Just trying to point out how regularly and overtly massively insulting and offensive things are done to members of religions, particularly Christianity, which somehow does not end in murder.

Posted by Soldat Just trying to point out how regularly and overtly massively insulting and offensive things are done to members of religions, particularly Christianity, which somehow does not end in murder.

Okay. And your point is?

I still see crazy Christians kill people because god told them to.

Posted by MutantMandias Okay. And your point is? I still see crazy Christians kill people because god told them to.

Point is you people all still seem to want to pretend there is not something about Islam which makes its followers so much more willing to do violence for their religion than anything else can compare to.

All those crazy Christians! You gonna link me to the like 10 people radical christians killed over abortion in the last 20 years now?

I guess Goodluck Jonathan should be held responsible for the carnage in Nigeria since he had the nerve to run for president there...

http://www.msnbc.m...42738147/42541621#

BAUCHI, Nigeria — At least 500 people died in religious rioting that followed Nigeria's presidential election, a civil rights group said Sunday, as volatile state gubernatorial elections loom this week.

Meanwhile, police in the northern state of Bauchi said at least 11 recent college graduates who helped run polling stations as part of the country's national youth service corps have been killed in postelection violence, while other female poll workers have been raped.

The Civil Rights Congress of Nigeria said that the worst hit area was Zonkwa, a town in rural Kaduna state, where more than 300 people died in rioting.

The Civil Rights Congress, led by a Muslim activist, said killings also took place in the towns of Kafanchan and Zangon Kataf, as well as the state capital of Kaduna.

Muslim opposition supporters began riots as results from the April 16 election showed Christian President Goodluck Jonathan had won the vote. Many here in predominantly Muslim north of Africa's most populous nation felt the next president should have been from their region because a Muslim president died last year before he could complete his term.

Retaliatory violence by Christians soon followed, and officials say more than 40,000 people have now fled their homes. Authorities are fearful that releasing any official death toll will only prompt more fighting, but witnesses believe hundreds have been killed across the north.

The violence also took a toll on Nigeria's National Youth Service Corps. Authorities are trying to assure members they will be safe for them to take part in Tuesday's gubernatorial elections being held in 29 states, though some have already fled their posts.

In Bauchi state, police have arrested 68 suspects in connection with the deadly riots that were sparked by the presidential election, Police Commissioner Amana John Abakasanga told The Associated Press.

Nigeria's National Youth Service Corps is a mandatory yearlong assignment for all Nigerians who graduate from university before the age of 30. Most serve as teachers, but the April national elections have brought extra responsibilities — and danger — to their work.

The founders of the program created it in 1973 to promote national unity in a country with more than 150 ethnic groups and to help reconcile Nigerians after a 31-month civil war claimed more than 1 million lives. By encouraging young graduates to explore new parts of the country, the goal was to dispel negative stereotypes.

At least four of the young poll workers were killed in Bauchi last week when an angry mob locked them inside their youth hostel and set it ablaze. The vote for governor has been delayed in Bauchi and Kaduna states until Thursday because of security concerns there.

Violence is human nature. Blaming it on any one religion makes no sence.

Especially since most of you have said in the politics forum that certain political individuals deserve to be killed because you dont agree with what they say/do.

So, like it or not, we are no better. All the stats in teh world and quotes form religious texts don't change that and you ALL know it.

I think we can all agree that the problem is black people.

Posted by MutantMandias I think we can all agree that the problem is black people.

I thought it was all non whites?

Yeah well... Not me = all the same.

THEY are the problem, not US!

As soon as THEY realize that OUR way is right then WE ALL can get along!

If THEY can't be convinced to act rationally/logically then THEY will have to be delt with.

Welcome to typical mob mentality. Insert proper nouns as you see fit and get your pitchforks and torches.

Posted by Soldat Today thousands of people will be participating in the Philadelphia Zombie Crawl, which mocks the Christan celebration of Easter.

The party theme list for The Compound (my home) is as follows...

