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Free Baller location: New Jerssey Gender: Male I have a friend in Jesus. Seriously, Jesus ate my friend. It was horrible. \|	Life in drains < on 8/23/2006 2:53 AM >

	Life in Drains While draining you may be lucky enough to encounter life. Some are familiar while some look like they are from a sci-fi movie like cave crickets. Most are harmless and are of no threat you even though they may look it. Cave cricket or Camel Cricket You will find these guys in drains that contain moisture year round. They are found at the openings usually and dont go much further back. Often you will find a large number of them at the openeing and be tempted to head back. Dont worry though they stay close to the openings. Sexing them is easy, The female has an ovipositor that resembles a stinger. In case you are wondering an ovipositor is used to lay eggs. Dont be afraid they dont bite or sting. They are larger than field crickets maturing at around 2 inches. They perfer the top of drains and they may drop down on you. If your not to afraid of them take a look some of the older ones may be missing legs, this is because when they lack sufficent nutrients they will eat their body parts even though they dont regenerate. Rats Rats are generally harmless, although a cornerd mother with babies will attack even large dogs. Rats get a bad rap when in fact they are usually docile and shy. You probally wont even see a rat unless it has nowhere to run from you. Bats Are mostly smaller than than the ones you'll see in the movies. I myself have never seen a bat in drain, but I have heard of them sleeping in drains. If you see one please be careful they are very fragile. This is another harmless one. Although there are Vampire bats they only feed on live stock and sleeping animals. Even though only 0.05% of bats have rabies if you are bit seek medical attention. Spiders We have all seen these and the vast majority of North American spiders being non venemous. In North America their are only two spiders you have to look out for the Black Widow and Recluse spiders. These spiders would perfer not to be in drains so it is not likely you will find them their. Brown Recluse Black Widow Racoons We all know this one.You'll most likely find them near drains in areas with shellfish, one of their favorite foods. Like most mammals do not corner a mother with babies. If the racoon seems sluggish or dazed stay away it may have rabies. These animals acount for half of all animal rabies cases in the U.S. If bitten or scratched seek medical help. Take this with a grain of salt. http://news.yahoo....mpaging_raccoons_1 More to come.... I Figured it was about time for me to make a tutorial of sorts. Ill be out tomorrow hopefully Ill get some picshttp:// [last edit 8/23/2006 8:08 PM by Free Baller - edited 4 times] Trying to win hearts and minds, but willing to splatter them if neccesary.

HillbillyHorus location: Charlottesville Virginia Gender: Male Im in ur government, killin ur d00dz \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 1 on 8/23/2006 3:01 AM >

	Nice. Thanks for sharing. Good to have another drainer here. You can't fall off a mountain.

res_novae location: NoVA Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 2 on 8/23/2006 4:18 AM >

	Sweet, you should probably throw in a Northern Water Snake, as I've seen a couple of them in drains and many people mistake them for Cottonmouths. The Daddy-Long Leg Spiders (not Daddylong legs) could be on there too. If I have time, I'll post a little as well.

Free Baller location: New Jerssey Gender: Male I have a friend in Jesus. Seriously, Jesus ate my friend. It was horrible. \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 3 on 8/23/2006 7:06 AM >

	Thanks for the kudos and tips guys. I didnt want to put in daddy long leg spiders as they dont harm humans. I am planning on putting in snake but I want to find more info. Added Raccons Trying to win hearts and minds, but willing to splatter them if neccesary.

res_novae location: NoVA Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 4 on 8/23/2006 1:15 PM >

	Thats the whole reason to put them, as they don't harm humans. Everyone thinks they do though. They do, however, make good throwable ammunition.

res_novae location: NoVA Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 5 on 8/23/2006 1:25 PM >

	The Northern Water Snake Oft mistaken for the Cottonmouth (picture below), the Northern Water Snake is a creature most normally found around the entranceways of drains where there are plenty of food (frogs, toads, fish) and plenty of access to sunlight where it can bathe. Generally, the Northern Water Snake will not bother someone, however, if handled, cornered, or thoroughly angered, this snake will bite repeatedly; even small specimens can break the skin. If bitten, thorough cleaning is recommended to prevent infection (I have seen it happen, please clean any animal bite), and although the snake is not venemous, it does contain an anticoagulant in its saliva. This is to help it when it devours its prey, as it is not a constrictor, the more blood loss its food has, the easier it is to swallow (usually while the prey is alive). However, this also makes any bites bleed more than they normally should. Do not be alarmed, however, as unless something strange, most bites are merely surface wounds and just require basic first aid (clean, pressure, bandage). Northern Water Snake-- Juvenile Cottonmouth Adult Cottonmouth-- To tell the difference, note the diamond/triangular shaped head of the cottonmouth, and also the black "robber mask" around the eyes. Also, the juvenile cottonmouths have a yellowish-green tipped tail, which is a very conspicuous giveaway.

Captain Obvious location: among the tank farms Gender: Male in ur xbox...there are midgets \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 6 on 8/23/2006 8:02 PM >

	When I was little, I thought that if I looked up the outfall of a drain, evil undead skeletons would come scrambling out and get me. Do imaginary evil undead skeletons count as life? Nov. 24, 2007--The city of Cleveland, Ohio, announces that it has developed tactical nuclear weapons, and does not wish to hear any more jokes.

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Re: Life in drains
<Reply # 7 on 8/23/2006 8:13 PM >

Posted by DanB
Do imaginary evil undead skeletons count as life?

absolutely, in fact in hoboken nj thats the only kind of life you'll find.

