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1 2   UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Pretty new, questions about manholes (Viewed 1295 times) Knightweaver   |  Pretty new, questions about manholes < on 11/17/2010 4:22 PM >   So, there are some manholes around here... a lot actually, but most of them are near houses or in the middle of the street. How do you get down in to them without someone noticing? Also, how do I know if it is safe to go in or not? I will wear waterproof boots and gloves and I have some face masks to filter it but are there any indicators that I should not go down into it? Also, any other tips? Thank you! AnAppleSnail  Location: Charlotte, NC Gender: Male ALL the flashlights!  |  |  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 1 on 11/17/2010 4:27 PM >   Posted by Knightweaver So, there are some manholes around here... a lot actually, but most of them are near houses or in the middle of the street. How do you get down in to them without someone noticing? Also, how do I know if it is safe to go in or not? I will wear waterproof boots and gloves and I have some face masks to filter it but are there any indicators that I should not go down into it? Also, any other tips? Thank you! You have to do it either when nobody's looking, nobody can see you, or nobody will think you're out of place. Think nighttime, dawn, construction barricades (yours or ones you find in place), or something clever. It'll be safe to go in unless there's bad air. You'll need some way of detecting this. If you know your limits very well, you won't need expensive oxygen sensors and poison detectors. Generally you should avoid tunnels without some amount of airflow. Those are the ones that'll kill you. Read approach.txt for drains. If you haven't been in a drain, don't go to a sanitary sewer (smells like soap/shampoo) and try to avoid CSOs until you know the air quality stuff. Achievement Unlocked Mickael  Moderator Location: Canada Gender: Male  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 2 on 11/17/2010 4:47 PM >   Nothing says "I belong here" more than a hard hat, a clipboard and a reflective vest. I'm not suggesting that you do this, I'm just pointing it out.. Need forum-related help / Besoin d'aide reliée au forum ? Contact a moderator Rinzler  Location: New Jersey Nomad  |  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 3 on 11/17/2010 6:30 PM >   Posted by Mickael Nothing says "I belong here" more than a hard hat, a clipboard and a reflective vest. I'm not suggesting that you do this, I'm just pointing it out.. That is true. Or just a pair of regular jeans, boots and a white t-shirt. Ive used this a few times going into construction sites to enter buildings. Nobody looked twice at me. Esoterik  Location: Kansas City Gender: Male  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 4 on 11/17/2010 6:36 PM >   I'm looking to purchase a quality clipboard, should I go for a brand name, or does anyone have suggestions? “You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.” cr400  Location: Los Angeles, CA Gender: Male  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 5 on 11/17/2010 7:27 PM >   An aluminum clip board, or posse box. These flip open and you can keep things like maps and pens inside, a legal pad on the outside for notes and such. This is what the pros use. If money is short, get an oversized clip board, these work well in holding a folded site map or print. Construction site superintendent's know who is working on site at any particular time, your best bet is to go when the site is full of many different trades. This way you can probably get on site without the normal sign in procedure. You can see a million miles tonite, but you can't get very far. Honorary member of UER lifetime acheivement award winning, 2Xplorations and Guide Services, Texas. hydrotherapy  Clever Girl Location: Circle of Least Confusion RPS is inside all of us  |  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 6 on 11/17/2010 7:34 PM >   Wouldn't this do better in the Rookie Forum? Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. Knightweaver   |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 7 on 11/17/2010 8:08 PM >   Thanks for the help/ideas. There is one nearby that is off the beaten path, I will scout it out in the morning. relik  Location: 44.26126°,-88.41502° (Appleton, WI) Gender: Male There is no truth, Only a perspective.  |  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 8 on 11/17/2010 10:26 PM >   you don't always need to use manholes for access to drainage pipes. there are always openings scattered around, such as where the water drains into a body of water, or where it picks back up (if an open ditch is used for a ways). i find these far more convenient than worrying about being seen beginning a decent. "When it rains, just find bigger drains." Loki  Location: Melbourne, Australia Gender: Male  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 9 on 11/17/2010 11:53 PM >   Posted by Esoterik I'm looking to purchase a quality clipboard, should I go for a brand name, or does anyone have suggestions? There are a thousand "what clipboard should I buy threads", try using the search function next time okay? P.S. I've never seen a confined space worker packing a clip board. Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank | Wank Knightweaver   |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 10 on 11/18/2010 1:34 AM >   How would you recommend I find one of those open drain entrances if I do not have a large amount of time to look? Is there a map site that is easy to understand I can look at ahead of time to find out where they are? Thank you again for the help. cr400  Location: Los Angeles, CA Gender: Male  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 11 on 11/18/2010 1:48 AM >   Posted by ExplorerLoki There are a thousand "what clipboard should I buy threads", try using the search function next time okay? P.S. I've never seen a confined space worker packing a clip board. We do use them often. Not only to use as a desk for the asbuilt or strand map, but often we'll need to notate, flooding, damage, air quality. We'll do that right on the map we're issued. Some confined space surveys are city wide, and take many months to complete. My posse box has kept vicious dogs at bay while I retreated of properties. You can see a million miles tonite, but you can't get very far. Honorary member of UER lifetime acheivement award winning, 2Xplorations and Guide Services, Texas. Dark-Star   |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 12 on 11/18/2010 1:52 AM >   Posted by Played That is true. Or just a pair of regular jeans, boots and a white t-shirt. Ive used this a few times going into construction sites to enter buildings. Nobody looked twice at me. This is very good advice, such a 'disguise' is incredibly effective. To make it even more effective, observe actual crews on the job, and observe what they wear. For example, in my locale they often require crewmembers to wear a reflective orange or neon-green vests like the ones they give to kids on crossing-guard duty. Even better is to go when there are real crews working nearby. You won't look nearly as out of place, but of course you might have to wait awhile before the city has a good reason to send a crew to work on something nearby. cr400  Location: Los Angeles, CA Gender: Male  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 13 on 11/18/2010 3:34 AM >   A good thing to take a look at the names on some of the subcontractors trucks, it could come in handy to blurt out that name, if somebody asks who you are. Make sure you don't say you're with the general contractor, the super works for them, He's most likely who'll be asking you questions.. He'll know you're full of shit. You can see a million miles tonite, but you can't get very far. Honorary member of UER lifetime acheivement award winning, 2Xplorations and Guide Services, Texas. cr400  Location: Los Angeles, CA Gender: Male  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 14 on 11/18/2010 3:36 AM >   A good thing to take a look at the names on some of the subcontractors trucks, it could come in handy to blurt out that name, if somebody asks who you are. Make sure you don't say you're with the general contractor, the super works for them, He's most likely who'll be asking you questions.. He'll know you're full of shit. You can see a million miles tonite, but you can't get very far. Honorary member of UER lifetime acheivement award winning, 2Xplorations and Guide Services, Texas. G to the Race  Hi!  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 15 on 11/18/2010 3:38 AM >   I don't know how old you are, but if you are a teen or in early 20s, see if you can hook up w/a like-minded middle-aged person to go w/you. The "Git off my yard" crowd gets all over teenagers, but a middle-aged person can pass as legit w/them pretty easily. You betcha relik  Location: 44.26126°,-88.41502° (Appleton, WI) Gender: Male There is no truth, Only a perspective.  |  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 16 on 11/18/2010 6:12 AM >   Posted by Knightweaver How would you recommend I find one of those open drain entrances if I do not have a large amount of time to look? Is there a map site that is easy to understand I can look at ahead of time to find out where they are? Thank you again for the help. look where you expect them to be? i don't know. i usually just stumble onto them. i'm an explorer of all types. outdoor exploration leads to some rewarding times. =] "When it rains, just find bigger drains." Steed  Location: Edmonton/Seoul Gender: Male Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor  |  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 17 on 11/18/2010 6:50 AM >   Posted by Knightweaver How would you recommend I find one of those open drain entrances if I do not have a large amount of time to look? Is there a map site that is easy to understand I can look at ahead of time to find out where they are? Thank you again for the help. Google Earth is a big help. Just scan any riverbanks. Also, it's probably just my city, but the biggest entrances I find are always under bridges and following underneath major roads. Knightweaver   |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 18 on 11/18/2010 3:19 PM >   Ok, I think I know where one might be. My only problem is, have any of you ever gotten stuck in drains? I think I would be afraid the whole time that I cant get back out, haha. Is that not really much of a problem? Steed  Location: Edmonton/Seoul Gender: Male Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor  |  |  Re: Pretty new, questions about manholes <Reply # 19 on 11/18/2010 3:26 PM >   Another reason to only go in open entrances at rivers and such. The only thing I fear is running out of light. UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Pretty new, questions about manholes (Viewed 1295 times) 1 2   All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site: UER CONTACT View Terms of Service | View Privacy Policy | Server colocation provided by Beanfield This page was generated for you in 265 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 740801890 pages have been generated.