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 IIVQ
       
Location: La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL
Gender: Male
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 |  |  |  |  | Allegedly, there are guards there...
< on 2/27/2009 11:21 PM >
|  | | | There's a lot of locations that I've heard stories about that are guarded by security, or a guard living on-site or near the site. However, for all those sites which I've been to, I've never seen anything like a guard at all:
- Charbonnages du Hasard is supposed to have an on-site guard. There is no inhabitable house on-site. I've been there about 5 times over the course of 5 years. Never seen anyone except for some kids.
- Le Chartreuse. Same thing, but it's the guard's son, and dog security. There is an inhabitable house there and there are new (hand-painted) dog security signs there, but I've never seen anyone and I've been there quite a lot, on various times during day and weekend.
- Chateau Mesen: "alarmed, cops will come". Granted, when we were there, we didn't get over the fence, but there was no security activity visible.
- Forges de Clabecq: "Railroad security will get you". We took another entrance, we did see people but certainly no security.
I don't believe I am just plain lucky in not meeting security. What is happening?
- Scare tactics by other explorers who want to keep this location to themselves?
- Explorers who want to look cooler because they didn't just visited the location, but also dodged/befriended security
- Something else
I DO have encountered security a few times, but it was always at active sites or on lesser-known sites. Reactions ranged from asking our passports and being sent away, to "sure, have a look, but just say when you're leaving then I close the gate".
Have you noticed other explorers are "faking" security and/or have you done so? What is the reason behind this?
Tijmen
Posted by MapMan | 18/9/2005 19:25 | Hedy Lamarr made porn?
Posted by turbozutek | 20/9/2005 2:29 | Dude, educate us! |
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uLiveAndYouBurn
Location: Beyond
Anarchocommunist
| | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 1 on 2/27/2009 11:45 PM >
| | | | My view is that it ain't secure for sure until the blaring sound of a siren deafens you and you're haulin balls out the door and over the fence just as one of the three dobermans chomp down on your jeans and leave you pantsless.
Then and only then do you write off a location.
"Aint nothin' to it but to do it"
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 2 on 2/28/2009 12:18 AM >
| | | | Most locations I infiltrate are patrolled by Laser-Pandas carrying nuclear briefcase bombs rigged to explode at the sound of a pair of explorer's testicles being sucked back into the body cavity. Just sayin'.
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| |  | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 3 on 2/28/2009 12:34 AM >
| | | | For Hasard, I'm told that there is a caretaker who you can call and have him open the front gate for the cost of a bottle of wine (and his number is written next to the gate) - Met someone inside who did just that. We took the slope route in.
Chartreuse.. yeah, no sign of anyone/anydog.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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hatsumi
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 4 on 2/28/2009 1:05 PM >
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i've found it to be hit and miss here, a few places i have done several times and seen no one whilst at at least one location someone had a gun pointed at them.
recently quite a large industrial site we did had staff on site, guard at front gate, cameras....we played in there for hours and never saw them patrol once
sometimes its experience, timing and good luck that sees a lot of uninteruppted trips to places....i've hidden a few times but never had to haul ass.
im sure some people talk it up to protect places from other explorers or keep it to themselves
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IIVQ
Location: La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL
Gender: Male
Back in Urbex!
| | | | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 5 on 2/28/2009 10:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
For Hasard, I'm told that there is a caretaker who you can call and have him open the front gate for the cost of a bottle of wine (and his number is written next to the gate) - Met someone inside who did just that. We took the slope route in.
Chartreuse.. yeah, no sign of anyone/anydog.
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Does the guy just open the gate for you or does he also give tours and/or did he work here and tell you about it? That would be interesting.
A friend of mine didn't know any route so he took the route trough the gardens of the houses there - and was not befriended by any owners... 
But indeed, "stories" of guards will not deter me.
Tijmen
Posted by MapMan | 18/9/2005 19:25 | Hedy Lamarr made porn?
