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grit1
 
location:
University Campus - Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Got Shear Line?
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<Reply # 60 on 10/11/2005 3:43 AM >
|  | | | I have a nextel that I've used for work in the past, friends etc ... I would love to use it for UE but none of the crew around here has another nextel. Good luck using them underground though, or in some institutional buildings with thick concrete walls - they're limited to the places cell phones work. I will admit that their "boonie" coverage seems to be better, considering their lower frequency but only a small improvement over regular cell phones.
The local walkie-talkie feature of some of the nextel sets isn't the best - I had a couple of fleet-based computer technician friends that worked at my former school district that bought a pair and they're not much better than FRS/GMRS.
~Grit.
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FoxTwoFoxTwo
 
location:
Clarksville, Tennessee
Gender: Male
I'm an explorer who photographs...
| | | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 61 on 10/13/2005 9:56 PM >
|  | | | Well, I personally use radios because I usually have my guys separate into two teams. 1 team to stay and keep a lookout has 1 radios, the infiltration team has one radio.
Of course, I do my UE missions into bus complexes, school roofs, and such so not much need going underground.
Also, to solve the problem of others hearing you. Just use silly or professional codes. They will think you are crazy and wont go near you, or think you're military or police and still wont go near you. Works for me anyways.
Bringing exploration to Clarksville.
Journal: http://www.uer.ca/...id=4&catid=2000173 | RUAUER!?!?!?111ONE??QUESTIONMARK | FoxTwoFoxTwo - "I just ordered a large. I have a relatively huge head so yeah..." |
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richardcranium
location:
Northwest Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 62 on 10/17/2005 5:13 PM >
|  | | | FRS radios work fine as long as you keep your conversations short and sweet.
Also, never use real names (of course you already knew that) and make up names for key locations. FRS radios are getting more powerful and less expensive with every new model that comes out.
If you get your ham radio licence you can get some powerful portable radios that can be modified to operate on some obscure frequency. Then you don't have to worry about scanner enthusiasts eves dropping on your transmissions.
And don't mumble.
"What?"
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Jonsered
  
location:
Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
| |  | | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 63 on 10/17/2005 5:46 PM >
| | | | For kicks, the old 19 and 21 channel CB radios can be had at garage sales and pawn shops for almost nothing. A cheapo battery rig is a snap to assemble, and an antenna can be ripped off of and old boom box or the like.
Advantages: cheap and much more powerful than you would expect, such as 20 or 30 miles.
Disadvantages: Doesn't work well underground at all, and signal can be picked up for 20 or 30 miles. Also can be a little heavy depending on the battery you choose.
I've got one of these for multiple day ghost town trips, and I'll try and shoot a picture and post it so you can check it out.
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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el nerdo
      
