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<Reply # 20 on 1/28/2010 5:07 AM >
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those things are really bad for your rope they twist it a shitload and wear out the sheath
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| | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 21 on 1/28/2010 5:54 AM >
| | | | Posted by musket boy
those things are really bad for your rope they twist it a shitload and wear out the sheath
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Do they? I haven't bought one yet, but noticed his device was similar.
I have a Petzl Verso and Mammut Element 8; I'm saving up right now for an Ascending rig. I bought a Petzl Ascension but still need to buy a Croll, Quickfix, and Quickstep none of which EMS carries in store.
Ascender+Verso originally $98.54 -15% student discount and -$25 off $75+ gearbucks card ... saved 40 bucks there.
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Therrin
  
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Location: North of Chicago, IL
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| | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 22 on 1/28/2010 6:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by RailGuy88
?? Not understanding your question.
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Carabiners/mallions. What kind do you have to use?
They decided for my industry (arborist) you're required to use at least double locking automatic 'biners.
Because "people weren't screwing the screw-gates all the way shut and there were accidents".
So instead of correcting the thinking/improving training, they think they'll fix it with a "fool-proof" solution.
There's a few problems with auto's though:
1) People almost NEVER check to make sure they're closed properly.
2) If you get even a little bit of sap in the gate mechanism it can gum it up so it doesn't close and/or lock properly.
3) With most of the auto's, a simple sliding pressure against the gate (like sliding across a branch), or a downward diagonal motion will unlock double and triple locking biners.
At least with a screw-gate it has to be repeated rolling action against the gate to get it to do the same thing, and that's something you can at least keep an eye on.
This is why I get pissed off at OSHA/ANSI for "making up shit that sounds good", but really has no bearing on fixing the problems inherent in the industry.
/RANT =P
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| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 23 on 1/28/2010 6:31 AM >
| | | | Oh, auto-close/auto-lock. I've never had any issues with them opening or causing issues. Also, no trees in towers the last I checked, so no sap to worry about. 
I've got full-body harness w/ seat, hoards of d-rings everywhere, gear bucket, lanyards (Y and adjustable), taglines, and cool tools that I bought to go with 'em all. DJ Craig will testify to my crap. 
Going where others can't... |
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Therrin
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| | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 24 on 1/28/2010 7:02 AM >
| | | | Here, I went and snagged a few of my pics to show off some of my niffty stuff =)
http://www.uer.ca/...urrpage=1&pp#post0
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Intrinsic
Location: Collingwood
Gender: Male
| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 25 on 2/5/2010 4:12 PM >
| | | | Whatever you do, make sure your rope is solid.
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Ashes in the Snow
Location: Raleigh, NC
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 26 on 2/6/2010 4:35 PM >
| | | | ^^ Lol
I love how the camera guy just zooms in as these guys slide to their death hahaha
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| | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 27 on 2/12/2010 1:58 AM >
| | | | Fail of epic proportions =O
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| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 28 on 2/13/2010 7:29 PM >
| | | | nice thread!
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pkrearden
Location: Funkytown, TX
Gender: Male
| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 29 on 6/2/2010 12:21 AM >
| | | | don't forget the alpine butterfly! damned handy lil knot.
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SnuggleBear
Location: South Bay Area, CA [831]
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 30 on 6/12/2010 5:59 AM >
| | | | Also do some googling on using the prusik knot as an ascender if you're too cheap to buy an ascender, or might need to use it in an emergency.
^^Super proud of this symmetrical, redundant, no-slack, anchor onto some AC vents on a roof.
Deciding maybe it's not a good idea...
Don't ever use only one anchor to rappel off of. I have a special sticker to do so =P
My GF.
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brokkenladder
Location: Mount Vernon
Gender: Male
| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 31 on 6/14/2010 10:56 PM >
| | | | Awesome topic. Lots of good points all around.
One Question.
Could you use Screw Down Link Rated for 2200LBS instead of a carabiner?
I can get these at the local hardware store for about $2.50 a pop.
Any disadvantages you could think of?
I was thinking of maybe using these for the "permanant" links like anchor points and such. I will get some Carabiners for attatching to my harness and other "on hand" links. But I figured if its supposed to be locked and not need for quick dissasembly, why not?
