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 MindHacker
   
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
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<Reply # 120 on 8/25/2009 5:03 AM >
|  | | | I don't know if this properly counts as eluding, but I eluded arrest, so I'm gonna say what everyone including me has said before.
Don't say anything. This is what they tried next, so you'll know:
They don't really care, it's not big deal.
They have enough evidence to arrest me.
They'll have me pulled in the next day.
They'll extradite me across state lines.
If I don't confess they won't be able to go easy on me.
Don't let them in. (I did. Give me a break, I was up for all of 10seconds when I answered the door)
They will look around at everything, which may include things that point to less-than-legal explorations. Possibly ask to have them. I lost half my fallen bridge-stalactite.
The cop I spoke to asked me to sit down, and then stood between me and the light, classic interrogation style. Not a problem, just be aware of it.
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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Juche
 
Location: Lincoln, NE
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 121 on 8/25/2009 8:22 PM >
| | | | Cops can be weird like that. If there is no problem, why are they threatening you with arrest and extradition? Moreover, if they have enough evidence to arrest you, why would you give them anymore by talking to them?
The thing is, the officer or investigator has plenty of experience in pulling info out of people. While you may think you can outsmart the officer, why risk it in the first place? Show how smart you are by being smart enough to realize your limitations: don't talk.
Moreover, time and again people fall for the "we'll be easy on you if you confess" line -- don't fall for it. The police are only there to arrest suspects and gather evidence, the DA or prosecutor does all the "easy" or "hard" treatment on you.
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rz350
  
This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information.
Location: toronto
Gender: Male
The looniest, zaniest, spontaneous, sporadic Impulsive thinker, compulsive drinker, addict
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 122 on 8/26/2009 1:40 AM >
| | | | its probably been mentioned, but lack of motion makes you much harder to spot then fleeing across open ground.
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Carrier_X
 