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
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<Reply # 64 on 10/18/2005 3:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by richardcranium
FRS radios work fine as long as you keep your conversations short and sweet.
Also, never use real names (of course you already knew that) and make up names for key locations. FRS radios are getting more powerful and less expensive with every new model that comes out.
If you get your ham radio licence you can get some powerful portable radios that can be modified to operate on some obscure frequency. Then you don't have to worry about scanner enthusiasts eves dropping on your transmissions.
And don't mumble.
"What?"
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Um, I have a scanner, and I *can* and *do* monitor those "obscure" frequencies, and quite easily...
And you're dead wrong about FRS radios "getting more powerful"... by law, their power is limited to a max of 1/2 of a watt (or is it 1 watt?)...
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SteamPunk
location:
Sailing the seas of sleaze.
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 65 on 10/18/2005 6:37 AM >
| | | | GMRS/FRS hmmmmm
I think the first 14 gmrs freq's are frs as well, and the other 8 that are gmrs, you can use up to 4 watts, (or something like that). Modified ham 440 MHz(70cm band) radios work best with the gmrs freq's put in them. they are better in that they do 4-6 watts, and have better (often hi-gain) "rubber duck" antennas. some are even "mil spec 810" (rain, shock, vibration, moisture.) You could perhaps even get a commercial 400 MHz radio, and get it programed for FRS/GMRS!
I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too! |
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 66 on 10/18/2005 9:32 AM >
| | | | Posted by el nerdo
Um, I have a scanner, and I *can* and *do* monitor those "obscure" frequencies, and quite easily...
And you're dead wrong about FRS radios "getting more powerful"... by law, their power is limited to a max of 1/2 of a watt (or is it 1 watt?)...
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Yep, they're half a watt. However, the first 7 FRS channels are shared with GMRS so you could, in theory, run 5 watts on channels 1 to 7. The license is a one time $45 fee from the FCC for GMRS.
Or, you could get a real radio, and be done with it.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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monki
location:
Sweden
Gender: Male
monki's climb better than ninhjas, it's a fact.
| | | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 67 on 10/25/2005 9:55 AM >
| | | | I use theese little babys, reach about 5km and i always bring them, so small they're never in the way.
its great for scouting around buildings looking for entrys or keeping watch so that no one comes, i wouldnt ue without em, never..
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hovburglar
location:
Salt Lake City/Sugarhouse
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 68 on 3/19/2006 10:30 AM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
VHF, Digital, Encryption.
Need I say more? 
-Ex
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oh SNAPS!!!! The Moto Saber!
I have a whole foot locker full of Moto gear:
UHF MTS2000, Securenet capable
UHT HT600
UHF MT1000
UHF SP50
Nothing beats a 2way for UE
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Brind
location:
Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 69 on 6/10/2006 6:31 AM >
| | | | I know I'm resurrecting a dead thread here, but it's better than starting a new one.
I'm looking to buy a set of radios, but I really want an ear bud headset to go with it, preferably with a boom arm mic. I've seen some that look pretty good, but I'm having a problem finding one that will work with VOX. All the ones I've seen are push-button activated. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Mongo
location:
Matamoras, PA
Gender: Male
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 70 on 6/10/2006 12:41 PM >
| | | | I would tend to look at something more along the lines of a throat mic for exploring instead of a boom mic. There are several advantages to them. Some can be set to pick up a voice input as low as a whisper, which is nice if you there may be other people around that you don't want hearing you. The other thing is that it is less likely to get snagged on something that you don't see when you are walking around in the dark. Just my $0.02.
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 71 on 6/11/2006 2:24 AM >
| | | | VOX can be a very nasty thing to have in UE. Most of my experience with VOX were not positive. The problem with most VOX is they come on and over shadow a vital piece of info such as, "someone is at the front gate." PTT has always been alot more useful in the end, and allows you to actually key up the system properly. Also not to mention people trying to talk and VOX loosing the first bit of info. This becomes vital when you have new people.
Also like Mongo said throat mikes are a beautiful thing. Even the low end ones now are pretty damn robust and can take a beating. THe biggest issue with them is setting them properly on your neck.
The upside is if you have to move through woods you wont have it ripped off as easily as you would with a boom mike system. Although you can still snag the earpiece if you dont tape down the wires properly.
Hope that helps a bit.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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nohbdy
Gender: Male
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 72 on 6/11/2006 4:05 AM >
| | | | i have 6 uniden 2 way GMRS radios, they were cheap ($40 all together in the clearance bin) but they work well for what i payed for them, even in buildings with a lot of concrete and metal they have always worked for me, i havent used them in any huge complexes but i have a feeling that they wont fair so well
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
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<Reply # 73 on 6/11/2006 4:13 AM >
| | | | VOX is worthless.. it's completely annoying to everyone but the person who activated it and all anyone can hear is heavy breathing and random cursing.. that and once someone starts talkin and the vox sticks on you can no longer use yer radios (you can't talk over someone els).. just deal with the PTT and you better off... My buddy ended up getting a throat mic that has a PTT button on a wrist strap thing, I think he attached it somewhere on his harness or something, but it's much better off then hearing EVERYTHING that person is doing
Then theres the thing mark was talkin about where theres a second or two delay in when you start talking and the VOX activates, which is also annoying because to use VOX you have to start speaking then restart talking about what you actually wanted to say..
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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Brind
location:
Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 74 on 6/11/2006 10:45 PM >
| | | | Thanks for the replies on VOX. Unfortunately, I'm completely clueless when it comes to this kind of stuff. I'll look into some throat mics. Any particular ones I should look for/avoid?
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
location:
South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 75 on 6/12/2006 12:05 AM >
| | | | Throat mikes aren't a must but if you look up throat mikes on ebay you will find the ones for your standard two way radios. Shouldn't be that hard. unfortunately there isnt much on the market and the really good shit is expensive.
If all else fails earpieces work fine, but I tend to tape them to my head.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
| | | | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 76 on 6/12/2006 2:11 AM >
| | | | My buddy ShinKen got a FoxFire Throat Mic, it works damn nice and I think it's around $30.. Clearly the military ones will be more rugged and the such but the FoxFire one is pretty affordable and works rather well.. I'd at least take a look at them.. Apparently he found another one thats pretty good, as soon as I talk to him and find out which one it was I'll update the post..
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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Pravus
location:
Chicago Area
Gender: Male
Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...
| | | | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 77 on 6/12/2006 2:15 AM >
| | | | The Stryker Tactical Throat Mic was another I ran across lookin for the other one he was talkin about
Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. |
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BMac718
Gender: Male
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 78 on 6/12/2006 3:44 AM >
| | | | Anyone have any experience/opinions on MURS radios? The VHF freqs should have slightly better range than FRS. (and great for pranksters that want to fuck w/fast food drive-throughs and the local Wal-Mart )
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Mongo
location:
Matamoras, PA
Gender: Male
| | Re: 2 way radios?
<Reply # 79 on 6/13/2006 11:15 PM >
| | | | We sell the ones from a company called Cobalt and have been VERY happy with them. We have several PDs and FDs using them and they take a hell of a beating. Retail on them is about $125.00 or so, depending on the radio adapter you need.
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