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 32 on 6/15/2010 12:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by brokkenladder
Awesome topic. Lots of good points all around.
One Question.
Could you use Screw Down Link Rated for 2200LBS instead of a carabiner?
I can get these at the local hardware store for about $2.50 a pop.
Any disadvantages you could think of?
I was thinking of maybe using these for the "permanant" links like anchor points and such. I will get some Carabiners for attatching to my harness and other "on hand" links. But I figured if its supposed to be locked and not need for quick dissasembly, why not?
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Not as easy to place / remove (like you said)
Anchors = potentially bad idea: even 9mm rope is rated for double the tensile strength of the 2200LBs link.
I use them in my SRT setup, haven't died yet.
Mallion links:
Where the ascencion attaches to the sling and foot tape
The foot tape came with a link.
Where the croll attaches to the harness front tiein
Carabiners:
Where the torse harness attaches to the back tie in
Where the sling attaches to the front harness harness
The foot tape came with a link.
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SnuggleBear
Location: South Bay Area, CA [831]
Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 33 on 6/15/2010 8:03 PM >
| | | | What's the nerf vortex for?
Also I'd like to point out that this is what it means to have opposed carabiners:
Always set up your system so you are never depending on just one piece of gear.
Also, does anyone have any experience with Grappling Hooks, or some other similar device? I know it sounds kind of silly, but I'd really like to start climbing buildings like that. Many buildings have only roof access, and rather than pick locks or break doors, I'd love to get in through the roof, as most times in abandonments people forget to lock that (who would be crazy enough to come through the roof?!?! Uhhh... us.) I saw some folding grappling hooks that come with rope and like shoe spikes for about 50$ on eBay, I'd be interesting in getting one just for the hell of it, seems like an interesting thing to have. (I'm a gear slut, I like collecting gear and tricking out "the bag" with cool stuff just as much as I actually like exploring) Anyways I'm sure the rope it comes with is crap, I'd never use it to climb, and I don't need the silly shoe spikes, just the hook and a couple of ascenders and we could pretty much get anywhere...
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 34 on 6/16/2010 2:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by SnuggleBear
What's the nerf vortex for? |
http://www.uer.ca/...rpage=9&pp#post170
Also, does anyone have any experience with Grappling Hooks, or some other similar device?
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Good luck getting them down, if you can't up!
Edit: Just read the linked thread for all infos
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SnuggleBear
Location: South Bay Area, CA [831]
Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 35 on 6/17/2010 5:45 PM >
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OH MY GOD.
I thought that's what that might have been for, but then I was like, no... no one would do that...
That is so awesome. 10/10 good sir.
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vov35
Location: Maryland
Gender: Male
| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 36 on 6/30/2010 2:12 AM >
| | | | I shat brix. Now I need to find some not over9000 dollar climbing gear...
"Only sheep need a shepherd." -- Voltaire |
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SnuggleBear
Location: South Bay Area, CA [831]
Gender: Male
| | | | | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 37 on 7/2/2010 2:33 AM >
| | | | Posted by vov35
I shat brix. Now I need to find some not over9000 dollar climbing gear...
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acmeclimbing.com
Check out the package deals. Harness, shoes, descender/belay device, and chalk bag for like $120.
Or the same package without shoes for $65. I bought two of those packages, one for my girl and one for me, and I'm happy with them.
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vov35
Location: Maryland
Gender: Male
| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 38 on 7/2/2010 6:47 PM >
| | | | Posted by SnuggleBear
acmeclimbing.com
Check out the package deals. Harness, shoes, descender/belay device, and chalk bag for like $120.
Or the same package without shoes for $65. I bought two of those packages, one for my girl and one for me, and I'm happy with them.
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Thanks, but that's still not quite enough. A group of people on highschooler's budgets need to get four sets of gear and two 50 meter dynamic ropes. fffffffffuuuuuuuu pricing. Thanks for the tip though.
Speaking of which, is climbing gear rated by breaking strength of WLL like most hardware store material? (because dirt cheap 500 pound hardware store carabiners = 9kn breaking strength...)
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Man Underground
Location: Oz
Gender: Male
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| | Re: a guide to basic rope work
<Reply # 39 on 7/3/2010 4:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by Intrinsic
Whatever you do, make sure your rope is solid.
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Damn, that was piss funny, cheers
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