Spring Party- "Night of the Undead Jew Carpenter!"-1st sunday of the kids spring break
E. Gary Gygax Memorial-March 4 (less drinking, much more gaming)

Summer-"Fuck You England!!!"-July 4
"Queens Birthday (Thailand)- Aug 12

Fall-One or two of the following...
"Dress Like A Whore Day"-Oct 31 (adults only/clothing optional)
"Bomb-A-Pol Day"-Nov 5
"Never Trust Whitey Day" Thanksgiving weekend

Winter-"Merry X-Mas!!!" (celebrated as on Futurama)- Third Saturday in December

If someone can come up with an entertaining theme that offends any other religions or countries let me know!

NOTE-This year, NotUJC is being replaced by "Rapture Party!" and one of the fall one will be "The End of the World!". Both brought to you by those twits at http://www.wecanknow.com/

NOTE-There has been a request for a "Nigger Monday" party in January. But since the person making the request, his sister and her GF would be the only black persons there we have pretty much passed on this theme. (What can I say, I'm a SCAdian, gamer, biker, gun nut Marine living in WV. I have a small number of black friends locally.)

Posted by underdark THEY are the problem, not US! As soon as THEY realize that OUR way is right then WE ALL can get along! If THEY can't be convinced to act rationally/logically then THEY will have to be delt with. Welcome to typical mob mentality. Insert proper nouns as you see fit and get your pitchforks and torches.

Are you talking about the US or the people who keep killing those who don't follow Allah?

Posted by maypost Violence is human nature. Blaming it on any one religion makes no sence.

Ignoring a clear correlation between an ideology and systematic radicalization and violence makes no sense.

People are violent, but ideologies have the ability to move people to be violent.

Posted by Soldat Are you talking about the US or the people who keep killing those who don't follow Allah?

Have you read David Scheuer's book Osama bin Laden? I think you of all people would get a lot out of it.

Posted by Soldat Are you talking about the US or the people who keep killing those who don't follow Allah?

THEM/THEY and US/WE in my post are meant to be replaced with the names of the group that is disliked by the speaker (THEM) and the group the speaker identifies with (US).

The point was that humans work more and more in this dangerously simplified mindset the more of them you get in a group. The deadpan, sarcastic delivery must be what sells this in person. Sorry.

Posted by splumer Have you read David Scheuer's book Osama bin Laden? I think you of all people would get a lot out of it.

No, why would I get a lot out of it?

Posted by Soldat No, why would I get a lot out of it?

Well, you're one of the more thoughtful people here when it comes to foreign policy and especially the war on terrorism. It's part biography, part explanation of how and why al Qaeda are the way they are, and how the US has played right into their hands. And it's not written from a far-left perspective. Oops. His name is Michael. Here's a link to his appearance on the Colbert Report.

http://www.colbert...11/michael-scheuer

Posted by Soldat It's easy to discount radical Islam from the safety of US shores where really, it is never going to touch you.

Exactly. Radical Islam has NEVER struck in the US. Not even once. Or on 4 planes in one day, and changed the lives of every American over the span of a few hours.

I am assuming your comment was in fact sarcasm, which voids mine.

Posted by Jonno23 Exactly. Radical Islam has NEVER struck in the US. Not even once. Or on 4 planes in one day, and changed the lives of every American over the span of a few hours. I am assuming your comment was in fact sarcasm, which voids mine.

A decade ago 3000 miles from you.

You are right. The threat is real.

Right, because I didn't have a friend that worked in one of the towers.

And you said Never. You did not put a time limit on this.

Also, I have friends in the military, who were in before 9/11. several that have been assigned to embassies that have been attacked. Also, you said it would never touch me. I would say that a friend's death, linked directly to the attacks, touches my life. in fact I think that most every American's life was touched that day. Who the hell cares if it was 10 years ago? It has altered the way America works. It has, and continues to "touch" every American's life. That was my point.

If you mean recently, and not "touched", but "directly caused you to die or be injured", say that. I responded to what you wrote, not what you meant to write.

(no longer directed to Soldat in particular)
I do not take any of this personally, as it is a message board. But some people on here are ridiculous. If you are going to use the argument that the Muslims treat the book as if it were their god, and to burn the book is to burn God, how do you then argue that it would be okay to harm someone that had nothing to do with that man or his actions under those circumstances? That's like me slapping the next person I see because i didnt like the way my eggs were prepared a week ago. Ok, not exactly like that, but just as absurd.

This whole discussion is screwy.