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Location: Providence RI
Gender: Male
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 |  |  |  | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 20 on 12/11/2007 3:38 PM >
|  | | | Posted by kowalski
This doesn't seem like a particularly well-established argument. If this were true, you shouldn't be bothering to show us your photographs at the end of every successful weekend, or in fact participating here at all.
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I share my photos in the photography section, where people go to view pictures of abandoned buildings. It doesnt mean I care what people think of how I do things. In fact, if I did care about the way people thought of me and the way I do things I would be more likely not to post because most people here hate the way I do things.
I climb stuff!
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don_corleyone
 
Location: F/RoX
Gender: Male
I have abandonment issues
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 21 on 12/11/2007 3:53 PM >
| | | | Posted by ryan
I share my photos in the photography section, where people go to view pictures of abandoned buildings. It doesnt mean I care what people think of how I do things. In fact, if I did care about the way people thought of me and the way I do things I would be more likely not to post because most people here hate the way I do things.
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w00t! quoted for truth. 
leave the gun. take the cannoli.
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Tupsumato
 
Location: Finland
Gender: Male
How close can you go?
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 22 on 12/11/2007 3:58 PM >
| | | | In the end there are no rules in UE, just widely accepted guidelines that some choose to follow (at least in public).
Chalkboards, if empty by default, are an exception from "leave only footprints" rule, since writing on them is not considered as permanent damage. A board filled with notes from past visitors also makes the site far more interesting than an empty one. However, if there's no chalkboard, starting a guest book on the wall is not the same. On the other hand, bringing a chalkboard or a notebook could be...
As for taking stuff, just like nomeus said, if you don't take it, someone else will. However, it's up to you to decide whether you want to be the last proper explorer to see the item in question or do you really need to "salvage" it, especially if the site is not being demolished or otherwise permanently destroyed. For example I have decided that it's not my job to save stuff from being destroyed or otherwise lost for good. Just seeing it is enough.
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micro
  
