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plexiglas
Location: SF Bay Area, California Gender: Female
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Constructive criticism < on 7/14/2008 2:18 AM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | ![](http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/vorbei/Roof1.jpg) Roof shot taken just recently. I really like that I got the outline of the city on the horizon, but something seems a bit off. I know the sky is way too white...but how could one even avoid this? What could I have changed to make it better? I really want to improve my photography. [last edit 7/14/2008 2:20 AM by plexiglas - edited 2 times]
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metawaffle
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| | ![longexposure.net](forum/www.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 1 on 7/14/2008 2:26 AM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | To my eye, it's the trees that are the problem - they're too big and detailed for the city skyline to possibly compete. Finding a different composition that avoids that looks like it might be easier said than done, though. As for the exposure issue with the white sky, you might find this thread interesting: http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&threadid=49601
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Alias
Location: UK Gender: Male
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| | ![nicholas-adams.co.uk](forum/www.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 2 on 7/14/2008 8:10 AM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | there is nothing in the photo of interest, a photo needs a subject.
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silver halide
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 3 on 7/14/2008 4:38 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | I would say use a really long lens, so the skyline fills the frame.
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Sirber
Location: Québec, QC Gender: Male
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 4 on 7/14/2008 4:42 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Posted by Alias there is nothing in the photo of interest, a photo needs a subject.
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+1
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micro
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 5 on 7/14/2008 5:06 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | You need to get rid of the things that add nothing of interest to the photo. Unfortunately in this case, those elements make up roughly 90% of what you captured.
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desmet
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| | | ![Desolate Metropolis](forum/www.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 7 on 7/14/2008 6:20 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Yea, you pretty much need to fill the frame with stuff that's interesting. Micro's crop is about right. Honestly, take a step back and look at the roof...what is interesting about it? Not much.
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plexiglas
Location: SF Bay Area, California Gender: Female
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 8 on 7/14/2008 8:48 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | You people are pretty harsh! Yes of course I have read about the rule of thirds, and have attempted at using it before but kind of failed here. Good point about the only part I like being kind of muted-out. I think I was so excited about being where I was that I didn't realize the picture I was taking was kind of boring. (Need to be more aware of this tendency...)
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micro
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 9 on 7/14/2008 9:19 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Yeah, I was actually going to make that point about "being excited" because I think it can lead to bad pictures. A lot of people think that because a place seems awesome to them a the time, all they have to do is take a picture and *presto* instant awesomeness. Unfortunately the camera doesn't automatically record the same way your eye sees things or whatever it is you were feeling at the time. There's no easy way around it, but walking around a place as much as you can before taking out the camera can help. If you still find something interesting the second time you walk by it then you're probably on the right path. If not, then you're just wasting your time.
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182 lbs of sad
Location: in the gym training my ass off! Gender: Male
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 10 on 7/20/2008 4:51 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Posted by whiteonwhite You people are pretty harsh!
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no way, people used to get it alot worse before. as for the shot, there is not subject, i should know what im suppost to be looking at right away. this picture leaves me confused.
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RailGuy88
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 11 on 8/8/2008 8:22 AM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | I think, if I had to shoot the roof for my subject, I'd use odd angles and focus on one prime object. Let's say I re-did the shot, where would I start?
1) I'd choose that flag as my background center-point. 2) Then I'd place the camera body almost on the ground (roof floor), and back it up into the opposite corner. 3) Using the lens' zoom feature, I'd zoom almost up to that flag, but yet retain the roof in the foreground (maybe keep some vents in place for added visuals). 4) Next, I'd frame the opposite corner, flag, vents, and roof floor into the shot. 5) Finally, I'd focus on one or two vents, keeping the roof floor and flag out of focus and allow them to fade out of your focus point. This would then create a perspective of an object on the roof with the ground visible, but not of interest; and the flag visible, but not the focus point; thus making the entire roof landscape much more interesting. You could even to a photo inlay within this shot, making a vent or two your subject and creating a macro shot from that. But this is what I'd do. Probably has no interest to you whatsoever... ![](emote/8.gif) -R
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Sange85
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 12 on 8/8/2008 2:23 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: Infiltration Forums](/forum/fid/3.gif) | | I'm a new photographer too, and one of my friend told me especially when first starting out is to keep it simple. Find your subjcet and make that contribute to at very least 1/4 of the frame. Don't over complicate it As for this picture: a few suggestions 1. a have no idea what your trying to take a picture of other then the roof of this building. 2. Overcast/grey days are really only good for black and white phtotgraphy these are just some tips I was given when i started out
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telefunker
Location: Somewhere in Belgium Gender: Male
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| | ![](forum/www.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 13 on 8/9/2008 9:13 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | You're on a roof. Once inside a building it's kind of obvious what to photograph; details, perspectives, etc. In this case, you are quite high above the ground, what you'll see beneath you (whilst standing on the edge) just might be a bit more interesting than what kind of material the roof is covered with. I can't imagine people climbing very high to take a look at the roofing (whilst in your shot that is half of the picture).
