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1 2 3   UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Survival Kits (Viewed 5254 times) defrab  Location: Waterloo, Ontario Gender: Male  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 20 on 9/16/2008 9:06 PM >   You'd be surprised.. try it Posted by cary054 ... Ever try lighting a bowl with a knife? Not so much haha Will Olaf  Location: Wilmingon, NC Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 21 on 9/17/2008 6:22 AM >   My backpack is a survival kit and it's my EDC so it goes where I go. Being as I'm an avid climber I have my shoes in there with the rest of my junk. Bag contents- 50' dynamic rope chalk bag harness quick links 3 locking steel biners my descender several flashlights and spares kit with batteries, bulbs etc camera stuff integral camelbak with 3 liters of Gatoraid small med kit with compression bandages, super glue (it was originally designed for medical applications) bandaids of various sizes, neosporin some tp duck tape hat phone 50' paracord half dozen granola bars and some jolly ranchers All that shit is only 10lbs and there is lots of room to spare in the bag if I need to put in a jacket or poncho or whatever. My keys are their own survival kit with a knife, lighter and one of the multi tools I make. Under the insole of my left shoe are my lockpicks and $500 in $100 bills in a pills bag I get from the vets office which keeps the cash from being torn to pieces. Under the insole of my right shoe is a small knife and spare car key. This may seem extreme to some people but I've been of the survival/preparedness mindset for years. I can't feel any of my stuff under the insoles no matter how active I am and no one ever thinks to look in your shoes so if I want my picks I've always got them and they are never found if I get questioned. Regardless of what you carry it is always a good idea to bring a phone, water, some first aid stuff and let someone know where you are going and when you plan to be back. "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum" http://i22.photobu...er_zpsdbf6a059.gif sgt_pepper  Gender: Male  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 22 on 9/17/2008 5:57 PM >   Posted by Olaf All that shit is only 10lbs and there is lots of room to spare in the bag if I need to put in a jacket or poncho or whatever. My keys are their own survival kit with a knife, lighter and one of the multi tools I make. Under the insole of my left shoe are my lockpicks and $500 in $100 bills in a pills bag I get from the vets office which keeps the cash from being torn to pieces. Under the insole of my right shoe is a small knife and spare car key. This may seem extreme to some people but I've been of the survival/preparedness mindset for years. I can't feel any of my stuff under the insoles no matter how active I am and no one ever thinks to look in your shoes so if I want my picks I've always got them and they are never found if I get questioned. I like your idea of carrying stuff in your insoles quite a lot. I'll try it myself in the future. Does anyone else uses this technique? Hobbes  Location: Finland Gender: Male  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 23 on 9/17/2008 6:43 PM >   Posted by Olaf My backpack is a survival kit and it's my EDC so it goes where I go. ... This may seem extreme to some people but I've been of the survival/preparedness mindset for years. I'm a bit interested about preparedness as a way of life myself. This is a bit off topic, but I would like to hear if you or anyone else knows any good websites & especially forums on this survival and preparedness stuff. Please PM me if you think it's too offtopic. Olaf  Location: Wilmingon, NC Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 24 on 9/17/2008 6:51 PM >   Check out Zombie Squad, it's a great site with a zombie theme. The zombie bit is because we are zombie movie fans but most everyone there takes survival and preparedness seriously. The thinking is " if you can survive a zombie outbreak you can survive anything ". Topics normally are more related to first aid, things for your car if you are stuck out someplace and how to prepare your home and yourself when the unexpected occurs. Here's the link http://zombiehunters.org/forum/ "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum" http://i22.photobu...er_zpsdbf6a059.gif CaptOrbit  Location: Sarasota, FL or Cincinnati, OH Gender: Male There you are, right back in the jungle again.  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 25 on 9/17/2008 8:49 PM >   1-Streamlight 3C-XP (on a belt ring) 1-Streamlight Strion (belt holster, I carry this one at all times) 1 Gerber Recoil multi tool (belt holster, I carry this one at all times too) 1 Victorinox Swiss Army knife 1 pair deer skin gloves 2 pair disposable latex gloves A small canteen 1 small Red Cross first aid kit with neosporin Cat work boots or 16’’ Ranger fire boots A disposable lighter Cell phone Military Spec Some light snacks Various credibility props as needed (hard hat, safety vest, 800MHz radio, clipboard, etc.) I also sometimes bring Motorola two ways, but I usually don’t like getting separated enough from anyone to have to use them. Keys, watch, etc. The personal responsibility train left the station years ago, and you gave it the finger as you watched it leave. sword_fish   |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 26 on 12/4/2008 1:52 AM >   If its somewhere ive never been and is very unknown then maybe something small just incase. Aleksandar  Location: United States Gender: Male your darkest shadow, my oldest friend; the world's become ashes, this is the end.  