In parts of this country a gun is one of the best tools one can carry. There's still shit out there that can eat ya. They haven't passed any laws against bears and snakes an such.

Posted by dirt First, I didn't see any personal attacks. Second, TB's comment about compensations also applies to the criminals. You would have to have your head up your ass not to hear compensation talk in gangster rap. Third, DC has a point. I'm very nervous of a state that will try to take away a form of power away from the masses. An unarmed populace vs an armed state would just be terrible. When talking about crime and criminals, the more laws we have, the more criminals there will be. If things like pot, mushrooms and acid were legalized, the prisons would empty. "Criminals" would become respectable citizens. Then you go after the real dangerous drugs like meth and black market weapons. Why are there gangs? Drug territory. Why are there robberies? Drug money. Same with prostitution. You think that most prostitutes are saving up for a house and car? No. It's all drugs.

Dammit. I just agreed with Dirt again.

Posted by jeepdave Dammit. I just agreed with Dirt again.

Because I'm not a dirty hippie liberal. I just see the world for what it is, and try my best to think of a world were everyone has a place.

Posted by DevilC Why, exactly do you want to take my guns away? Please elaborate.

well.. I cannot say anything about you.

I can say that the majority of people that I went to high school with are royally fucked up and I cringe at the idea of them owning firearms. Same deal with college, now that I think about it. And at my job!

Not that I can do anything about this, but I would never trust most of them with a car, let alone a firearm.

Posted by jukebox fuckup well.. I cannot say anything about you. I can say that the majority of people that I went to high school with are royally fucked up and I cringe at the idea of them owning firearms. Same deal with college, now that I think about it. And at my job! Not that I can do anything about this, but I would never trust most of them with a car, let alone a firearm.

Lol and this is why you should own a few guns yourself. And dirt, never said ya was a dirty hippie ;) we have similar ideas but see the world thru different view finders.

Couldn't I say the same of automobiles or the right to procreate?
All the losers from my highschool are now cops . . . all the best and brightest ran like hell from RustBelt USA.
Guns reduce crime in the West - period.
Gun ownership has been on the rise just as crime has been on the decline.
Lawfully armed citizens are LESS violent and are LESS prone to be victims of crime.
A concealed permit holder? 1000x less likely to commit a crime.
Why must we debate this endlessly?
Really?
What's REALLY at issue here?

Posted by jukebox fuckup well.. I cannot say anything about you. I can say that the majority of people that I went to high school with are royally fucked up and I cringe at the idea of them owning firearms. Same deal with college, now that I think about it. And at my job! Not that I can do anything about this, but I would never trust most of them with a car, let alone a firearm.

Jukebox--- work with your legislature to ban cars. I mean if you don't trust these guys.

i carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
really. it takes alot of smarts to carry a gun. yes "we" are smarter than the average bear... we know when to and more importantly when NOT to carry.

i was just thinking of this... you can't teach people to use common sense... how do we expect them to understand, respect or use a firearm?

Posted by eoghan i've seen tat, so? japanese gangs use baseball bats and knives to kill with......switzerland and israel have near universal gun ownership, sooo eoghan

Then I suppose there is something really, really wrong with your country.

Posted by DevilC Couldn't I say the same of automobiles or the right to procreate? All the losers from my highschool are now cops . . . all the best and brightest ran like hell from RustBelt USA. Guns reduce crime in the West - period. Gun ownership has been on the rise just as crime has been on the decline. Lawfully armed citizens are LESS violent and are LESS prone to be victims of crime. A concealed permit holder? 1000x less likely to commit a crime. Why must we debate this endlessly? Really? What's REALLY at issue here?

cars & procreation- absolutely.

To say gun reduces crime is a bit tentative, given that existing evidence is mixed.

My psychology textbook (Berger, 2008) attributes soaring suicide rates to increasing access to lethal weapons post-1970, as well.

I recall reading a study where violent criminals admitted that, while 'selecting' a target, they are deterred if they have reason to believe that the target is armed.

Conversely, one study (Operation Ceasefire, http://en.wikipedi...peration_Ceasefire) does conclude that agency correspondence (ie. the feds working together with local authorities) can significantly reduce violent crime by confiscating illegal firearms.

I would consider the main issue to be enforcement, as in better enforcement of existing laws have been demonstrated through Operation Ceasefire (which has been replicated in different cities) as an effective means to reduce violent crime.

Why don't I have a gun? Well.. I will not purchase a gun until I go to the range several times with friends that own guns and know how to work them. I have no interest in owning a gun until I feel adequate in my abilities to handle one.

Not to mention the self defense laws in PA are a bit ass backwards. So I have been told, PA is supposed to adopt the castle doctrine soon

awesome story proving why we have a 2nd amendment:


"to the guy who mugged my girlfriend and i on monday night"
http://miami.craig...is/1539838256.html

Posted by don_corleyone awesome story proving why we have a 2nd amendment: "to the guy who mugged my girlfriend and i on monday night" http://miami.craig...is/1539838256.html

this made my fucking day.
outstanding.

Posted by don_corleyone awesome story proving why we have a 2nd amendment: "to the guy who mugged my girlfriend and i on monday night" http://miami.craig...is/1539838256.html

That just sounds very fake.

Posted by dirt That just sounds very fake.

probably, but i love the idea.

Gun control...Just another ploy to make my life illegal

Posted by NHUrbex Gun control...Just another excuss to be emo.

Posted by dirt First, I didn't see any personal attacks.

Gun users have small dicks, apparently.

Posted by Nvr2loud Well, if you have to register your gun at purchase, they can keep a balistics sample and if your gun is ever used in a crime, it can be traced easier.

But those marks change over time and follow the barrel, not the gun and can be changed.

Posted by cdevon1200 sorry for bringing up a very old thread... but. as i have a ccw and carry a big fucking gun everyday, having it is like having a seatbelt- strap it on every time you drive- and hope to god you never need it.

That's the truth. no harm in target shooting though ;)

Anyway, don't mind me picking through old posts. "Gun Control" like many other government programs, looks to my ignorant eyes like "Don't let people I'm afraid of have guns," rather than "limit gun ownership to responsible people." I'd prefer that gun use be taught in school than have it be either demonized or have kids taught that "Cool guys carry guns in their waistband."

Anyway, there's a lot of places gun control could go - it needn't be literal gun confiscation when everyone who bothered to dot every i and cross every t dies in a few decades. But I don't want most guns to be illegally owned by people with plans for them.

/ignorant rant

Posted by AnAppleSnail Gun users have small dicks, apparently.

Never said what they were compensating for.

look at england or irland or australia for examples of gun control.

or the i just found on google.com


http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=41196