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Ram23
Location: Cincinnati, OH and/or Queens, NY Gender: Male
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| | | ![Architecture - Research - Photography](forum/www.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 14 on 8/10/2008 6:04 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Do you have a UV filter? That helps with making the skys look better. Also, I would take some of the advice here about composing the shot, I find myself in the same situation a lot. The conditions also can hurt a shot like this, it looks like it was a bit hazy outside. The difference shooting on a clear day can make is huge sometimes. However, cropping this one down makes it a bit more interesting, I think:
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Lord
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 15 on 8/10/2008 10:44 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | the only thing I would suggest is one pick a clearer day for the picture and zoom in a bit more (less white sky) and two: actually I would find a higher location so that you can get the skyline in a bit better.. that and put the fstop all the way up and focus on something closer to the skyline rather than the roof itself what you could have done from that location is turn the camera 90 degrees and zoom in so the the sky line is filling up most of the width of the picture and near the top of the frame then you would also get the roof as well.. just as long as you focus on something around 1/2 the distance to the skyline itself btw how high is that roof? so except maybe even less sky in the pic and I shopped it to deal with the excessive brightness ( a touch) this is what i am talking about
added a pic edit [last edit 8/10/2008 10:51 PM by Lord - edited 1 times]
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Audace
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 16 on 8/11/2008 5:55 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Posted by Ram23 Do you have a UV filter?
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Do you mean a polarizer?
Sange85 2. Overcast/grey days are really only good for black and white photography
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Can't say I agree with this. Certainly you can create beautiful monochromes on overcast days. I took these two pictures within 15 minutes of each other on an overcast morning. It's one of my favorite monochrome pictures, and I like the color one too. (Except for the top right corner, I don't like that so much.)
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![](http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6176/fountainza5.jpg) I don't know much about composition, so I'm not going to suggest you work on it. Try returning to this roof at sunset or sunrise, so you can see how the lighting conditions affect the image. Could turn out beautiful. Don't forget a tripod.
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6-4-2
Location: Vancouver Island
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| ![Send Email](forum/email.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 17 on 8/13/2008 5:17 AM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Looks like the photo you really want is about a kilometer away. The roof is a large piece of nothing taking up the whole photo and the sky is pretty blah. The skyline has great potential and kudos on finding it, hope you get a better angle!
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sebastian
Location: muthafuckin'downtown 514
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| | ![Flickr](forum/www.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 18 on 8/13/2008 7:52 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | Posted by whiteonwhite You people are pretty harsh!
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you tittled your thread "Constructive criticism" right? I didn't see any particular bashing on your shot, but great feedbacks from some people. What's the problem? It this true that you shot lacks of an interesting subject, simple as that. There's too much going on and at the same time nothing that particuly catches the eyes. Also, the general compostion is crooked on the right, with is kinda bothering. [last edit 8/13/2008 7:54 PM by sebastian - edited 2 times]
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flux
Location: North Carolina Gender: Male
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| | ![Flickr Photo Album](forum/www.gif) | Re: Constructive criticism <Reply # 19 on 8/17/2008 11:21 PM >
| ![Posted on Forum: UER Forum](/forum/fid/1.gif) | | In this picture the wall to the left leads you into the picture, goes across and leads you right back out. Personally I'd leave the roof out, doesn't serve much purpose and not really much to look at. [last edit 8/17/2008 11:22 PM by flux - edited 1 times]
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