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AmberLou
 
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 120 on 2/13/2011 8:01 PM >
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Explored a motel two days ago, second floor access was denied by a lock on a door. I removed the lock by prying out the screws, freeing the door. When I left, I placed the screws back in its place. There was clear indication of others visiting the place, so was pleasantly surprised that everyone before me have been placing the screws back in when they left the place. Keep it up!
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Question, was there still a note on the wall still in the room on the left saying something along the lines of not taking anything out of the room?
We did the same thing, regarding the door...seems like either someone lives or stays up there.
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geoff5093
   
location:
New Hampshire
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 121 on 2/28/2011 5:51 PM >
| | | | I have not, and don't intend to break anything to gain entrance into a building. So far I've had luck finding opened/unlocked doors and windows, or entering in through already broken windows. I have at one point unscrewed a board to enter, and used a philips screwdriver to open a door which had the handle removed but the mechanism still in place.
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jeepdave
 
location:
Anderson, SC
Gender: Male
It's also a gun.
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<Reply # 122 on 2/28/2011 6:16 PM >
| | | | Mine is simple, I will not do any damage to a structure to get in. I will check every door. I will jiggle a lock. I will try a window. But if its locked up tight, I will not force entry. Now, I mostly explore rural, and these places are owned by a person usually, not some corporation or the state. So I look at in the do unto others kinda way. If I owned a neglected building I would not care if someone checks it out, just don't break anything, steal anything of value, or try and sue me if you hurt yourself.
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\/adder
location:
DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
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<Reply # 123 on 2/28/2011 6:25 PM >
| | | | Anything that requires "unusual effort" or even opening an already ajar door slightly you can be charged with burglary; not that it's gonna stick but it can affect other charges. They'll probably drop the b/e charge and convict on the trespassing charge where-as a single trespass charge would have been dismissed with court fees.
Still I prefer to climb my way to a second or third floor and then make/find a way in for two reasons:
a. It makes it difficult for anyone to come in after you. Carjack a door and the cops have reasonable cause to search the building AND you've already made their entrance.
b. Climbing is unexpected, doing unexpected things is a good way to avoid being caught. There's no evidence of your entry, unless you are seen in act or on camera or trip a motion sensor they have no reason to suspect you are or were there.
Even if you're spotted and you can get inside you can hideout inside the ceiling or AC ducts of a building for a few hours if need be. Good luck bringing in a search dog to catch a trespasser. Thermal imaging stuff ... might do it but what are the odds of that?
As long as you parked smartly you can almost always wait it out.
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Choco
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<Reply # 124 on 3/4/2011 6:55 PM >
| | | | Hey im new to the site but not to being places i shouldnt. Now i draw the line at destroying or breaking things to get in. I didnt care as much when i was 14 and just looking for places to practice my graff. i used to go in through the open windows i had just broken. But as i got older and got into takin pics instead i started respecting the locations more and leavin them for the next person. Now im only into industrial facilities and they are usually locked on the ground floor so ill go in by a second story window or broken skylight or balcony door. But if a window is broken i will knock out the rest of the glass so i dont hurt myself. but i wont start the destruction.
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nvecchioni89
location:
Maryland
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 125 on 3/9/2011 8:56 PM >
| | | | If it is sealed pretty tight to where I would have to break a window or something, I wont. There has only been one place like that so far that I have come across though. Most have been a pretty easy way in (doors or windows already open). Or one place that literally had a giant hole in the side of the wall. No idea how someone could even manage that.
Posted by TheVicariousVadder
Even if you're spotted and you can get inside you can hideout inside the ceiling or AC ducts of a building for a few hours if need be. Good luck bringing in a search dog to catch a trespasser. Thermal imaging stuff ... might do it but what are the odds of that?
As long as you parked smartly you can almost always wait it out.
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Apperently it can happen. We went up to a building one night, that we had been many times before. We saw the lights so we figured we would wait it out as it was a more popular place, and there were other people there that night. So after about 45 minutes, we decided to leave, were walking quickly out, and they got us. They stood there watching us with night vision goggles the entire time. Guy was real nice though, we had a long discussion about his goggles. Heh.
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MindHacker
location:
Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
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<Reply # 126 on 3/10/2011 1:51 AM >
| | | | For the record, night vision goggles are not "thermal vision".
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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nvecchioni89
location:
Maryland
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 127 on 3/10/2011 3:21 AM >
| | | | Oh, I know. Just saying it was completely unexpected 
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\/adder
location:
DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
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<Reply # 128 on 3/10/2011 3:34 AM >
| | | | Posted by nvecchioni89
Oh, I know. Just saying it was completely unexpected
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Mind giving us more details? Where were you hiding? The roof? Inside?
Even the police don't normally carry IR goggles (the same kind used in disaster rescue) that can see through thin walls and such. Generally concrete or brick or metal is more than enough to block these types of devices.
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Eschaton
location:
Western NC
Gender: Male
Entry: Eschaton (es-kuh-tawn) noun | end of time, climax of history | Etymology: Greek for 'last'
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<Reply # 129 on 3/11/2011 4:44 AM >
| | | | The way I see it, deconstruction =/= destruction.
I know the judicial system will disagree, but unscrewing the boards to enter and re-screwing them when you leave will make no difference to the man.
It may not be an optimal choice in every city, but it works well in mine.
Ars Gratia Adventuris |
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nykon
location:
New Zealand
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 130 on 3/11/2011 4:49 AM >
