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 Basic Black
Location: Southern Ontario
Gender: Male
Jumps from perfectly good airplanes.
 |  | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 60 on 12/4/2003 11:35 PM >
|  | | | Posted by Ninjalicious
Asylunt: I've never seen anything that suggests that O2 is a liar. As for being a bragging know-it-all, well, that describes half the people on the board.
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Very well spoken, but how 'bout that topic?...
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O2
This member has been banned
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 61 on 12/5/2003 12:42 AM >
|  | | | This digital camo sounds like a load of bull to me...
When I first noticed you all talking about it I thought you meant some kind of increadibly unwieldy computerized camouflage thing that makes you go invisible or something...
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Mark
     
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 62 on 12/5/2003 1:04 AM >
| | | | It works. I dont like it because up close you see it almost imediatly. However combat wise its great. It fucks with night vision and works at a distance of about 20 yards like no other. Just not a UE product I would personally recomend.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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nightshadow
Location: Western PA
Gender: Male
Simpsons FTW. Anyhow...
| |  | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 63 on 12/8/2003 9:07 PM >
| | | | Just tagging this at the end of the thread, but does anyone use camo facepaint (3 shades or whatever) or does anyone think that's too much?
I don't use any, but I thought this is still an on-topic question.
"One only needs two tools in life: WD-40 to make things go, and duct tape to make them stop."
"That only works in movies, you idiot." |
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Shane
Moderator
Location: Bronx, NY
Gender: Male
| |  |  | |  | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 64 on 12/8/2003 9:19 PM >
| | | | Camo face paint isn't too practical for UE. Mainly, it is difficult to get off quickly, so if caught you will have a hell of a time explaining yourself. I also don't imagine that it's extremely comfortable.
*typo*
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"Because there's no possibility of real disaster, real risk, we're left with no chance for real salvation. Real elation. Real excitement. Joy. Discovery. Invention. The laws that keep us safe, these same laws condemn us to boredom. Without access to true chaos, we'll never have true peace. Unless everything can get worse, it won't get any better." -Chuck Palahniuk |
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 65 on 12/8/2003 10:59 PM >
| | | | I dont use it often. Mainly beause its hard to remove. Generally not good for high urban areas. However I have used it for consturction sites and other areas. Pleacses with high wood content. If you guys paint your face here is two things to remeber. Cover everything into your hairline. Cover your eyelids. Cover your ear and the backside. It just adds to the wont get seen by a dumb manuver.
"If the threat level goes up its probably because of me." "I am looking for a girl who enjoys headbutting beltbuckles" |
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-=Kid-Sparkle=-
Location: -=HERE=-
Gender: Male
-=8=-
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 66 on 12/9/2003 11:16 PM >
| | | | When friends and I go out exploring, we usually just tend to wear dark colors. I don't think we have ever worn camo but one thing I have noticed is: know your clothign before you explore
The reason I say that is because my friend Chris put ona dark blue sweatshirt of his with a maroon stripe (both colors listed as a good color), and when we were sneakign around under the street lights (dumb lol) we seen that the sleeves had a reflective strip down both sides. We weren't UE'ing...just spraying Pam on the windows of our managers blazer lol (april fools). He has worn the same throw over sweatshirt when we were hiding in a cow field/ pasture (no poop on the ground lol) across from another friends Trailer.
Bright colored shoes can blow your cover (shoelaces included), wrist watches of bright colors/ stainless steel, even eye glasses (this sucks for me), as could skin color. I wear a black (faded toa dark grey) Carhartt hooded winter coat (int he fall/winter) that darkens me pretty well and If a light is being shined toward me I will hust pull the hood over my head and look downwards. THe only killer on the coat is the duct tape I recently added to the pockets (to outline the seams..woops)
-jake
"Being frightened is an experience you can't buy."
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Caenos
Location: Winnipeg, Mb
Gender: Male
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 67 on 12/10/2003 4:11 AM >
| | | | Camo face paint is NOT used to make a face blend in with the environment, it is in fact to try and 'flatten' the shape of the face, so when seen in dim lighting it will not be recognised as a face at all.
This is accomplished by applying small amounts of light camstick to less protruding parts of the face, and any concave parts of the face. The protruding parts of the face have large amounts of dark camstick, switching the position of the shadows and lighter portions of the face.
As for the removal of camstick, your best bet is one of those one use 'deep cleaning' makeup remover wet-napish things (not to use terms that are TOO technical).
Also, Isypropanol(sp?) 99% seems to work well, but 70% doesn't seem to do much.
