiltration.org [last edit 3/17/2005 4:48 AM by Ninjalicious - edited 1 times] Avatar-X  Alpha Husky Location: West Coast Gender: Male yay!  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 63 on 3/17/2005 4:58 AM >   I think the LDB and the forums work together to weave the unique tapestry of the UE community into one. There are people like Ninj who prefer text and stories, and then there are people like 'Dukes who prefer images and facts. Who'se to say one is better than the other? It's about personal preference. Ninj, the fact that the LDB is so popular is clear indication that it's doing something right for many people, and I find it somewhat surprising that you're unwilling to accept that other people may have different opinions than your own on this issue. Anyway, the admins and I are discussing alternative solutions. The trust system isn't working as planned. -av huskies - such fluff. Jester  Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada Gender: Male Always just out of sight...  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 64 on 3/17/2005 5:22 AM >   Posted by Avatar-X Ninj, the fact that the LDB is so popular is clear indication that it's doing something right for many people And the Jackass videos are quite popular yet I wouldn't say that's a clear indication they do things right for people... So I don't really think thats the best arguement. Yes, lots of people like the LDB. I personally don't, but I just won't contribute to it so that takes care of that for me. I still believe the forums themselves are the substance of the site and the reason I agreed to mirror when I was asked. If I had been asked to mirror the LDB, I would have declined... It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. xenia  Gender: Female  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 65 on 3/17/2005 2:00 PM >   From a very quiet UER member living on a remote continent in a very remote location - the UER forums are of the best I have found on the internet. I agree with Ninja that they are the heart of UER. I totally enjoy reading everyone's views on a variety of topics, and I really enjoy being part of this group of people who seem to be keenly aware of the world around them and to be able to discuss so many different interesting issues. I don't participate in discussions actively because I don't feel I have much to contribute (and am generally unconfident about many things), but being able to be a quieter member of the community has been important to me. As someone who posts very little, I doubt anyone will ever get to know me or will trust me, and I honestly can't see what I can do about that. I will miss this community, however - but I do understand why this new system is being instituted. "After sleeping through a hundred million centuries we have finally opened our eyes on a sumptuous planet, sparkling with color, bountiful with life. Within decades we must close our eyes again. Isn’t it a noble, an enlightened way of spending our brief time in the sun, to work at understanding the universe and how we have come to wake up in it?" Richard Dawkins Frost  Location: K.Dot Gender: Male No beer makes Frosty go..something something..(Taz: Crrazzy?)..Dont mind if I doo!  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 66 on 3/17/2005 2:28 PM >   Posted by delta7 From a very quiet UER member living on a remote continent in a very remote location - the UER forums are of the best I have found on the internet. I agree with Ninja that they are the heart of UER. I totally enjoy reading everyone's views on a variety of topics, and I really enjoy being part of this group of people who seem to be keenly aware of the world around them and to be able to discuss so many different interesting issues. I don't participate in discussions actively because I don't feel I have much to contribute (and am generally unconfident about many things), but being able to be a quieter member of the community has been important to me. As someone who posts very little, I doubt anyone will ever get to know me or will trust me, and I honestly can't see what I can do about that. I will miss this community, however - but I do understand why this new system is being instituted. Come into chat a little bit then. Tell us about where you're from. Surely you must have some stories to tell? If you show your face in chat enough, you'll become trusted. Why is marijuana not legal? Why is marijuana not legal? Its a natural plant that grows in the dirt. You know what's not natural, 80 year old dudes with hardons. Thats not natural, but we got pills for that. We're dedicating all our resources to keeping the old guys erect but we're puttin people in jail for smoking something that grows in the dirt. xenia  Gender: Female  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 67 on 3/17/2005 2:36 PM >   Hmm, just tried that (for the first time). I got a message saying I need flash player 7 or newer, so I'll have to first sort that out. Thanks for the suggestion, though, Frost; I'll sort out the software and come into chat sometime "After sleeping through a hundred million centuries we have finally opened our eyes on a sumptuous planet, sparkling with color, bountiful with life. Within decades we must close our eyes again. Isn’t it a noble, an enlightened way of spending our brief time in the sun, to work at understanding the universe and how we have come to wake up in it?" Richard Dawkins IIVQ  Location: La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL Gender: Male Back in Urbex!  |  |  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 68 on 3/17/2005 3:30 PM >   I just want to say that nobody of the people who trusted me and only one of the 20 or so people I trust, are people I have ever met in person. So all trust here is purely trough UER-contact (although I have some UE-people in my MSN-contact list). Tijmen Posted by MapMan | 18/9/2005 19:25 | Hedy Lamarr made porn? Posted by turbozutek | 20/9/2005 2:29 | Dude, educate us! TurboZutek  King Dick Location: Scotland Gender: Male Giant octo-penised rapephant  |  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 69 on 3/17/2005 5:15 PM >   I'd just like to chime in and say that while the forums here are OK, they are nothing special whatsoever... In fact, they may as well have been coded in a bog standard phbb and be done with. Now, the LDB is an amazing piece of work, which is truly unique! Only now I'm beginning to see sites that allow you to share photos and post comments on them with anything like the smooth design and flawless operation of the LDB here. So before you knock the LDB, consider that without it UER would be forums and a chat - generic, nothing special at all, might as well join Yahoo! groups. Without an LDB I wouldn't have joined - I'm sure there are 100s who feel the same. However, to haul ass back to on topic: I raised some concerns over the trusted system and Av is reviewing it... Can't ask for much more really! Chris... We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. D-rock240  Location: Baltimore Gender: Male  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 70 on 3/17/2005 5:28 PM >   The thing that initially drew me into the site was the LDB. There are plenty of sites that have forums but I havent found any other sites that have as many locations and pictures as the LDB. The reason why I like it is because I will probably never make it to a lot of the sites listed, especially the abandoned island city in Japan. I also like the ability to create your own locations and upload your own photos, which makes the site much more interactive an interesting. The forums are helpful as well but I spend the majority of time looking through the LDB. Just my 2 cents. D-rock Edit:Grammar [last edit 3/17/2005 5:30 PM by D-rock240 - edited 1 times] "If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Katherine Harris said. separating religion and politics is "wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers." :( Guy With Hat  Location: Toronto Gender: Male Balconies shmalconies.  |  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 71 on 3/17/2005 6:24 PM >   Really, the best way to become trusted is to live in a city with lots of UEers. You'd think it would be a joke, but having the opportunity to meet other people face to face, going exploring together, and not being a total dickhead during that time is the ultimate way to get trusted. If there's a UE meet in your area, do your best to attend, if not regularly then at least once. Or, if you're feeling really ambitious, hold your own UE meet for people in your area. If you live too far from other people to go exploring with them, well, do what other people have said and hang out on the forums, the UE DB and the chat more often. I rarely post to the forums and mostly comment/post galleries in the UE DB. But any involvement in the site will get you trusted, just contribute in a positive way to the UE community. It's not like that's difficult. Cavity Creep  Gender: Male  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 72 on 3/17/2005 6:46 PM >   Posted by Avatar-X Anyway, the admins and I are discussing alternative solutions. The trust system isn't working as planned. -av It has only been a single day. I say give it some time and then decide that it is a failure. Sure there are going to be problems, I myself do not know a lot of the people here, but I knew enough to get me my 3 stars the first time I signed on after this was implemented. Not that I am bragging. I just think it would be nice to have a system that is a bit more secure than the old one. Instead of just pissing and moaning for the sake of pissing and moaning why don't you either give this system a chance or if you really hate it take the time to think of a better alternative or a way to get yourself noticed by other members. For those of you who prefer their lone wolf status, know no one in the community and prefer to explore alone, let me just point out to you that exploring alone is not exactly the safest thing to do. If you go out alone, you get injured or die and nobody knows until they haul your your dead lone wolf carcass out of a cave. It is bad not just for you but for the community as well. You put us in a bad light. Go out. Meet people. Trust me. They are mostly nice. Bratchny  Location: New York City Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 73 on 3/17/2005 6:48 PM >   Posted by Guy With Hat Really, the best way to become trusted is to live in a city with lots of UEers. <-- Drops out of school, quits job, moves to area with more UEers, leave behind family, friends, carreer...um, wait, no - that is not even close to the solution to anything!! Bryan Frost  Location: K.Dot Gender: Male No beer makes Frosty go..something something..(Taz: Crrazzy?)..Dont mind if I doo!  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 74 on 3/17/2005 6:49 PM >   Posted by Bratchny <-- Drops out of school, quits job, moves to area with more UEers, leave behind family, friends, carreer...um, wait, no - that is not even close to the solution to anything!! But you're in new york. There are lots of NY explorers. Why is marijuana not legal? Why is marijuana not legal? Its a natural plant that grows in the dirt. You know what's not natural, 80 year old dudes with hardons. Thats not natural, but we got pills for that. We're dedicating all our resources to keeping the old guys erect but we're puttin people in jail for smoking something that grows in the dirt. Bratchny  Location: New York City Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 75 on 3/17/2005 6:52 PM >   Posted by Cavity Creep If you go out alone, you get injured or die and nobody knows until they haul your your dead lone wolf carcass out of a cave. It is bad not just for you but for the community as well. You put us in a bad light. Go out. Meet people. Trust me. They are mostly nice. This thread has insipred me to post comments becasue some of the comments are absurd...no one said anything about exploring alone - some of us have friends who are not associated with this board who share similar interest - chatting in a chat room is not the only way to make friends.... Bryan Bratchny  Location: New York City Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 76 on 3/17/2005 6:55 PM >   Posted by Frost But you're in new york. There are lots of NY explorers. But contributing to this site in no way should require that we all get together and jer off together. I mean, the few conversations I've had with people have been great, and I'm not opposed to meeting people, but all in good time....In fact, I intend to meet people from this site for some UEing in the near future, but there is no hurry for gods sake... Bryan Frost  Location: K.Dot Gender: Male No beer makes Frosty go..something something..