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UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > cop took our info (Viewed 1062 times)
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cop took our info
< on 10/18/2009 5:21 AM >
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today a buddy and i were caught in this small alcove that was fenced off (we were outside of the fence) that led to the basement of a parking garage at and abandoned hospital/psych ward, the cop took our info and looked at our id's and all that. if we were not breaking the law then why did he do that?

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 1 on 10/18/2009 5:29 AM >
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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 2 on 10/18/2009 5:29 AM >
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Posted by Brind
because he can


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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 3 on 10/18/2009 5:42 AM >
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I would surmise that it was in the event that a crime had been committed or was going to be committed. If he had simply let you go only to find out after the fact that an arson had occured minutes earlier, he'd be regretting not taking your information.

I was stopped once while walking back from the store. A car had been stolen not too far from my home. The officer asked to see my ID and bottom of my shoes, which I showed him, but they weren't the footprints he was looking for (it was winter). I got stopped a second time, and I told them that I'd already been stopped just moments earlier. The first officer radioed, "He's okay" and they let me go.

Now if it came to be later on that they were the shoes (although he'd already checked... but for sake of argument) he would want to have a name to go with the person.
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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 4 on 10/18/2009 1:27 PM >
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It's also a deterrent for some people. They worry they might get flagged on the system if caught again so it can put these people off.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 5 on 10/18/2009 1:36 PM >
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I'd say this is the 'best case scenario with any interaction with the authorities.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 6 on 10/18/2009 2:25 PM >
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Because that's what cops do.
He had you on trespassing by the sound of it, but that would just be a pain in the ass and eat up the rest of his shift.
So he took your info.
If anything happens to that hospital (think fires), expect a call from the PD.

Posted by urbexkeith
today a buddy and i were caught in this small alcove that was fenced off (we were outside of the fence) that led to the basement of a parking garage at and abandoned hospital/psych ward, the cop took our info and looked at our id's and all that. if we were not breaking the law then why did he do that?




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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 7 on 10/18/2009 6:53 PM >
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Posted by urbexkeith
today a buddy and i were caught in this small alcove that was fenced off (we were outside of the fence) that led to the basement of a parking garage at and abandoned hospital/psych ward


It kinda depends on what hospital/psych ward it was. If it was some place like Childrens Hospital they take it pretty seriously but if it was an older more run down one it was probably a scare tactic. PM me with what hospital it was please I would love to go check it out!!



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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 8 on 10/18/2009 7:03 PM >
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It's a TRAP!
She's the cop!

Posted by Mrs.Marni
It kinda depends on what hospital/psych ward it was. If it was some place like Childrens Hospital they take it pretty seriously but if it was an older more run down one it was probably a scare tactic. PM me with what hospital it was please I would love to go check it out!!






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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 9 on 10/18/2009 8:38 PM >
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Posted by DevilC
It's a TRAP!
She's the cop!


ROFLMAO or something like that! Hell no i'm not a cop...I can't stand the bastards, I got busted at childrens a couple weeks back and it succkked!! I just like creepy old hospitals!

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 10 on 10/19/2009 4:45 AM >
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That's exactly what a cop would say. The other one probably passed that info on to her and now she knows where you live too.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 11 on 10/19/2009 6:38 AM >
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Because you let him.

He had no legal basis to do that, assuming it wasn't posted no-trespassing. (Unless you are driving, or arrested, you never have to provide ID). That said, the last three times a cop wanted my ID "just to check the details" / to copy the name to his logbook I complied. It's easier not to have them pissed of at you, and as long as nothing goes missing / catches on fire in the next week or two, you'll be forgotten about, and probably not even in any permanent records.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 12 on 10/19/2009 7:06 AM >
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Posted by junkyard
That's exactly what a cop would say. The other one probably passed that info on to her and now she knows where you live too.


Hmmmmm let me think about it...nope still not a cop maybe for haloween...nope not even then lol, he posted pics of the place on another thread and if I was a cop I know where its at and could have busted him. Its a well patroled place or at least used to be so if he does get busted its for lack of checking the place out well enough. Its across the street from the main hospital here in englewood. But hey good luck to ya just keep your eyes open.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 13 on 10/19/2009 7:56 AM >
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Cop.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 14 on 10/20/2009 12:31 AM >
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TRAP!

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 15 on 10/20/2009 1:23 AM >
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Posted by MindHacker
Because you let him.

He had no legal basis to do that, assuming it wasn't posted no-trespassing. (Unless you are driving, or arrested, you never have to provide ID).


That's exactly what I was thinking.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 16 on 10/20/2009 2:32 AM >
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Yeah, in most states you're not required to show ID if a cop stops you on the street (you are for traffic stops, obviously, but if you're both on the street then he can't make you do anything). I'd check your state law to be sure, but for the most part I wouldn't worry. This is one of the few times where I grant a concession to a cop that I don't have to. It makes them feel better without getting me in trouble.

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 17 on 10/20/2009 2:40 AM >
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Sort of, yes and maybe no.
How about we know what we're talking about before dishing out legal advice.
OK?
Thanks.

In Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, http://www.google....rB_7WMBzMI-4E-aFVA
SCOTUS upheld state laws requiring citizens to disclose their identity to police when officers have "reasonable suspicion" to believe criminal activity may be taking place.
We call these "stop-and-identify" laws - they permit police to arrest criminal suspects who refuse to identify themselves.

As of 2008, 24 states had stop-and-identify laws.
http://en.wikipedi....E2.80.9D_statutes
Colorado is one.
http://www.dvmen.org/dv-177.htm#16-3-103

It does not matter what your state's law is, cops can't compel you to identify yourself without "reasonable suspicion" to believe you're involved in some sort of criminal activity.

You were somewhere you weren't supposed to be - so they have "reasonable suspicion" to conclude you're involved in some sort of criminal activity.


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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 18 on 10/20/2009 3:24 AM >
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its more fun to lie to the cops!

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Re: cop took our info
<Reply # 19 on 10/20/2009 3:48 AM >
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Posted by DevilC
You were somewhere you weren't supposed to be - so they have "reasonable suspicion" to conclude you're involved in some sort of criminal activity.[/b]


"Supposed to" isn't a legal term... They were legally allowed to be where they were, so they probably could have not given their names if they wanted to.

If you aren't sure if you are required to show ID, you can always ask if you are free to leave / if they are detaining you. (I just read Devil's links... which say the same thing).

And no, lying to cops is a bad idea. It's much much safer to say nothing. Or something completely innocent and off-topic, but be careful it doesn't incriminate you some other way. If you are afraid of it looking suspicious that you don't want to say anything, just tell them your father / lawyer / ron paul told you never to talk to cops, ever.
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