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Felonious Monk
Location: Between Bridgeport and Branford Gender: Male
This text is personal.
| | | | The Plague Spreads < on 12/11/2008 11:46 PM >
| | | My first time playing around with something like this. 1 2 3 4 5 6 [last edit 12/12/2008 12:57 AM by Felonious Monk - edited 4 times]
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belleZ
Location: knoxville, tn Gender: Female
free the wm3!
| | | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 1 on 12/12/2008 12:03 AM >
| | | I don't care what the haters say. I love polaroid, and they DO have an artistic place.
These are killer shots, i'm betting you shot with your normal camera too. lets see some more <3.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA Gender: Male
| | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 2 on 12/12/2008 12:16 AM >
| | | These are really, really good. The model pictures are unreal. But I like the reflections the best.
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 3 on 12/12/2008 12:16 AM >
| | | Are these really Polaroids? They look nothing like what I'm used to seeing off of Polaroid film...
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mentok
Location: buy the ticket take the ride Gender: Male
absinthe makes the heart grow fonder
| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 4 on 12/12/2008 12:39 AM >
| | | These look amazing, the best Polaroids I've seen, you really have some rich color and texture in those. The contrast is also amazing.
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Beautyin Dark Places
Location: Harrisburg area, Pa, USA Gender: Female
Bitches get Stitches
| | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 5 on 12/12/2008 12:44 AM >
| | | Honestly breathtaking. I'd hang something like this on my wall, no joke. although I doubt they're polaroids, I like the format. Even the fingerprint in #1 has an artistic quality. The other ones don't look real enough to pass off.. Bravo. Edited for content... [last edit 12/12/2008 12:46 AM by Beautyin Dark Places - edited 1 times]
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Felonious Monk
Location: Between Bridgeport and Branford Gender: Male
This text is personal.
| | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 6 on 12/12/2008 12:57 AM >
| | | Yeah, they're not polaroids. I was experimenting though and loving the results for the occasional photo. I like how they feel kind of like a polaroid but still retain a lot of the qualities of the original camera they were shot on. I think I might mess around with extracting the image in the future and running that through some post work to see what happens just for fun. Thanks for the feedback everyone.
"i've been trying for almost a year to get Colfax to one of my events to give it some credibility" - bfinan0 |
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msgsudz
Location: Peterborough, Ontario Gender: Male
Msgsudz has an overactive bowel and shits like a Clydesdale.
| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 7 on 12/12/2008 2:25 AM >
| | | these are awesome dude...truly. #5 is killer.
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briansbrains
Location: valbona Gender: Male
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| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 9 on 12/12/2008 3:09 PM >
| | | I will never understand fake polaroids.
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Felonious Monk
Location: Between Bridgeport and Branford Gender: Male
This text is personal.
| | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 10 on 12/12/2008 3:23 PM >
| | | First off let me preface this by saying, I know most of you think I'm an epic asshole. The general tone of this following post is meant to convey genuine interest not indignant defiance. imo: There are plenty of other post processing techniques out there that mimic mediums. There's tons and tons of lomo actions. black and white done in Photoshop mimics black and white film. I certainly would never run every shot through this thing but i think once in a while the effect fits the subject while still allowing the photographer some of the features of the original camera the frame was shot on. Sadly, this action lacks fine tuning such as cropping, toning scratch density etc. so it really is nothing more than a novelty. That being said, I was waiting for you to weigh in on this. I'm curious as to you and Glass' take on what separates the reproductions from the actual film. What qualities are not reproduced and also what draws you to polaroid as a medium over other mediums? This was meant as an experiment and really nothing more so I'd definitely appreciate your input. I guess what I'm asking is what characteristics separate the conversions from the actual film shots? Also, in your mind is there a way to bridge the gap between the two in a satisfactory enough manner for say, reproduction for a client perhaps? I was thinking of using these with lifestyles shoots spread across the cover of a photo album or something similar. I like the effect as far as toning changes within the photo but mostly dislike the frames and the finger prints. I wish there was a way to fine tune this more. As is, i find myself capturing about 30 frames of each conversion in the name of finding the best combination of toning and scratches. I throw out 29 of them and keep 1 and then drag it into photoshop and fine tune it from there in terms of levels and changing the scratching patterns. I dunno. It probably boils down to nothing more than a novelty. [last edit 12/12/2008 3:35 PM by Felonious Monk - edited 1 times]
"i've been trying for almost a year to get Colfax to one of my events to give it some credibility" - bfinan0 |
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micro
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 11 on 12/12/2008 3:31 PM >
| | | I can understand wanting to replicate polaroid-style colours, but I think that adding the frame to these is kind of cheesy.
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Felonious Monk
Location: Between Bridgeport and Branford Gender: Male
This text is personal.
| | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 12 on 12/12/2008 3:36 PM >
| | | Posted by micro I can understand wanting to replicate polaroid-style colours, but I think that adding the frame to these is kind of cheesy.
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The way the utility works that I was using, it automatically adds a polaroid style border to the conversion. I think if I mess around with this in the future, I'll be trimming off the borders.