Gender: Male
Slowly I turned
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 23 on 12/11/2007 4:20 PM >
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ryan
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Location: Providence RI
Gender: Male
F/gayz
| | | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 24 on 12/11/2007 4:27 PM >
| | | | LOL
I climb stuff!
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 25 on 12/11/2007 4:30 PM >
| | | | Take only what you can get away with, leave only poo.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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seicer
Location: New York
Gender: Male
| | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 26 on 12/11/2007 4:34 PM >
| | | | I shit in abandonments all the time. That's the only thing I "leave" outside of footprints.
But seriously, I wish people would stop toting Ninj's book as the all holy bible to UE. It's only one person's opinion, and UE is what you make it out to be.
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 27 on 12/11/2007 4:34 PM >
| | | | Posted by ryan
You do what you do the way you want to do it and dont worry if its "propper" or if its "acceptable" We are just people on the internet we are not a part of your actual life, our opinions or views should not matter, and they should definitely have no impact on what you decide to do.
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If we didn't exist as a community, why do we even bother to post photos and opinions? You seemed pretty pissed off a few weeks ago when you said people/friends were making fun of you in some "private forum"....
As for the chalk board argument, as it was already stated before it does tip of security to your presence, and that can't be denied. That is if they are not dense enough to miss it.
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 28 on 12/11/2007 4:35 PM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
Take only what you can get away with, leave only poo.
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And chocolate bar wrappers & beer bottles.
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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SarahMcConnell
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Location: Philly, PA
Gender: Female
This is old school
| | | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 29 on 12/11/2007 4:40 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
If we didn't exist as a community, why do we even bother to post photos and opinions? You seemed pretty pissed off a few weeks ago when you said people/friends were making fun of you in some "private forum"....
As for the chalk board argument, as it was already stated before it does tip of security to your presence, and that can't be denied. That is if they are not dense enough to miss it.
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I enjoy making myself well known. I wish a giant print out of my face was plastered to the side of the white house
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hydrotherapy
Clever Girl
Location: Circle of Least Confusion
RPS is inside all of us
| | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 30 on 12/11/2007 4:46 PM >
| | | | I look for the largest, heaviest, most unmanageable items I can possibly steal and look for the smallest, least accessible point to get them out of. Ideally, I enjoy hauling my ill gotten heavy, gross, rusty theftables up multiple flights of stairs or up unstable collapses. Failing this, I will throw my new prize out a window and retrieve it outside. Anything I find actually is too heavy or unwieldy for me to actually extract from a location, I either burn or cover in spray paint to ensure no one else can enjoy it.
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manitou
Location: Mississauga/Toronto/Waterloo
Gender: Male
I was born with an inherent knowledge of every abandonment in the world!
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<Reply # 31 on 12/11/2007 4:50 PM >
| | | | Posted by hydrotherapy
I look for the largest, heaviest, most unmanageable items I can possibly steal and look for the smallest, least accessible point to get them out of. Ideally, I enjoy hauling my ill gotten heavy, gross, rusty theftables up multiple flights of stairs or up unstable collapses. Failing this, I will throw my new prize out a window and retrieve it outside. Anything I find actually is too heavy or unwieldy for me to actually extract from a location, I either burn or cover in spray paint to ensure no one else can enjoy it.
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QFT!
www.dkphotogroup.com
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shellyl
Location: Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 32 on 12/11/2007 4:58 PM >
| | | | Can't remember who or where I borrowed this from.
"There are some people who practice meditation or chanting constantly, reprogramming themselves and stopping rational thought, all day, every day. (Note that meditation and chanting can be good things, but phony gurus teach people to use them excessively, as mind-control tools.) "
hypocrite
Someone who says that they would never do something or never be like someone, yet turns around and does the thing that they say that they will never do.
You can be sure of living one lifetime. Go with what you feel is right and fuck all the rest.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
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ryan
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Location: Providence RI
Gender: Male
F/gayz
| | | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 33 on 12/11/2007 5:01 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
If we didn't exist as a community, why do we even bother to post photos and opinions? You seemed pretty pissed off a few weeks ago when you said people/friends were making fun of you in some "private forum"....
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They were not "making fun" they where speaking badly of me "making fun" is something 7th graders do on the playground to taunt others. And they were not random people on the internet they were people i considered friends.
I climb stuff!
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 34 on 12/11/2007 5:16 PM >
| | | | There is also some value is putting forth the front that the "ethics" are more prevalent than it might otherwise be.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 35 on 12/11/2007 5:24 PM >
| | | | It's like telling kids to stay away from drugs and sex and murder. You know they'll do all of those things eventually, you just want to help them resist the sweet temptation for as long as possible.
Mmmm,..... murder.
mutantMandias may cause dizziness, sexual nightmares, and sleep crime. ++++ mutantMandias has to return some videotapes ++++ Do not taunt mutantMandias
mutantMandias is something more than human, more than a computer. mutantMandias is a murderously intelligent, sensually self-programmed, non-being |
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SarahMcConnell
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Location: Philly, PA
Gender: Female
This is old school
| | | | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 36 on 12/11/2007 5:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
It's like telling kids to stay away from drugs and sex and murder. You know they'll do all of those things eventually, you just want to help them resist the sweet temptation for as long as possible.
Mmmm,..... murder.
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murder?
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Sirber
Location: Québec, QC
Gender: Male
everything wasn't good
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 37 on 12/11/2007 5:33 PM >
| | | | Posted by micro
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LOL!!!!!
"Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god." — Sir Francis Bacon |
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LunarLumen
Location: Merrimack Valley, Massachusetts
Gender: Male
What Are You Looking At?
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 38 on 12/11/2007 6:43 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
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As for the chalk board argument, as it was already stated before it does tip of security to your presence, and that can't be denied. That is if they are not dense enough to miss it.
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I agree!
So what is the big deal about writing on a blank chalkboard, notebook, dusty table or floor, wall (vandalism), window (vandalism), etc. The big deal is that next time you or another UE buddy shows up, the place will be locked up tighter, and security personnel will be looking out for you. I agree with Air 33 on this.
What makes us so special that we can write, erase, alter, or destroy an urban site, or erase the words and ideas left behind by those associated with the site? Why not just enjoy a site just with our eyes and presence? I lose no sleep over hearing that police arrested "so and so" for vandalising an abandoned site or location. Good, let them leave a postcard that they visited the local jail if they are so inclined to write/alter something.
I've easily stopped exploring with some who I have known vandalized in the past, or have said they've done it. I don't need them, nor do I need the added pressure of looking over my shoulder for the police just because I'm exploring with an idiot. Doing so takes away the enjoyment of exploring.
I'm going hunting for mysteries. Where's my flashlight?
Don't Like Clowns who Vandalize, B&E, and Steal from Sites.
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: "Take only pictures, leave only footprints."
<Reply # 39 on 12/11/2007 7:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by ryan
They were not "making fun" they where speaking badly of me "making fun" is something 7th graders do on the playground to taunt others. And they were not random people on the internet they were people i considered friends.
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C'mon. Most of the time what goes on here is the same grade 7 rumor mill or people throwing sand into each others face. I don't ever remember kids acting silly and dumb in the sandbox, it only seems that people get worse with age.
As for throwing stolen items out the window, please think of the children and only aim furniture at overzealous security guards.
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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