Posted by turbozutek | 20/9/2005 2:29 | Dude, educate us! |
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 6 on 2/28/2009 10:31 PM >
| | | | I couldn't get more details than that. Bit of a language barrier between us and them.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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Air
Location: Canada
| | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 7 on 2/28/2009 10:38 PM >
| | | | I generally don't ask any info about a location unless I trust the person, so when you read something online -- take it with a grain of salt. But one thing you should keep in mind is that you might be lucky. Lucky with a guard on a coffee break, taking a dump, whatever. I've been to locations where my friends have been chased out and the next day I see photos from n00bz walking around in full view of the shack taking pictures, etc.
[last edit 2/28/2009 10:39 PM by Air - edited 1 times]
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Lexi
Location: Oslo, Norway
Gender: Female
I'm getting old.
| | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 8 on 2/28/2009 11:21 PM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
Most locations I infiltrate are patrolled by Laser-Pandas carrying nuclear briefcase bombs rigged to explode at the sound of a pair of explorer's testicles being sucked back into the body cavity. Just sayin'.
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[15:00:33] <SeeThirty> cause you're not likely to be anywhere that other people haven't been who didn't have protection
[15:00:41] <SeeThirty> still better safe than lexi |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 9 on 2/28/2009 11:32 PM >
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Backpack full of Panda Bear?
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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TCdrainer
Location: ur moms house
Gender: Male
| | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 10 on 3/1/2009 1:01 AM >
| | | | Lol. Yes, people do "fake" security, but in my experience it's limited to a few specific individuals. I've heard it about a million locations around here and it has never been true yet, luckily.
Perhaps a few of the "bullshit" security sighting stories are legit though. Often times lazy rent-a-cops will just periodically drop by a location for a minute. Better safe than sorry though.
I'll tell ya though, it is a shitty feeling when your favorite building that you've been to 20 times one day has a security car parked there out of no where.
And the main reason people fabricate these tales is because they want the location to themselves.
Sorry about the poor grammer, still hungover/drunk from last night
[last edit 3/1/2009 1:04 AM by TCdrainer - edited 1 times]
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NickSan
RIP
Location: Portland Or.
Gender: Male
UER newbie
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 11 on 3/1/2009 3:51 AM >
| | | | Posted by IIVQ
- Charbonnages du Hasard is supposed to have an on-site guard. There is no inhabitable house on-site. I've been there about 5 times over the course of 5 years. Never seen anyone except for some kids.
- Le Chartreuse. Same thing, but it's the guard's son, and dog security. There is an inhabitable house there and there are new (hand-painted) dog security signs there, but I've never seen anyone and I've been there quite a lot, on various times during day and weekend.
- Chateau Mesen: "alarmed, cops will come". Granted, when we were there, we didn't get over the fence, but there was no security activity visible.
- Forges de Clabecq: "Railroad security will get you". We took another entrance, we did see people but certainly no security.
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All true to a point.
The guard at Hassaed is an old employee that lives across the street. He mainly chases the local kids out. If you dont make noise he will not be a problem. We spent an hour watching him from one of the upper floors. He was yelling and banging a big stick trying to scare a few kids who were running around.
Pierre Croux was the caretaker at La Chartreuse, when he died in an accident in Africa his son took over the job with Yak the Trespasser Eating Rottweiler. It all depends if Yak likes you.
At Mesen it is the local cops of Lede who will come if some one sees you go over the wall.
And the railroad that goes through Clabecq is active so you could have a problem with security
[last edit 3/1/2009 3:53 AM by NickSan - edited 1 times]
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Uncle Goose
Location: Ghent, Belgium
Gender: Male
The Goose knows best.
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 12 on 3/2/2009 7:58 AM >
| | | | Clabeque is guarded by a private security firm called Rouseau, they drive around in a white van with the name in blue painted on the side. They have no fixed times of checking the place and the routes they take also vary. Most of the time they drive around the factory but sometimes they drive trough it too, it depends on the guard. They only come when there is no activity on the site, if people are working (like demolition crews) then they don't come. The guard is always alone but if he spots you he will ask back-up. I've been to Clabeque more than a dozen times so I know what to expect. I would be careful in the future, I have heard that Duferco (the owner) is getting fed up with the stream of "tourists" and when you get caught they will probably press charges against you. I advise to run/hide if you get spotted, it's also the fact that some guards get aggressive when you are not cooperating (even if they have no right to do so). So there is security in Clabeque but there is little or no system in it, sometimes you see them every half an hour other times you don't see them for hours.