Location: Boston MA
Gender: Male
| |  | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 123 on 8/26/2009 2:33 AM >
| | | | Scanners are a good option you just need to know the police codes, the laws regarding them in the state you are in, be sneaky, don't do anything that would put yourself in jeopardy of being caught, don't have things that look suspicious with you, and act like you are supposed to be there. Those are the things that I have found help me while I'm exploring.
"I run with the hunted and if I’m not the happiest man on earth I’m surely the luckiest man alive." |
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MaxPower101
Location: Sydney, Australia
Gender: Male
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 124 on 8/28/2009 4:43 AM >
| | | | Posted by Thadius
I don't usually try to elude the police at all other than standing still. If they are there then most likely there has been a complaint and you have already been discovered. I usually walk right up to them and say hi and tell them why I am there. They feed me their mumbo-jumbo about the place being unsafe and the potential for injury and the trespassing laws etc. Then they let me leave.
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Agree totally..
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KimChi
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 125 on 9/2/2009 11:45 AM >
| | | | When I was younger I used to run. These days I'm up front if I'm caught, I'd rather be arrested and fully co-operate, than be arrested after a failed escape. The times I have been up front I've just been told to be on my merry way.
I don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread yet, but I thought it was worth noting about eluding police sniffer dogs. I read, that if you ran in figure of 8's the dog will be unable to follow you. I don't know how true this is or not, I don't know how big the figure of 8's should be, and I think it might be kind of a waste of time to do this when you could just...run. Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there.
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 126 on 9/2/2009 1:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by KimChi
When I was younger I used to run. These days I'm up front if I'm caught, I'd rather be arrested and fully co-operate, than be arrested after a failed escape. The times I have been up front I've just been told to be on my merry way.
I don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread yet, but I thought it was worth noting about eluding police sniffer dogs. I read, that if you ran in figure of 8's the dog will be unable to follow you. I don't know how true this is or not, I don't know how big the figure of 8's should be, and I think it might be kind of a waste of time to do this when you could just...run. Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there.
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| | | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 127 on 9/2/2009 1:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
Cop.
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KimChi
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 128 on 9/3/2009 4:38 AM >
| | | | Oh No! My cover has been blown!
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rz350
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Location: toronto
Gender: Male
The looniest, zaniest, spontaneous, sporadic Impulsive thinker, compulsive drinker, addict
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 129 on 9/5/2009 9:25 PM >
| | | | make your shape not stereotypically human. Splotchy clothes, adopt some weird positions, hide behind concealment.
If they really want you, they'll get you. But if they're not too dedicated, breaking the look of your human form up and being behind concealment dead still and silent can make them give up.
[last edit 9/6/2009 8:53 PM by rz350 - edited 1 times]
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zer213
Location: north pole
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 130 on 10/6/2009 6:23 AM >
| | | | anyone ever considered wearing a suit and clip on tie while UERing? Just dawned on me that wearing a cheap (read:thrift store) getup might actually help in keeping cops off your back. Man in a suit would surely not be up to anything bad. Someone in a hoodie or SWAT outfit would be a bit more obvious. And theres also "A client of mine is considering buying the place and wants me to get some photos" *pulls out faux out of state real estate card*
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MindHacker
Location: Suburbs of DC
Gender: Male
If you spot a terrorist arrow, pin it to the wall with your shoulder.
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 131 on 10/7/2009 6:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by zer213
anyone ever considered wearing a suit and clip on tie while UERing? Just dawned on me that wearing a cheap (read:thrift store) getup might actually help in keeping cops off your back. Man in a suit would surely not be up to anything bad. Someone in a hoodie or SWAT outfit would be a bit more obvious. And theres also "A client of mine is considering buying the place and wants me to get some photos" *pulls out faux out of state real estate card*
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Never a suit, but khaki's, button down shirt, contractor ID...
"That's just my opinion. I would, however, advocate for explosive breaching, since speed and looking cool are both concerns in my job."-Wilkinshire |
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arilem
Location: saskatchewan, canada
Gender: Female
Find me on social as @vanishedcompass @prairiepast
| | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 132 on 12/1/2009 8:39 PM >
| | | | in this province you can do one of two things:
a) tell them you were just doing photography and they will tell you that the people in that certain area are crazy and report anyone on their property- therefor you should avoid it (this happened to me)
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b) talk about the building and complain about how its set for demolition - they hate nothing more than a person with a camera going on about how the city is destroying a building
Oh! If the cops are waiting outside the building for you its best to photograph them and then wait until they leave - they will only stay so long
prairiepast.com
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Mr_Fiend
Location: Tulsa, OK
Gender: Male
Infiltration Expert...
| | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 133 on 12/4/2009 9:45 PM >
| | | | Posted by arilem
Oh! If the cops are waiting outside the building for you its best to photograph them and then wait until they leave - they will only stay so long
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This is by far the best strategy, I have done this several times. In some cases, they wont enter abandonments and I know they wont enter drains, (for safety reasons and tactical disadvantages) atleast the cops I've encountered wont. Just hide in some dark hole, you would be surprised how your patience will greatly outlast that of a cop, you have all the time in the world, and they will eventually get a call for a real crime and leave. If you are sure your going to be found, approach them peacefully. Your just trespassing, most cops wont give a shit after spending 15 minutes looking for you and will leave pissed and empty handed. Just make sure you spot them before they spot you, if they spot you, they most likely wont give up until your caught. If they never actually "see" you, all they have to go by is some nosey neighbor or person stating "some teens are up to no good in some building". For all the cops know, you could have left before they showed up. And they have no physical "proof" that your actually in there.... Bail ONLY when you know you wont be seen by them and are sure of your escape route. And if they have dogs, just give up, cuz unless you can make it to your car or are an actual ninja, police dogs will sniff you out and knaw on your arm until the police find you.
[last edit 12/4/2009 9:51 PM by Mr_Fiend - edited 1 times]
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Planar
Location: Ireland
Gender: Male
Kemuri
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 134 on 12/29/2009 6:49 PM >
|  | | | Unless you're absolutely certain you can get away, dump all offensive items you may have on you(knife, spliff, bible) and let yourself be caught. Though do not be caught dumping offensive items. That's disposing of evidence, and quite the crime
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tribeachpunk
Location: Halifax, NS
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 135 on 1/2/2010 9:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by arilem
b) talk about the building and complain about how its set for demolition - they hate nothing more than a person with a camera going on about how the city is destroying a building
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I can see this working out in my city. Our "you're destroying old buildings" people are particularly loud in Halifax.
Posted by Mr_Fiend
And if they have dogs, just give up, cuz unless you can make it to your car or are an actual ninja, police dogs will sniff you out and knaw on your arm until the police find you.
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I hope there isn't anyone reading this thread that doesn't already know this. 
Even if the cops just say they're getting dogs, you should probably give up.
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puravida9539
Location: Dallas Area
Gender: Male
Just give me a flashlight
| | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 136 on 1/22/2010 1:45 AM >
| | | | What good would it do to tell a cop that you were told by the owner of the property that you could check it out?
Is there any way that the police could verify who owns the property and if they had given you permission?
I mean, if you get caught kicking in a door or climbing out a window, you are going to have a tough time pulling that off. But if someone sees you walk in and the cop shows up, could just walk out and tell them you have permission to take some pictures from the owner?
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metawaffle
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 137 on 1/22/2010 2:03 AM >
| | | | Posted by puravida9539
What good would it do to tell a cop that you were told by the owner of the property that you could check it out?
Is there any way that the police could verify who owns the property and if they had given you permission?
I mean, if you get caught kicking in a door or climbing out a window, you are going to have a tough time pulling that off. But if someone sees you walk in and the cop shows up, could just walk out and tell them you have permission to take some pictures from the owner?
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Hmm, personally I wouldn't lie to the cops. I'm a poor liar for one thing, but really, if the worst I'd done was go trapsing harmlessly through private property, why risk being caught out lying to police? Just seems like an unnecessary risk.
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beatnik
you dig this jive?
| | | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 138 on 1/27/2010 9:27 AM >
| | | | A really good tip is a really simple one: don't ever carry anything suspicious on you.
If you have matches, firecrackers, spraypaint cans, or anything that makes it look like you're gonna break the law, they're gonna think you are.
But if all you have is your cell phone, a pair of gloves and a camera, then you could even BS your way out of it saying 'oh derp i jus wanted sum pix for a highschool/college project, i'm sorry officer it won't happen again'
Smiles and politeness, and also playing stupid will go a long way.
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Therrin
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Location: North of Chicago, IL
Gender: Male
*Therrin puts on the penguin-suit
| | | Re: Eluding Police
<Reply # 139 on 1/27/2010 9:40 AM >
| | | | I admit I haven't read through this whole thread yet. But I thought maybe I'd mention something that isn't overly well-known.
I do some personal protection work on the side, and we use motorola radios.
Our new ones are dual band, you can actually program them with the right software (very cool). So one button can be used to transmit over the frequency you're using to your buddies and on the other band you can listen in to whichever preset channels you've entered on the scanner channels.
Each saftey service has its own frequency(s) it works on, and they're public of course. So you figure out the ones in your area, and set them on the second band for your radio.
That way if/when you get caught, your walkie talkie is just for talking to your buddies. There's a VERY good chance they wont take your walkie talkie and check what 'ware you've got loaded on it and what specific frequencies you're using.
If this has already been mentioned, sorry. Otherwise, I hope it helps someone out there =)
Give a person a match and they'll be warm for a minute, but light them on fire and they'll be warm for the rest of their life. =) |
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