| | | | I'll pretty much use any means to get in so long as it doesn't leave a noticable trace or create too much noise. Have slipped locks on an abandoned structure (ie: metal ruler/flatblade between door jam to push bolt aside), and used a couple of carabiners to hold a few layers of barbed wire together so they could be covered with a towel to climb over, but that's about as malicious as I could ever get. As soon as you create damage, in my opinion, you cannot consider yourself an urban explorer - you are in the same realm as taggers. "Leave only footprints, take only memories" as they say.
If a building is too tightly secured, I may check back every now and then to see if someone with a little less respect has perhaps broken a window or kicked a door in. More often than not it does happen.
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gneithamer1
location:
Boston, MA
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 131 on 3/11/2011 11:50 PM >
| | | | I have no problem with destroying something to enter a location as long as it is not not originally part of the location. Stuff like barbed wire, pad locks, and window boards are just ways to keep people out, and not something that deserves the respect that the actual location does. I will not break window, kick down doors, or otherwise break an original part of the location though. I came to get in, and I will as long as there is a way without destroying something that has history.
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barefootpoetry
location:
PA
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 132 on 3/31/2011 10:02 PM >
| | | | This one time, this person I know, who is not me, dislodged a glass panel to a back door to reach inside and unlock it by peeling off caulk and pulling the panel free. Turns out, what this person thought was an abandoned house was NOT. I - I mean, this person - will probably not attempt to open any locked doors again for a while.
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Loki
location:
Melbourne, Australia
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 133 on 3/31/2011 11:37 PM >
| | | | Posted by barefootpoetry
This one time, this person I know, who is not me, dislodged a glass panel to a back door to reach inside and unlock it by peeling off caulk and pulling the panel free. Turns out, what this person thought was an abandoned house was NOT. I - I mean, this person - will probably not attempt to open any locked doors again for a while.
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I've done the exact same thing, except it was my parent's house
Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank |
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Therrin
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North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
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<Reply # 134 on 4/3/2011 5:12 AM >
| | | | Boltcutters
Cutting torch
Winch
Sawsall
Crowbar
Shovel
Explosives
Steel toe boots
Line? What line? Are you getting in or aren't you?
Quit fucking around and DO IT, DAMMIT!
(Note: the above is for educational and thought-provoking purely theoretical use only. Very few animals were harmed in the making of this post)
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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Omelette
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 135 on 4/4/2011 2:52 AM >
| | | | I absolutely never leave any evidence of my explorations. I'll do just about anything to get in somewhere as long as it doesn't damage anything. It seems like at least 60% of the time, there is a way to bypass a locking mechanism, or the door entirely.
Once we wanted into one floor of a building, but were unsuccessful. We were however successful in getting into the floor above. The bottom floor was 2 stories tall, and the floor we got into was pretty small, almost like a box suspended in the bottom floor. Anyways, we went through a hole in the back wall and scaled down some pipes into the bottom floor, bypassing all entrances to the bottom floor entirely.
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logtec
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Logtec is the UER representative for Scarborough, Ontario.
Gender: Male
Nice head, what's in the bag?
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<Reply # 136 on 4/4/2011 3:58 AM >
| | | | classic "logtec styles" is right before the line...
never aided by any tools- only pure strength.
[last edit 4/4/2011 3:59 AM by logtec - edited 1 times]
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xFRITOx
location:
Saint Paul
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 137 on 4/7/2011 4:47 AM >
| | | | the worst ive done is pull off a loose board over a window and then pry open a rusty metal window frame that was held shut with one of those ramset nails. i wasnt going to let a a nail and a piece of plywood keep me from getting into a place. but after i left i shut the window and placed the board back over it to look like it was still screwed shut.
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Therrin
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North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
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<Reply # 138 on 4/8/2011 6:48 AM >
| | | | TL;DR version of this thread:
A) I climbed to the second story, cuz I'm a fucking ninja like that.
 I pulled the board off and put it back afterwards, and like oh em gee, you couldn't even tell!
C) I'm a fucking ghost, nothing is left behind, not even footprints.
D) Oh whoops it wasn't really abandoned
E) Smash that shit, mofuckas!
F) I use tools but repair the area
G) If a cat knits a sweater in a box, and noone sees it, it doesn't mean the cat actually knows how to knit.
H) Since I'm a master of analytical deductions, I'll break anything that wasn't original construction of the structure; whether "original" was 100 years old, or just 2.
H(sub1) Anything secondary to the primary structure, upon destruction, shouldn't count as B&E, because it wasn't ORIGINAL. Breaking such things to obtain entry is the justified right of an explorer; and anyone who doesn't understand this is an idiot.
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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TicTac
location:
Philly
Gender: Male
| | Re: Where do YOU draw the line? (POE)
<Reply # 139 on 4/10/2011 12:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by auto-tecumseh
i suppose if i had to, i would use my taekwondo ninja skills to climb to a very inaccessible place and create a POE, then very few people would be able to get in that POE, but they might just make their own
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Sorta did this recently, but we had to climb out of necessity.
I may have already posted in here, but I don't like opening anything I can't shut again. For example, after climbing up there was a door that opened into the building. On the outside was a cross-bar with bolts holding the door shut. We took the bolts out, but the knob of the door was still sticking on the bar.
So we whacked it off with a handy-dandy fire extinguisher, and firmly rebolted the door when we left. If someone else is willing to climb 15ft up the side of a building and do the same, as far as I'm concerned they deserve to get into the building.
The Viaduct runs through the Callowhill Loft District, which is overrun with hipsters. This is just another one of those things a hipster would probably do.
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