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 27 on 12/4/2008 2:16 AM >   A survival kit, no in most cases. A utility kit with some related items, yes. Aside from obvious things like respirator mask and cell phone and etc: Water bottle Disinfectant wipes Band-aids Purell liquid sanitizer Pepper/CS spray Admittedly if I am going somewhere very remote, yes I do bring a trauma kit such as you can buy at an outdoors store. Freedom breeds war; and Peace, slavery. So it shall be forevermore: Men who love freedom buy it with their lives, and lovers of peace with their freedom. logic11   |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 28 on 12/6/2008 5:32 PM >   Posted by Hobbes I'm a bit interested about preparedness as a way of life myself. This is a bit off topic, but I would like to hear if you or anyone else knows any good websites & especially forums on this survival and preparedness stuff. Please PM me if you think it's too offtopic. The sort of biggest preparedness site is http://www.survivalblog.com You could also get some good info from Sharon Astyk (http://www.sharonastyk.com) on moving your life to a lower energy, more self reliant model. I have a couple of dozen others I read, but those are good starting points. Sand  Location: Pac South Everything interesting is always behind a fence.  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 29 on 12/8/2008 2:01 AM >   Posted by sgt_pepper What do you think about them? Do you bring them along for your explorations? In case one gets stuck somewhere, having some basic medical/food/fire means might make a difference while waiting for rescue. Depends on the area, remoteness, number of people involved, and of course, time planned for the explore. I always have nail clippers and tweezers, band aids, antiseptic wash, something I can use as a tourniquet, and various other items (more like comfort items, like bug wipes, sunblock, etc). That's not really a first aid kit. As far as lidocaine, suture kits, and all that - I don't bring that stuff. If I was going for a whole weekend out in the boonies, I would. I think Insainlysound uses duct tape to close wounds while exploring Mark  Very Noble Donor Location: South Carolina Gender: Male What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 30 on 12/9/2008 10:19 PM >   For the people on here that are saying, a Survival Kit is stupid, you probably haven't experienced much. We don't put smoke detectors in our house because we plan on one day catching something on fire, we do it in case something goes wrong. That said each kit on here has had good ideas, and some maybe bad ones. Survival kits no matter if your going to another country for a trip(yeah people do take them for a reason), or in your car are all designed differently. A good compact kit isn't about what you want if say your attacked by wild zombies, but what you should need given a situation. Most of you already carry survival equipment and haven't the thought process to realize what your doing. Just because it isn't in a kit for doesn't mean you haven't prepared. 1. Where am I going? 2. How far is help away? 3. What are the biggest possible issues I might encounter, and what will I need in such a case? 4. Are all the items I choose useful to sustain my life until I get help? Lets break this down just a bit shall we? 1. Abandoned places yes, but where are they? Are they near a town in a town? Most likely and helps probably close by. However if you look in the DB you will see people trekking sometimes 30+ miles from the nearest help, or hell even contact with civilization. Will I need woodland survival, or maybe spare money for a cab in case I sprain a ankle? This is the point of the question, which will help us fill in 2. Connected to the above, but more specialized. If your in a city you might be 2-3 minutes from a hospital, or a call away on the cell phone(KEY SURVIVAL GEAR IS COMMUNICATION). Maybe I will be taking a boat to a well passed by area? 10-15 minutes? Maybe a underground missile silo with no cellphone capability, horrible floors and miles from any place. 3. For the true urban exploration, a cellphone, a flashlight, and maybe some batteries should be all you need. Maybe some duct tape(good for medical and repairs) just incase you cut yourself bad. Hell maybe more, if you know what your doing (a person in Atlanta fell really bad a few years ago if it weren't in a city she might have died). I might need splints food water shelter, incase my vehicle breaks in the woods coming back from who knows. 4. The biggest issue with all survival kits is size vs usefulness. If you can carry a backpack full of kit, it doesn't mean you will want or need any of it. I might be a doctor, but that doesn't mean I am going to bring a defibrillator on a exploration in a city. Make your kit as small as possible and as useful. I hope no one gets hurt, but people here tend like society to forget pass events until they get in trouble. Don't be a idiot, bring what you need. Also don't be a idiot and bring more then you need and not bring it because it's to big. "If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" Assistance  "Run Away! It's an... um... Run away!"  