(Taz: Crrazzy?)..Dont mind if I doo!  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 77 on 3/17/2005 7:55 PM >   Posted by Bratchny But contributing to this site in no way should require that we all get together and jer off together. I mean, the few conversations I've had with people have been great, and I'm not opposed to meeting people, but all in good time....In fact, I intend to meet people from this site for some UEing in the near future, but there is no hurry for gods sake... If there's no hurry, then there's no hurry to up the trust levels. You're setting your own pace, therefore will have to accept that pace and wait it out to get to level 3. I mean, unless you just keep communicating on the board. Really, just meeting people or chatting are not the only ways. Post threads, have conversations with people, don't be a dick, don't break the rules, and all will be fine. This really is a simple thing to understand here folks. Why is marijuana not legal? Why is marijuana not legal? Its a natural plant that grows in the dirt. You know what's not natural, 80 year old dudes with hardons. Thats not natural, but we got pills for that. We're dedicating all our resources to keeping the old guys erect but we're puttin people in jail for smoking something that grows in the dirt. Bratchny  Location: New York City Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 78 on 3/17/2005 8:16 PM >   Posted by Frost If there's no hurry, then there's no hurry to up the trust levels. You're setting your own pace, therefore will have to accept that pace and wait it out to get to level 3. I mean, unless you just keep communicating on the board. Really, just meeting people or chatting are not the only ways. Post threads, have conversations with people, don't be a dick, don't break the rules, and all will be fine. This really is a simple thing to understand here folks. Look - I realize it's only like day 2 since this started so it's not a problem yet - we're both right - there is no hurry for anything. However - I think that I've contributed a lot to this site even though I know no one personally, and think it's a pile of steamy bull shit that I may loose my access to certain areas of the site just becasue I haven't run out to meet people, and often don't have time to post messages. 7 out of the 9 locations that I've contributed to are locations that I found on my own - I spent a lot of time adding description, history, writing stories about my visits, etc. I find all of these shitty locations with one picture, or of an AMES store, or some hole that someone dug in the ground, but I'M the one who may loose access?? So now in the past few days I've posted numerous times about those of us in the situation I'm in, and does anyone offer any practical inteligent advise - not at all. Go meet people, go join a UE group, come in the chat room, etc...those are all ass ideas. I'm perfectly happy exploring with my own group of friends, the one group I read about in NYC is all about dressing up in silly costumes and exploring, and I don't like chat rooms - so now what?? I'm ranting a bit becasue I'm pissed off. Everyone keeps shouting out generic replies that all basically suggest that I "spend more time on UER". Well, I've spent a lot of time on my locations, if that isn't enough time, then maybe it's not worth it. I work, go to school, commute over an hour every day, have family, friends, volunteer work, etc etc...and I like to go out on the weekends and catch up with friends, not sit in a chat room like some overweight middle aged pervert. Anyway, if this "trusted" thing actually continues (which sounds doubtful as it's only a popularity contest at htis point) then maybe I'll have to hustle and meet people, or maybe I should write a message about what a great job AV does on this site, and how impressed I am that it's up and running again so fast, like about 20 other "untrusted" people have done in the past week. I'm not here to suck ass, if that is what it's about then count me out. I'd like to remain a part of it all since I greatly enjoy the hobby and the site - but lets get off the idea of deciding how each other spends his or her time.... Bryan David E  Location: San Francisco, CA Gender: Male Do not believe everything you see on TV.  |  |  Re: Part A of Trusted System arrives <Reply # 79 on 3/17/2005 8:36 PM >   You know what, I have to agree with Bryan (Bratchny). Some of us have only been here for a short time and either had not had the opportunity to meet others, cannot because of famial, work, or other obligations, or just can't decide what the hell is going on here. I voted for the trusted status when it was first proposed, but I also said this would get cliqueish and a popularity contest. And all have proved me correct. I am not here to kiss someone's ass either to get 'trusted.' But I do feel something is needed here, not in the currect implementation though. For instance, someone approved me and I (as far as I know) have never seen or spoken to this person? ADDED: Wow, I am glad someone here trusts me, but please talk to me in the future so I can trust you too. [last edit 3/17/2005 8:42 PM by David E - edited 1 times] FREE THE UER 6! DOWN WITH UER LACKEYS! And to the mod that changed my sig, blow me! 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