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|  | | | I have found a vacant building in dannemora, NY directly across from the prison. What originally got my attention is the siren on it, but that is another story. The top few floors of the building are empty, and the windows are smashed. I have a feeling that the place will have some kind of security system, so I want to talk to a few people about that first (my parents and a few other people I know work in the prison). My mother said she saw a few things (such as chairs) in the building with her binoculars from the guard tower. What is the precautions I should take other than asking about an alarm system? and is it even a good idea to screw around with a state owned building?
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Jake Noodles
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<Reply # 1 on 11/29/2007 11:14 PM >
| | | | Is it on the LDB?
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~Anubis~
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<Reply # 2 on 11/29/2007 11:16 PM >
| | | | I have not seen it, but it might be seems how I am not a full member. I did not know lion mountain was on here untill someone told me (I have pic's of the exterior of the place).
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Jake Noodles
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<Reply # 3 on 11/29/2007 11:18 PM >
| | | | I don't see anything in Dannemora, NY... The city doesn't even show up...
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<Reply # 4 on 11/30/2007 9:03 PM >
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and no, don't fuck around on prison premises.
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<Reply # 5 on 11/30/2007 9:08 PM >
| | | | I'd say you need to look out for prison guards with binoculars.
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<Reply # 6 on 11/30/2007 9:14 PM >
| | | | I kind of doubt there'd be any sort of security system inside that thing. I also doubt it's going to be all that interesting once you get in.
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<Reply # 7 on 11/30/2007 9:20 PM >
| | | | Posted by micro
I kind of doubt there'd be any sort of security system inside that thing. I also doubt it's going to be all that interesting once you get in.
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+ eleventy.
oh, and please remind my not to cross paths with your prison guard mom. kthxbai
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<Reply # 8 on 11/30/2007 11:49 PM >
| | | | Posted by TheFonz
is it even a good idea to screw around with a state owned building?
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The fact that a property is state-owned in itself means very little, security and willingness to prosecute depend on all kinds of other things...
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<Reply # 9 on 12/1/2007 6:32 AM >
| | | | Anything near a prison and they get all funky when they see you have a camera. They stop you and babble about the folks in orange jumpsuits having rights when it comes to taking their pictures. Guess it is a huge no no. They never asked me if I have been poking around in the buildings just if I had taken any pics of the prisoners.
Sorry I have no specific info on this place but that was my experience with another state owned property on jail grounds. They let my friend and me leave without ever checking our cameras but did follow us to my vehicle and ran my plate.
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<Reply # 10 on 12/1/2007 7:58 AM >
| | | | dannemora prison was once dannemora state hospital. you may be looking at some of the old hospital buildings. probably pretty boring and not worth the risk.
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<Reply # 11 on 12/4/2007 7:44 AM >
| | | | Posted by TheFonz
I have found a vacant building in dannemora, NY directly across from the prison. What originally got my attention is the siren on it, but that is another story. The top few floors of the building are empty, and the windows are smashed. I have a feeling that the place will have some kind of security system, so I want to talk to a few people about that first (my parents and a few other people I know work in the prison). My mother said she saw a few things (such as chairs) in the building with her binoculars from the guard tower. What is the precautions I should take other than asking about an alarm system? and is it even a good idea to screw around with a state owned building?
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I would not mess with that site. I certainly would not be inquiring about an alarm system also, since it's associated with the prison. If your mother can see chairs inside the structure, then a guard would be able to see you. I'm sure they (the prison guards) can muster a large force to use against you in a short period of time, and blow the whole thing out of proportion. You don't want a "breaking into a prison" rapsheet. It's one of those things that can only bring worry to you and your mother who works there. I'm sure your mother's job would be at great risk if you are caught. Better targets are over the horizen.
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~Anubis~
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<Reply # 12 on 12/6/2007 12:30 AM >
| | | | well, thank you all for the insight, I might skip out on that place from the sounds of things. But I still want the siren, which would be very hard to get down anyway. I will have my mother look out for some kind of demolition plans for the place if possible...
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Mobian
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<Reply # 13 on 12/14/2007 2:16 AM >
| | | | Like Matteawan -
Dannemora State Hospital was a high security psych center -
I think its still used for a few things - even if the newer facility acroos the way is open and in use.
http://www.asylump...ts.org/dannsh.html
I wouldn't touch it.