"i've been trying for almost a year to get Colfax to one of my events to give it some credibility" - bfinan0 |
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briansbrains
Location: valbona Gender: Male
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| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 13 on 12/12/2008 3:41 PM >
| | | I know, I understand this was experimental, but I am very bitter with fake polaroid stuff. This "poladroid" action that has been going around adds dust and vignettes the photo, which is just fake looking. The colors are too saturated, and some of the colors are impossible to be created with the real films. The emulsion finger prints are retarded to me. Polaroids can be sharp like these, and can have some nice colors if you know what to buy. I prefer Polaroid over other mediums because it's the film, the print, the chemicals, everything it right there. It can't be reproduced, it's original and it's unpredictable and.. instant. These new wave of imitating film is pointless to me. There's so much more you can learn using the real medium. And it's insulting to people who prefer to shoot them.
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briansbrains
Location: valbona Gender: Male
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| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 14 on 12/12/2008 3:46 PM >
| | | p.s. If you like the colors and stuff without the frames, it looks like they just shifted some of the color channels. If you have photoshop, it's not that hard to do.
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Felonious Monk
Location: Between Bridgeport and Branford Gender: Male
This text is personal.
| | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 15 on 12/12/2008 3:50 PM >
| | | I understand what you are saying here but the notion of "imitating film" is far from new. Since digital photography since it's inception has sought to imitate film. I guess it boils down to the film v. digi debate in the end. I was particularly interested in your take as you seem to use polaroid as your primary medium and you command it quite well compared to other examples i've seen. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Ps. yeah, i'm aware of the way they handle the colors. There seems to be 4 variants, a white process, a yellow process, a magenta process and a blue process. I think what I like about the toning is it seems to be some sort of medium between a cross-process and a vintage color shot. Out of curiosity which frame comes closest, color-wise, to a "real" polaroid. Perhaps some more experimenting with color curves is in order? or is there a more effective way to gently shift toning within a photo without it looking forced or creating shifts or banding in the colors? I'm still learning here and am always down for input. [last edit 12/12/2008 4:06 PM by Felonious Monk - edited 2 times]
"i've been trying for almost a year to get Colfax to one of my events to give it some credibility" - bfinan0 |
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briansbrains
Location: valbona Gender: Male
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| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 16 on 12/12/2008 4:24 PM >
| | | I don't want to sound like an ass, but none of them come close to the real colors of polaroids. I can't even find one that looks closest.
600 film picks up warmer colors.
Time-Zero Film is mostly blue/cyan/yellow.
new artistic tz warm pastel with cyan shadow.
crazy shit that would be hard to replicate in photoshop.
hope that helps.
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Felonious Monk
Location: Between Bridgeport and Branford Gender: Male
This text is personal.
| | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 17 on 12/12/2008 4:46 PM >
| | | I was trying to see if #1 was closer perhaps because i'd used a photo with 50% saturation as the original before conversion.
"i've been trying for almost a year to get Colfax to one of my events to give it some credibility" - bfinan0 |
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 18 on 12/12/2008 4:49 PM >
| | | Posted by Felonious Monk First off let me preface this by saying, I know most of you think I'm an epic asshole. The general tone of this following post is meant to convey genuine interest not indignant defiance. That being said, I was waiting for you to weigh in on this. I'm curious as to you and Glass' take on what separates the reproductions from the actual film. What qualities are not reproduced and also what draws you to polaroid as a medium over other mediums? This was meant as an experiment and really nothing more so I'd definitely appreciate your input. I guess what I'm asking is what characteristics separate the conversions from the actual film shots? Also, in your mind is there a way to bridge the gap between the two in a satisfactory enough manner for say, reproduction for a client perhaps? I was thinking of using these with lifestyles shoots spread across the cover of a photo album or something similar. I like the effect as far as toning changes within the photo but mostly dislike the frames and the finger prints. I wish there was a way to fine tune this more. As is, i find myself capturing about 30 frames of each conversion in the name of finding the best combination of toning and scratches. I throw out 29 of them and keep 1 and then drag it into photoshop and fine tune it from there in terms of levels and changing the scratching patterns. I dunno. It probably boils down to nothing more than a novelty.
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Well, you named me, so let me return my thoughts. First off, I enjoy your photography immensely and don't think you're an ass... I don't know you at all apart from your work. I think that the attraction to polaroid film is that it takes out the processor at the film labs, I think I can speak for other photographers that shoot film when I say, "Stop tampering with my prints!" I never really know what the print will look like given a negative with the middle person behind a computer deciding contrast, brightness, etc. (I share even less trust with the ambiguous algorithms in newer machines that have no human intervention in the process.) Polaroid film removes the doubt from film; you trigger emulsion and the image appears and it never has to leave your hand. Magic. From the artistic standpoint, aside from having a non-tampered medium, polaroids are imitated because of the neat-o blend of weird (read: unpredictable) aperture effects of some of the old plastic lenses and muted colors that come off of expired film a lot of the time. What you did here is crop a high-res image into a fake-looking polaroid frame. I'm not going to deny you your artistic right to do whatever you want with the images, but if you want them to look like polaroids, you can do that without the frame. It's just square format with muted colors and some really blurry lines in the background... not necessarily dust layers and fingerprint overlays. Great, now I sound like a dick take care.
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Felonious Monk
Location: Between Bridgeport and Branford Gender: Male
This text is personal.
| | | | Re: The Plague Spreads <Reply # 19 on 12/12/2008 5:55 PM >
| | | Thanks for the input folks. Definitely appreciate it.
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