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1 2 3   UER Forum > Archived Rookie Forum > Common Tools (Viewed 2442 times) sick hearts  Location: wpg . mb . ca Gender: Female  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 20 on 8/5/2008 12:01 AM >   Posted by Air 33 Unbridled enthusiasm also helps. I once got two cops off my back by carrying on about neon signage and how great it is. If you know me, you know its true. Now that I think about it, cops seem to like bugging us when were not even plotting . WTF is that about? i got rid of a security guard by getting way too excited about canadian geese. he just looked confused and walked away. hahaha d1skr33t  Location: Vancouver, BC Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 21 on 8/11/2008 9:24 AM >   Posted by MutantMandias I try to bring younger women whenever possible. QFT And for me maybe a set of bump keys some biking gloves a pocket knife cellphone flashlight Azubi.UK  Location: UK / KSA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 22 on 8/11/2008 3:28 PM >   Commonsense. It's the most important tool you will use. Don't forget the Police badges for the vest. Nothing beats making people think you are the popos. The 11th Commandment: Don't get caught! MutantMandias  Perverse and Often Baffling Location: Atlanta, GA Gender: Male Are you a reporter? Contact me for a UE interview! Also not averse to the the idea of group/anal.  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 23 on 8/11/2008 4:24 PM >   Cops LOVE it when you do that. They realize that you are only doing it out of respect. They will often offer to buy you a beer, depending on exactly how much you are trying to convince people that you are an officer! mutantMandias may cause dizziness, sexual nightmares, and sleep crime. ++++ mutantMandias has to return some videotapes ++++ Do not taunt mutantMandias mutantMandias is something more than human, more than a computer. mutantMandias is a murderously intelligent, sensually self-programmed, non-being Sirber  Location: Québec, QC Gender: Male everything wasn't good  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 24 on 8/11/2008 4:39 PM >   Sure a gun is useful... "Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god." — Sir Francis Bacon Azubi.UK  Location: UK / KSA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 25 on 8/11/2008 4:56 PM >   Posted by MutantMandias Cops LOVE it when you do that. They realize that you are only doing it out of respect. They will often offer to buy you a beer, depending on exactly how much you are trying to convince people that you are an officer! Don't forget discounts on bacon sandwiches and at garages. The 11th Commandment: Don't get caught! TurboZutek  King Dick Location: Scotland Gender: Male Giant octo-penised rapephant  |  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 26 on 8/11/2008 5:46 PM >   Posted by Azubi.UK Pffftt... Fucking amateur! Where's the Samaria sword!? Chris... We all had ostriches. My dad had an ostrich farm! I remember one day someone came in and said the high altitude bombing of Kosovo had been a limited success, so we all went out and celebrated… by killing an ostrich and boiling it in kiwi fruit. amy atomic  Location: Baltimore Gender: Female top banana of the baltimore bunch.  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 27 on 8/11/2008 6:10 PM >   - Mini Maglite with extra batteries and bulbs. - Camera with lens cap and neck strap. - Tripod. - Cell phone, fully charged. - Bandana. - Some sort of dust mask. - Chapstick. - Bandaids. - Dr. Marten's or steel-toed work boots. - Bug spray in the summer. - Anti-anxiety meds. - Dark clothing, generally, esp. if I'm going out at night. - A zip-up hoodie. - A fellow explorer, unless I'm just scouting a location from the outside. Mickael  Moderator Location: Canada Gender: Male  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 28 on 8/11/2008 10:23 PM >   Posted by Azubi.UK Don't forget the Police badges for the vest. Nothing beats making people think you are the popos. What are the Penalties for Impersonating a Police Officer? Depending on state law, impersonating a police officer may be considered either a felony or a misdemeanor. Punishments for impersonating a police officer include: * Imprisonment up to five years (sometimes more) * Fines (usually $1000 or more) * Probation * Permanent criminal record Source Need forum-related help / Besoin d'aide reliée au forum ? Contact a moderator Sirber  Location: Québec, QC Gender: Male everything wasn't good  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 29 on 8/12/2008 1:49 PM >   Posted by abandonedNH - Anti-anxiety meds. huh? "Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god." — Sir Francis Bacon Azubi.UK  Location: UK / KSA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 30 on 8/12/2008 4:40 PM >   Posted by Mickael What are the Penalties for Impersonating a Police Officer? The question you should be asking is 'What are the common causes of impersonating a police officer complete with badges whilst exploring?' Answer number one is distinct lack of commonsense. Read the first part of my post. I know it doesn't come across easily on the internet but the second part of my post, including the picture is in jest and not to be taken seriously. I am assuming turbozutek got it. Also if you are going to go down that route: - What is the penalty for carrying a firearm in the public in UK? - What is the penalty for carrying a fixed blade in public in the UK? - How silly is it to wear a stabvest? (not very come to think of it in these times) - How silly is it to take a bottle of southern comfort piss water when a real drink is easily come by? - Why take a kitkat chunky PEANUT, when they taste like sloppy poo? - Why take a 3lt. camelbak and a bottle of water on a normal trip? - How the hell do you intend to carry it all? The 11th Commandment: Don't get caught! KublaKhan  Location: Edinburgh, Scotland With Satan, it's always gimmie, gimmie.  