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<Reply # 14 on 12/24/2007 12:04 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mobian
Like Matteawan -
Dannemora State Hospital was a high security psych center -
I think its still used for a few things - even if the newer facility acroos the way is open and in use.
http://www.asylump...ts.org/dannsh.html
I wouldn't touch it.
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Yeap. They will put the hurt on you if you just caught there with a camera, let alone stealing or alarm tampering.
Prison guards get real funny when they spot a camera, and you won't appreciate their humor.
State cops aren't going to tolerate B&E, alarm tampering, theft, etc. and normally most states will press charges as it's the commonwealth's (tax payers) property.
If you really ant something wait until it's actioned off, or contact the appropriate people, although this may not be easy, and fire houses love those really big sirens too.
A real danger too is you can have felony charges brought against you if you violate any of the hospitals patients rights; most states have special laws just to deal with this.
Avoid active sites that have residents, patients, or are doing R&D work!
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| | | Re: State owned buildings
<Reply # 15 on 12/24/2007 3:02 PM >
| | | | He hasn't said it is actually owned by the prison. I have done 3 places right next door to prisons. One place, you could look into the prison grounds from the top floors, watch them playing football, etc. I don't see what the problem would be, as long as you don't actually try to access the active prison. As with all places, there is a risk of getting caught and getting into trouble. Have you been down and had a look for access points? Smashed windows would suggest it isn't as safely guarded as some would suggest. Have a look for access points. What's all this about alarm tampering and breaking things to get in? Most of the time there is a way into most places without having to resort to such things.
How do you all know it would be boring? Have any of you been in there? How does anyone know unless they get in there?
If you wanna do it and you feel the risk is worth it, go for it.
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<Reply # 16 on 12/24/2007 3:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by Azubi.UK
He hasn't said it is actually owned by the prison. I have done 3 places right next door to prisons. One place, you could look into the prison grounds from the top floors, watch them playing football, etc. I don't see what the problem would be, as long as you don't actually try to access the active prison. As with all places, there is a risk of getting caught and getting into trouble. Have you been down and had a look for access points? Smashed windows would suggest it isn't as safely guarded as some would suggest. Have a look for access points. What's all this about alarm tampering and breaking things to get in? Most of the time there is a way into most places without having to resort to such things.
How do you all know it would be boring? Have any of you been in there? How does anyone know unless they get in there?
If you wanna do it and you feel the risk is worth it, go for it.
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Laws are different in the US, and it's a state owned building. Playing next to an active prison with cameras is asking for it.
I've stated some of the issues pertaining to violating inmates rights, and then there's security... you could be planning a break out, or trying to harm an inmate.
If they're using smart cameras, you will almost certainly be tagged. Prisons are generally bristling with cams...
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<Reply # 17 on 12/24/2007 6:29 PM >
| | | | Point taken. I guess because I have never had a problem, I don't see the risks as much. Different laws and all that, I understand.
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<Reply # 18 on 12/25/2007 4:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by Azubi.UK
Point taken. I guess because I have never had a problem, I don't see the risks as much. Different laws and all that, I understand.
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I had a prison guard crawling up my ass, and I wasn't even pointing my camera towards the prison and was on public right away. Ended up calling the prison warden because this fucker hassled me three times over three days.
In th US they have authority similar to a cop's and shouldn't be crossed.
They tend to be very proactive too.
In the US it a good idea to contact the warden if your going to be taking any pictures around their prison. As I learned, but fortunately not the hard way.
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| | Re: State owned buildings
<Reply # 19 on 12/25/2007 5:24 AM >
| | | | Prisons, particularly large, active maximum security facilities are nothing to fool around with. I had a friend in New England pull over to take some shots out of general curiosity (almost 1km away from the prison), and the next thing he knew his house was being searched later on that day.
The authorities didn't take his 'reason' seriously but with suspicion -- he was a volunteer in a minimum security facility, and an amateur photographer - they didn't give a shit.
Another time he took photos of a cop who shot someone while on duty. He didn't tell me much about this -- but stated that he came back and his apartment was broken into and a bunch of film rolls were stolen. He never insinuated it was LE, but ever since then I don't even think about photographing either subject matter.
Blackhawk is right about this, ask and don't think social engineering will get you out of harms way with these types of situations.
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