BTW, should you come across NATO (Cdn/Amrcn/Brtsh) two colour cam made before 1995, that is in the form of a double sided, two colour camstick, be advised that it likely contains heavy metals and is suspected to cause cancer. (but what doesn't, nowadays?)
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General cam/concealment tip -
weather silencing zippers or metal pieces on a jacket, or covering a reflective stripe on a backpack... Black hockey tape is MY best friend.
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I wonder whats behind THAT door? |
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mike-o
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Wake up little penguin... Penguintopia's open to the public
| | | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 68 on 12/13/2003 12:23 AM >
| | | | To all you people that claim to need Camo in your exploring adventures, maybe you should rethink your locations and go somewhere thats abandoned instead of tresspassing a heavily guarded site. I mean if you want to go in there that badly, then by all means suit up into your digital camouflage or whatever and have fun... it just doesn't seem like its worth the risk to see something abandoned attatched to a police K-9 unit or something like that, and otherwise there's no use for camo other than to attract unwanted attention or suspicion.
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UER is a great idea and I love the LDB... but this forum sucks my ass. later |
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Jester
Location: Vancouver,B.C. Canada
Gender: Male
Always just out of sight...
| | | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 69 on 12/13/2003 1:29 AM >
|  | | | Mike-O. I can walk down the street in my camo and not get a second look. Every trendy store in town is selling camo right now for men and women. So I don't get any unwanted attention or suspicion.
As for rethinking what I do... Why ? Because you think I should ? I don't think I should, I enjoy the way I do my exploration. There are places I couldn't see otherwise, and I want to see them. Just because it isn't worth the risk to you, does not mean the same holds true for me. You do your thing your way, and I'll do mine my way.
It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf. |
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Asylunt
Location: MPLS
Gender: Male
The Friendly Beer!
| | | | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 70 on 12/13/2003 2:24 AM >
| | | | That's an odd statement Mike-O, I mean what compelled you to post that? I'm not trying to argue, just curious why you feel that you needed to post that, the way a person explores is up to them. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me flightsuits suck or some shit, well THEY DON'T, They ROCK so Friggin much you'll never know.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest, I have insecurities about my flightsuit.
But I was serious when I said I was curious why you chose to make that statement out of the blue.
Asylunt
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain |
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mike-o
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Wake up little penguin... Penguintopia's open to the public
| | | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 71 on 12/13/2003 6:03 PM >
| | | | I guess so, have fun... I have nothing against people suiting up so they feel like GI Joe or whatever, it just makes UE look bad.
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UER is a great idea and I love the LDB... but this forum sucks my ass. later |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 72 on 12/13/2003 8:43 PM >
| | | | maybe it makes your preconceived notions of what UE is look bad, but the truth is that urban exploration is a much more broad term than most people consider it to be.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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mike-o
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Wake up little penguin... Penguintopia's open to the public
| | | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 73 on 12/13/2003 9:02 PM >
| | | | I know, in fact, UE is way to broad a term. I don't think UE should include activity like this, this falls more under a name like infiltration or something along those lines, not exploring.
UER is a great idea and I love the LDB... but this forum sucks my ass. later |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 74 on 12/13/2003 9:04 PM >
| | | | this is a heavily trodden topic, but it's generally accepted that urban exploration encompasses all other activities, including infiltration, tunneling, urban photography, vadding, etc.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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mike-o
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Wake up little penguin... Penguintopia's open to the public
| | | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 75 on 12/13/2003 9:21 PM >
|  | | | ...well then I don't have a problem with this kind of stuff, just the term UE. Who invented the term UE anyway, how long has it been around? It seems to me that it is not as well developed as it could be, or maybe this forum should have a seperate section for UE related topics and UE tutorials and lessons... having topics talked about at such length under "tutorials, lessons" like camouflage, lockpicking etc. doesn't make sense, but i guess this is a topic for another thread
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UER is a great idea and I love the LDB... but this forum sucks my ass. later |
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MacGyver
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Gender: Male
"Someone go find me a paperclip, a D-cell battery, and a cheese grater"
| | Re: Camouflage
<Reply # 76 on 12/13/2003 11:41 PM >
| | | | I've pondered the meaning of urban exploration and the details of it too, but then my head started to hurt so I grabbed my camera and a flashlight and went outside in search of something; anything; to get into. I think people overanalyze things and tend to talk more than they like to get grubby.
Like a fiend with his dope / a drunkard his wine / a man will have lust for the lure of the mine
"If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent." |
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