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Uncle Goose
Location: Ghent, Belgium
Gender: Male
The Goose knows best.
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 13 on 3/2/2009 8:00 AM >
| | | | Posted by NickSan
Pierre Croux was the caretaker at La Chartreuse, when he died in an accident in Africa his son took over the job with Yak the Trespasser Eating Rottweiler. It all depends if Yak likes you.
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Damn, I'm out of luck with this one since I love cats!!
A 1000 days of sorrow can disapear in a split second, it takes only one person to make it happen. |
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Luna
Location: Hollywood, CA
Gender: Female
I am the terror that faps in the night
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 14 on 3/2/2009 10:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
Most locations I infiltrate are patrolled by Laser-Pandas carrying nuclear briefcase bombs rigged to explode at the sound of a pair of explorer's testicles being sucked back into the body cavity. Just sayin'.
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As a girl, I am impervious to your laser panda.
Casual mysterious. |
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Slyv
Location: Belgium, kingdom of UE
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 15 on 3/2/2009 10:26 AM >
| | | | Posted by IIVQ
Chateau Mesen: "alarmed, cops will come". Granted, when we were there, we didn't get over the fence, but there was no security activity visible.
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Why didn't you get in then? Because of the fence?
There is security guard in Mesen now (G4S) he walks in the park form time to time and otherwise sits at the little house at the entrance.
And if you look suspicious, he will certainly follow you in the park - that's what happened to us last week, but we did find out another way in.
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Steed
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 16 on 3/2/2009 10:30 AM >
| | | | I've heard vastly conflicting stories about Pashawan Resort (RIP).
The only time I ever set off an alarm was when I jumped the fence of a railroad museum and got a little too near the front office. My wife's still angry that I left her behind.
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IIVQ
Location: La Sud-Est du cité majeur du North-Holland (Bijlmer), .NL
Gender: Male
Back in Urbex!
| | | | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 17 on 3/2/2009 2:06 PM >
| | | | Posted by Slyv
Why didn't you get in then? Because of the fence?
There is security guard in Mesen now (G4S) he walks in the park form time to time and otherwise sits at the little house at the entrance.
And if you look suspicious, he will certainly follow you in the park - that's what happened to us last week, but we did find out another way in.
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We didn't get in because either we were in full view of the neighbouring houses, OR we had to get over a NEW and sturdy barbed-wire-fence. Neither of us knew any good way in and knew what to expect, and we'd already done a day of Clabecq so it wouldn't be a full-on exploration anyway, so we decided to grab some dinner and go home, where we had some fun times on the bridge over the Lek near Vianen.
But in general, I do believe there are sometimes people who occasionally guard certain sites, however I believe that some of these reports are grossly overstated. I've heard LOTS of "It's impossible to get into Mesen without being caught" lately, and you just disproved that.
Tijmen
BTW, what is the state of Mesen at the moment? Are they already wrecking? Is it still worth a visit?
Posted by MapMan | 18/9/2005 19:25 | Hedy Lamarr made porn?
Posted by turbozutek | 20/9/2005 2:29 | Dude, educate us! |
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dsankt
Location: live and in the fresh
| | | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 18 on 3/2/2009 3:15 PM >
| | | | Posted by uLiveAndYouBurn
My view is that it ain't secure for sure until the blaring sound of a siren deafens you and you're haulin balls out the door and over the fence just as one of the three dobermans chomp down on your jeans and leave you pantsless.
Then and only then do you write off a location.
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Amen!
I know people falsify parts of their reports, and omit important details to. One knows nothing for sure until they've hit the ground and reconnoitered it themselves. It's prudent to treat every location like there is security onsite, if not then that's a bonus.
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Slyv
Location: Belgium, kingdom of UE
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Allegedly, there are guards there...
<Reply # 19 on 3/3/2009 10:22 AM >
| | | | Posted by IIVQ
BTW, what is the state of Mesen at the moment? Are they already wrecking? Is it still worth a visit?
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The state is worse and worse of course, they have cut all the trees but the castle is still "intact".
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