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Johnny Mnemonic
Location: Houston, TX (Previously Dallas) Gender: Male Total Likes: 37 likes
I don't know, either.
| | | Re: Galveston brewery and bank < Reply # 13 on 9/23/2015 11:27 PM > | Reply with Quote
| | | Oh lord, here we go. Duckling, it's good to see new folks on here, and I'm glad that you feel that you are fairly responsible about your own use of the info here, and indeed appear to be so. That being said, not everyone is. It's generally known that the scrappers, vandals, and other people who wreck really special locations tend not to have the attention span required to do real-world research or build a network of friends, and the "hierarchy" that you think you've seen are simply the people who have put the (significant) time and effort into this hobby required to do one or both of those things really well. One of the great perks of being able to do research away from the comfort of your computer desk and/or having actual exploring friends is being able to find or ask about info on locations. All the stuff on this forum originally came from someone doing hard work, and asking people who don't know you to give up that hard-earned information will inevitably make some people really unhappy with you, for various reasons. The "you're doing it wrong" mentality seems to be pretty common to new people here, but this site has over a decade of history, and has built up its own practices and norms. Believe it or not, things are they way they are here for a reason. You even appear to be aware of many of them. I recommend you try going with the flow and actually attempting to come to grips with why these behaviors exist before acting like you're going to single-handedly change the prevailing opinion of many here.
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| Peptic Ulcer
Location: Katy, TX Gender: Male Total Likes: 839 likes
"Isn't it fun - being bad?"
| | | | Re: Galveston brewery and bank < Reply # 15 on 9/24/2015 12:40 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | It almost sounds as if you wish to preserve these places in a state you or someone else has deemed desirable? | Yes I can already tell that I have no hope of changing these predisposed intuitions you seem to have against the idea of allowing any and all who wish to see these places for any reason other than the ones you see fit of a means to do so | You are correct - you have no hope in this respect. What is it about these places that captivates you? | I presume that this is a rhetorical question as you continue on with specific inquiries relating to the original question however if you truly wish to flush out this topic there are several public threads relating to it. Is it walking into them and seeing everything the same as it was before seemingly frozen in time? | For me - yes. Does it irk you to walk in and see that an artist of some sorts has come in during your absence and used one of its cherished walls as a means of expression? | Yes. Does it make you sad to see a beautiful historical landmark gutted and demolished to build a high rise, parking garage, or penitentiary? | Yes Each time you visit these places do you hope nothing has changed? | I believe that this is the same question you asked previously (Is it walking into them and seeing everything the same as it was before seemingly frozen in time?). I would direct you to my answer there. Who are you to rob people of their time in these wonderous places you keep secret? | I'm not certain but I do not believe that anyone here has robbed you of your "time in these wonderous places". If you consider the withholding of information robbery I cannot understand your point. How can one be robbed of something he doesnt possess? If someone from this site has physically restrained you from entering a location I believe the proper legal authorities as well as the moderators of this site should be immediately informed.
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| theduckling
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| | | Re: Galveston brewery and bank < Reply # 17 on 9/24/2015 5:36 AM > | Reply with Quote
| | | These words were inspired by a kind, well meaning, unnamed individual of this forum whom I thank for their support throughout this endeavor this past week. The anger towards this community stems from my preconceived notion as a long time lurker that many of the higher ups on this forum are combative, argumentative, know-it-alls. This is not a made up fact I knew how many of you acted towards newcomers before I ever even posted and have even found some of the users instagrams and reddit accounts through cross referenced photos or names.(This could be viewed as threatening but that isn't what I intended.) You call me a know-it-all simply because I came here with open eyes and didn't sugar coat my feelings. I made a simple post. I didn't ask for locations knowing how everyone felt about that. I didn't post hey i'm going to the @band0n3d 8r3w3ry in G@lv3st0n on ??rd street #googlekeywords #urbex. (see what I did there? your welcome.) And how was I greeted? By a veteran of the forum I might add, who should be more of a model and I would expect to be nice among the hazing new full members rather than the backwards environment you currently have. It also angers me when I go into a location and see the tags with obvious relations to the usernames of members of this forum, not because I have a problem at all with painting, but because it's so clear to me that this community isn't even what these moderators as I would refer to them make it out to be. In addition, that these people got away with something I couldn't. I had to work hard to find some of my places and I make up that it was given to them on a silver platter from your database. I don't wish to argue or preach to anyone about these matters, least of all any of you. I simply wish to be accepted and not given a hard time. You ask me to lighten up and maybe I'm stubborn but I simply will not conform to what this forum wishes me to act like when it is so blatantly obvious that many of the full members are in fact not who they pretend to be on these pages. Anyone can find plenty of locations through a simple google search, surely enough to post photos to this site and gain entry to your clearly undermined societies precious database. I will not show you anything but the real me and if worst comes to worst I will simply be back at square one on google earth combing through the streets. Don't mistake what I have said here to mean that I don't think any of the people on this site should not have access to this site. I apologize seeing as how I most likely forced this conversation out of anger from my original well thought out to me post that I didn't think broke any of your rules being met with immediate disapproval, and newly full members warnings.
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| fatwax4
Location: somewhere i shouldn't be Gender: Male Total Likes: 281 likes
| | | | Re: Galveston brewery and bank < Reply # 18 on 9/24/2015 7:46 PM > | Reply with Quote
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