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Re: Life in drains
<Reply # 8 on 8/23/2006 8:23 PM >

Down here, you'll want to watch out for these guys

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they're pretty tame though, and will generally get out of your way. If you're close to a nest though, they'll get aggressive.

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res_novae location: NoVA Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 9 on 8/23/2006 11:38 PM >

	The copperhead is generally calm, but your less likely to find them around the outfall of drains. They tend to like more rocky/leafy terrain where there is more food (mice, small rodents) than watery areas. Thankfully, neither the Copperhead or the Cottonmouth are lethal. They can kill you, but it is VERY unlikely. If you get bitten, call an ambulance, go chill somewhere until they get there. Copperhead is easily identifiable by the diamond shaped head. And don't worry too much about nests, they give live birth, the kids are outta there as soon as possible.

Mickael Moderator location: Canada Gender: Male \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 10 on 8/24/2006 4:39 AM >

	Another form of life you could encounter while draining: The police officier. Often seen close to drain entrances when the guy across the street from the said drain entrance decide that you don't belong there, the Police Officier will usualy not venture inside a drain. Altough they don't bite or sting, they may try to arrest and/or fine you. Need forum-related help / Besoin d'aide reliée au forum ? Contact a moderator

res_novae location: NoVA Gender: Male \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 11 on 8/24/2006 2:14 PM >

	Remember, the Police Officer can be distracted by the following methods... 1. Hey, I got some donuts, want one? 2. LOOK THERES A BLACK GUY STEALING A TV! 3. LOOK THERES A MEXICAN STEALING A TV! 4. I have boobs, and I'm crying.

Factor VIII location: tu5t1n Gender: Male The Legacy \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 12 on 8/24/2006 10:28 PM >

	I was glad you put the bat up there. We have quite a few bats in the drains around us. Its quite scary because they don't fly like birds and you can't predict where there going to go. They fly really close to your head. I always think there going to run into me, they have their ultrasonic radar thing thing so they won't though. use the boost to get through

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Re: Life in drains
<Reply # 13 on 8/25/2006 4:13 PM >

And don't worry too much about nests, they give live birth, the kids are outta there as soon as possible.

Yeah, but I've had what I presume to be a momma come after me, After I got rid of her (swept her out of the drain with a tree branch), I walked past a bunch of babies. This was within the first 50 feet of an outfall, in the middle of the woods. It's the only time i've seen a copperhead in a drain, but it's proof that they can occasionally be found there.

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Re: Life in drains
<Reply # 14 on 8/25/2006 7:36 PM >

Posted by Free Baller
We have all seen these and the vast majority of North American spiders being non venemous. In North America their are only two spiders you have to look out for the Black Widow and Recluse spiders. These spiders would perfer not to be in drains so it is not likely you will find them their.

Around here at least, it's common to see Black Widows in drains. They usually hang out on the ceiling, and in the corners of square chambers.

Krawnik location: Kingston/Toronto Gender: Male Raiders of the Lost Architecture \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 15 on 8/25/2006 8:39 PM >

	Wicked thread, but two questions: 1. How big is a brown recluse spider? 2. What kind of spiders live in Canadian drains? (specifically Torontonian) If you couldn't tell, I want to get into draining, but I fucking hate spiders. I can deal with them in abandonments (I usually ignore them or kill them), but in a wet drain wih no lights and no room and nowhere to run like a girl, I wouldn't want to deal with them. Cheers, and again, killer thread. friggin' racists messing up my generalizations, also stealing my jobs, women. RIP, Ninj.

kowalski \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 16 on 8/25/2006 9:19 PM >

	You don't generally find a lot of spiders in Toronto drains, except around manhole shafts. You'll find a lot more in suburban drains, which tend to be shallower and to have inlets at the upstream ends into which aboveground streams flow. These conditions are important, as they promote a flying insect presence vital to sustaining concentrations of spiders. Toronto's drains are generally too deep and inaccessible to provide for a noticeable population of spiders within the drain itself. The other important consideration is the size of the drain. In general, as drains grow larger the ability for a spider to successfully support itself is reduced, regardless of the flying insect population. More drains in the suburbs tend to be of a smaller diameter favourable to spiders, while in the city intensive development has produced larger, watershed-replacing systems that are large, deep, cold, and shrink to nothing at their upstream terminus. Thus, few spiders, and few insects of any kind.

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Re: Life in drains
<Reply # 17 on 8/25/2006 10:52 PM >

Posted by Mr.Coffee
Yeah, but I've had what I presume to be a momma come after me, After I got rid of her (swept her out of the drain with a tree branch), I walked past a bunch of babies. This was within the first 50 feet of an outfall, in the middle of the woods. It's the only time i've seen a copperhead in a drain, but it's proof that they can occasionally be found there.

Most likely she was leaving the drain. The copperheads have no motherly instinct, and feel no urge to protect their young. The juvenile copperheads are born knowing everything they need to know to survive, and are very capable of defending themselves.

HillbillyHorus location: Charlottesville Virginia Gender: Male Im in ur government, killin ur d00dz \| \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 18 on 8/25/2006 11:25 PM >

	I once saw a scorpion. Scared the bejezus outa me, and it wasn't very encouraging for my friend's first drain. You can't fall off a mountain.

c1rc4 location: Northern Virginia Gender: Female \|	Re: Life in drains <Reply # 19 on 8/26/2006 12:11 AM >

	Water Moccasin This is one I've seen a few times in drains, and around them. This snake highly venomous and can be anywhere from 3 to 6 feet long. A young water moccasin is a pale reddish brown with transverse dark brown bands that are edged with white. Once this snake ages it becomes dull and olive or brown colored, and eventually to olive or black. Treatment for wounds should be treated right away as it can lead to death.

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