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 31 on 12/19/2008 12:21 AM >   Posted by defrab They don't teach you how to light fire with just a knife anymore? Please enlighten us. Sometimes I wonder if my obsession with flashlights led to my interest in Urban Exploration, or conversely, if my interest in exploration led to my flashlight obsession Olaf  Location: Wilmingon, NC Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 32 on 12/19/2008 3:06 PM >   It's called a piece of flint and steel or a ferrocerium rod. "I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum" http://i22.photobu...er_zpsdbf6a059.gif shuzzi  Location: New Hampshire Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 33 on 12/19/2008 10:11 PM >   or one of this magnesium chunks you can buy with a flint sparking rod attached to it, it works very well example: http://www.cabelas...a&_requestid=22369 RochesterMNexplorer   |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 34 on 12/20/2008 9:24 AM >   Well i am a avid camper and hiker during the warmer months. Unless your going into abandonments in the middle of nowhere with no phone and no car you more than likely won't need one. But if you feel its necessary then look into making one worthwhile for your situation. A good book to read on the subject is "The encyclopedia of outdoor survival" which is all you need to know on the subject and more. Hope I helped and merry Christmas to all. While lifting up manholes, watch for old people. MidnightRaven  Location: Montreal / Eastern Townships Gender: Female Urbain Artist  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 35 on 1/10/2009 5:02 AM >   When I was a teen I had built a survival kit in a small Tupperware container. It was insane to think of all the stuff I had crammed into there. Fortunately/ unfortunately it was so good my cadet instructor kept it as an example for others ... Some useful things : -Safety pins/ bobby pins - Fish line and some hooks (more for wilderness survival, takes up little space and in return gives you access to a vast food source!) -Packet of peanut butter (or nuts , gives you a good boost of energy, also makes good bait to catch rodents) -Thread and needle (also takes little room and vastly useful) - Small mirror - Waterproof, strike anywhere matches - Whistle - Candle(s) -Space blanket - Zip lock bag(s) (to keep important things dry ie: matches, map ect) -Alcohol wipes, band aids ect other fist aid items -Compass - collapsible scissors/ multi-tool/ folding knife -wire , like copper wire any easy bending wire (can be used for a million things) hmm thats it for the top of my head now I have an urge to build a new one ... when i do i promise piccys Nevermore Chris Hansen  I'm Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. Why dont you have a seat over there?  |  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 36 on 1/11/2009 4:39 AM >   i would say just get a basic kit. it wont take too much space and even if you dont need it it will be nice to have. you never know what will happen while exploring My name is Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC's To Catch a Predator. Why don't you have a seat over there? leefypk  Location: Detroit Metro Gender: Female J. Valerian  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 37 on 1/30/2009 11:09 PM >   I always carry a small kit whenever I go exploring. You never know when you might need it. "Purity does not lie in separation from but in deeper penetration into the universe." - Teilhard de Chardin Pravus  Location: Chicago Area Gender: Male Now the two key words for tonight - "caution" and "flammable"...  |  |  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 38 on 1/31/2009 7:43 AM >   Something I was telling my brother to get for when he goes backpacking out in the middle of nowhere and something I think would just be cool to have is a Berloque Pistol.. The ammo is rather cheap, it's insanely small and lite and apparently will launch a flare about 100 feet into the air.. Not to mention that just firing the blanks could be useful to signal for help as well or even maybe starting a fire in a pinch.. http://www.berloque.com/ Granted I am 100% sure an actual flare gun would be better to signal for help, this thing is so freakin small and it looks like the flares would work fairly well as a signal anywhoo.. Live to Serve, Serve to Live.. defrab  Location: Waterloo, Ontario Gender: Male  |  Re: Survival Kits <Reply # 39 on 2/9/2009 7:00 PM >   Posted by Assistance Please enlighten us. My pleasure: You want a carbon-steel knife, I use my trusty mora (favorite knife for campcraft, second only to my Swedish forest axe). Get a stone harder then the blade. Then strike the back of the knife. Only downside: carbon-steel rusts a little too easy if you don't care for it. Will UER Forum > Archived UE Tutorials, Lessons, and Useful Info > Survival Kits (Viewed 5254 times)  1 2 3   All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site: UER CONTACT View Terms of Service | View Privacy Policy | Server colocation provided by Beanfield This page was generated for you in 140 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 741159588 pages have been generated.