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 Dougo
 
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Location: Victoria, Australia
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 20 on 8/19/2012 10:16 AM >
|  | | | Funny how no one has ever asked the same question about entering an abandoned Catholic Church.
My wife is an Anglican and with her family's church it's hard to tell if it's abandoned or not (there are so few of them).
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MonkeyPunchBaby
     
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<Reply # 21 on 8/19/2012 11:09 AM >
| | | | Its abandoned, it doesn't hold any significance anymore. Explore it with the same respect you do any other buildings. But if you go in there and wipe your ass with a Yarmulke and use the menorah as a sex toy, then you would be crossing the line.
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BeowulfBrower
Location: Mendota, IL
Gender: Male
Profession Tetanus Shot Receiver
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 22 on 8/19/2012 3:54 PM >
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And this is why we can't have nice threads.
To answer the OP, there is no prohibition in Talmud Torah about entering an abandoned synagogue, but wearing a head covering might be respectful. I'm interested to see it! Synagogues often have some beautiful architecture.
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buddykermit
Location: Mid Atlantic
Gender: Male
"hey dude watch this"
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 23 on 8/19/2012 4:51 PM >
| | | | if you must explore it make sure to wear a little jew hat out of respect!
heres how i see it- being a man of science and reason ALL religions are wrong. the main players now days are christianity, islam, and judaism. we arent allowed to criticize those 3 but we all realize how dumb scientology & mormonism are and shit on them regularly. well to me the main 3 are equally retarded and clearly 100% made up. zeus was once the god of gods and now we see a few years later that it was all bs. one day the main 3 religions now will be out of style as well.
i respect anyones right to believe whatever they want but also reserve the right to think they are wrong. kind of rambling here... i guess the point i was making is what does it matter if it was a synagog, church, temple etc. if you were walking around some old kool-aid drinking cults building you wouldnt be thinking the same way about being there. and judaism, christianity & islam are all the same thing IMO and deserve the same level of indifference.
church - ok to explore
temple or synagog - ok to explore
cult places - ok to explore
islam mosque - ok to explore
in slc? - ok to explore
in summary feel free to go to anywhere you want. who cares really? as long as your intentions are pure go for it.
When one man, for whatever reason,
has the opportunity to lead an extraordinary life,
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Weirdlig
Gender: Female
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 24 on 8/19/2012 8:24 PM >
| | | | Posted by Captain_Slow
But couldn't one argue using the exact same logic by saying if you don't like my reply, don't read it and move on?
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Certainly true, it's just a matter of what comments are more brash. I could say any irrelevant thing I feel in this thread, but posting some negative thing just as irrelevant about the OP's faith is also offensive. To some, hurtful.
I don't follow the Jewish religion...I don't follow any religion. I could never imagine life like that nor could anything cause me to desire it...but I try to think that it's just not my religion--not that it's wrong.
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SuchundFind
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 25 on 8/20/2012 12:14 AM >
| | | | Posted by buddykermit
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but if you choose to disagree with science and believe in god thats your choice. having said that i think you are 100% in the clear to explore it regardless of religion- just leave it in the same condition you found it
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Does this mean that people that believe in god can't believe in science?
Or can't scientists not believe in God?
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McNulty
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Location: MD/PA
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I am Dr. Kirkbride
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 26 on 8/23/2012 11:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by Starman
Don't worry. God isn't real. So I'm sure he won't mind you checking out the place.
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We got a religion forum for this sort of chatter son.
[last edit 8/23/2012 12:01 PM by McNulty - edited 1 times]
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MutantMandias
 
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 27 on 8/23/2012 1:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by McNulty
We got a religion forum for this sort of chatter son.
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Word.
Religious Discussion
But god doesn't exist in there either.
[last edit 8/23/2012 2:06 PM by MutantMandias - edited 1 times]
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SuchundFind
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 28 on 8/23/2012 4:52 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
But god doesn't exist in there either.
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It doesn't matter if god exists or not.
Don't push your believe or disbelieve in something on other people.
Everybody has already by law the freedom to believe in what they want.
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 29 on 8/23/2012 5:05 PM >
| | | | Really should be in the Religious Discussion forum, but...
Posted by SuchundFind
It doesn't matter if god exists or not.
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It does, quit a bit. People who believe in God think it matters. People who believe there is no god also think it matters because many people who believe in God believe it is their job to push their agenda onto everyone else.
Posted by SuchundFind
Don't push your believe or disbelieve in something on other people.
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I did not in any way do that.
Posted by SuchundFind
Everybody has already by law the freedom to believe in what they want.
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No, they have that freedom simply as an aspect of being a human being. Although some might phrase a that as being "endowed by their Creator."
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SuchundFind
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 30 on 8/23/2012 5:25 PM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
It does, quit a bit. People who believe in God think it matters. People who believe there is no god also think it matters because many people who believe in God believe it is their job to push their agenda onto everyone else.
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Obama tries to push his agenda on everyone else.
My neighbors try to push there agenda on everyone else.
People here try the same.
I don't see a problem with this as everybody tries to make others believe in their believes.
Common sense would tell us not to believe in everything we see or hear.
Unless you believe that Crunchberries are real berries.
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.
| | | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 31 on 8/23/2012 5:58 PM >
| | | | Posted by SuchundFind
People here try the same.
I don't see a problem with this as everybody tries to make others believe in their believes.
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I did not realize that expressing one's personal opinion equated to making others believe it.
Food for thought
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LT ZERO
Gender: Male
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 32 on 8/23/2012 11:12 PM >
| | | | Well this question should be one for a Rabbi not an plunker (explorer) to answer and i'm sure that the talmid mentions something about abandone property. You should post this question on www.askmoses.com
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McNulty
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Location: MD/PA
Gender: Male
I am Dr. Kirkbride
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 33 on 8/24/2012 1:41 AM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
It does, quit a bit. People who believe in God think it matters. People who believe there is no god also think it matters because many people who believe in God believe it is their job to push their agenda onto everyone else.
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For the record, on this forum I observe pretty much zero "people who believe in God believe it is their job to push their agenda onto everyone else". I do see a lot of people who do not believe in God jumping at every opportunity to say God does not exist and to mock and berate religious people. Usually this is brought on , like here, simply when somebody mentions the topic of religion.
It seems to not be the religious zealots being uberdouches here.
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MutantMandias
Perverse and Often Baffling
Location: Atlanta, GA
Gender: Male
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| | | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 34 on 8/24/2012 3:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by McNulty
It seems to not be the religious zealots being uberdouches here.
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Aww, don't be so hard on yourself.
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/-/ooligan
Location: Las Vegas area
Gender: Male
When in danger, when in doubt, RUN IN CIRCLES, SCREAM AND SHOUT!
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 35 on 8/25/2012 1:33 AM >
| | | | Posted by That_Damn_Cat!
In my town we have an abandoned synagogue. It's absolutely beautiful on the outside, and I am dying to take a peek inside.
However, as a person of Faith myself, I try very hard to be sensitive to the Faiths of others. I know nobody worships there anymore, but that doesn't change the fact that it was built to be a house of worship, and should be respected as such.
Are there any rules or restrictions that I should know of that would be in effect in a "living" synagogue? Anywhere that I shouldn't go, or do?
Thanks for any feedback.
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Do you worry about offending Jews by eating non-Kosher meat, and dairy products along with meat? What about eating non-halal meat in front of muslims?
You're drunk on faith, dude.
Actually, you're just trying to be really silly, as anyone who makes such a big deal about "Faith" wouldn't use the word damn in vain, as-in "That_Damn_Cat."
/-/ooligan the faithful infidel
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McNulty
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Location: MD/PA
Gender: Male
I am Dr. Kirkbride
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 36 on 8/25/2012 2:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by MutantMandias
Aww, don't be so hard on yourself.
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Hey, I'm just some bro calling it like I see it, and I see lots of people going out of their way to be condescending and flaunt their belief in non-believing.
See below.
Posted by /-/ooligan
Do you worry about offending Jews by eating non-Kosher meat, and dairy products along with meat? What about eating non-halal meat in front of muslims?
You're drunk on faith, dude.
Actually, you're just trying to be really silly, as anyone who makes such a big deal about "Faith" wouldn't use the word damn in vain, as-in "That_Damn_Cat."
/-/ooligan the faithful infidel
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Or he is just a guy who is trying to be respectful towards others? I know, its a crazy concept.
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Keaven
Location: 15 miles from the Grassy Knoll
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 37 on 8/25/2012 12:00 PM >
| | | | I think OP is "just a guy who is trying to be respectful towards others".
He asked a reasonable question and received some on-topic answers. A few others have gone off-topic and into an area for which there is a specific board.
If I wanted to debate "Does God exist?" I wouldn't be on this website.
Someone asked about Roman Catholic church buildings. There is a specific dedication rite for a new building, but no corresponding "undedication". Once they are vacant, they are no longer sacred.
"Canon 1212 Sacred places lose their dedication or blessing if they have been in great measure destroyed, or if they have been permanently made over to secular usage, whether by decree of the competent Ordinary or simply in fact."
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SuchundFind
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Gender: Male
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 38 on 8/25/2012 2:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by Keaven
Someone asked about Roman Catholic church buildings. There is a specific dedication rite for a new building, but no corresponding "undedication". Once they are vacant, they are no longer sacred.
"Canon 1212 Sacred places lose their dedication or blessing if they have been in great measure destroyed, or if they have been permanently made over to secular usage, whether by decree of the competent Ordinary or simply in fact."
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I know there is a church in Germany that was changed into some apartment buildings.
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Hotrodthug
| | Re: Any Jewish Explorers Here? I Have an Ethical Question.
<Reply # 39 on 8/26/2012 2:30 AM >
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This.
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