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 31 on 8/12/2008 6:12 PM >   Posted by MutantMandias I try to bring younger women whenever possible. And a camera. "The truth is knowable. But probably not, ever, incontrovertible." --Don DeLillo PICS RochesterMNexplorer   |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 32 on 8/21/2008 2:49 AM >   I may not be a very old UER but I always bring a rebar/crowbar, flashlight, camera, mini-tripod, mask, gloves, leatherman, sweatshirt, and anything else i can fit on my body without bringing a bag along. While lifting up manholes, watch for old people. DevilC  Location: Washington, District of Corruption Gender: Male I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 33 on 8/21/2008 3:10 AM >   Bottle of wine, bag of weed, blanket, maybe some E - and lots of comments about how mature she is . . . . always worked for me. Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into tall buildings. Zorb   |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 34 on 8/21/2008 7:06 AM >   - 2x small LED flashlight (1W Lux, 3W Cree), one in DSLR camera bag*, one on belt holster. - Progressive 200EP inductive telephone tone probe - picks up electromagnetic fields, you can tell by the sound of them what they are, types or circuits (AC, Alarm, PIR sensor, Telephone, etc), on belt holster - Small pocket microscope (about 1.5"x.7"x3.5"), on belt holster - Basic first aid, band-aid set, alcohol pads, tape, wrap bandage, on belt in small pack. - DSLR (usually) - Canon A640 (on belt pack) - 8xAAA and 8xAA charged Sanyo Eneloop rechargeable batteries, on belt shotgun ammo pouch from army store. - Telephone - Small camera tripod, in DSLR camera bag. - Extra memory cards, in DSLR camera bag*. - Low profile Water bottle, belt hangable. - Maglite 4D LED(if going to Detroit or Flint), on belt hanger. - Dark and Red filters for LED flashlights and Maglite. - Tiny 1AAA LED white light (just in case, or if need less light) - GMRS Radio. - Monopod (In bag with back/shoulder strap) - Rangefinding Monocular Lens, on belt holster. - Belt pack with: Infrared photometer Audioscope/directional microphone Fluke inductive non-contact current probe (yes, I HAVE seen electrified doorknobs at entrances, whether deliberate or not I have no idea, as well as wires or fixtures falling onto metal suspended grate flooring with the same result) Pen sized white LED light 1AAA (One of two I take with me) If I take my vest, all the above plus: - Water bottle (attaches to vest outside) - Hooks (4 point Capewell 1600 pound and 3 point 3000 pound M.R. Grappling hooks - both spring loaded for climbing UP things, rail attachable hooks for climbing DOWN things) with 200' synthetic 1500 pound climbing line and ascenders, in vest compartments. - Spike set (the vest is part of a rock climbing set, after all, why leave them home?) - Cable guides, hangers, and attachments. - Multi-tool - Relocate most camera bag accessories to pocket of vest, as I likely will not take the DSLR with me if climbing, though will if just needing extra tools. - Non-spring assisted foldable knife (There is no real difference in opening speed when you get used to it, plus I have it as a tool, not a weapon. You will get a lot more crap for a spring assisted knife, even if not fullt spring deployed!) - Relocate radio to vest mount. - Foldable climbing hammer. - May take Soviet Surplus respirator, NBC and Particulate filter cartridges. - Monopod relocates to walking stick holder on back of vest. - Investigator license (being a licensed investigator gets you out of a LOT of crap with most cops, and most security won't screw with you, though some cops will hate you for it) and business card for investigative services company I work with. - Sometimes small reflector telescope with collapsable tripod and shoulder bag/backpack (I rigged a clip to hold it to my tripod bag). - Sometimes Tripod with shoulder strap. Believe it or not, if I leave the tripod/telescope set at home, I can walk, run at pretty much full speed (if I hold the maglite if I have it with me) with nothing shaking or moving around, or climb buildings or rock. It doesn't encumber me at all, though the belt is a bit batman-ish, and I have caught crap for it as being "silly" with some of my friends I go exploring with. Total weight is around 30 pounds (with everything but telescope), belt and associated is 8 pounds, vest is 16 pounds, camera is 2.5 pounds (not sure about bag), tripod's 2.8. Now, of course, things like tripods and monopods and telescopes can be carried by other people. EDIT: Forgot, always binoculars too, at least to scout. [last edit 8/21/2008 7:10 AM by Zorb - edited 1 times] SaraBellum  Berkshire Hunt Location: Villa Villekulla Gender: Female Coming to a cinema near you this summer.  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 35 on 8/21/2008 8:04 AM >   Posted by Zorb A bunch of stuff How much of that have you ever really needed? I'm not trying to be bitchy, but that seems like a lot of work to have fun. Camera(s), flashlight, water. Sometimes a tripod, sometimes a small first aid kid. That's all I carry anymore. Everything else is just one more thing to pack. [01:47:56] <GreyDeath> Sara just stares her enemies into submission and eventually madness "You can either be wise or a bad-ass gangsta, but not both. You must choose your path." ~~metawaffle Zorb   |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 36 on 8/21/2008 9:26 AM >   Maybe it's the investigator (positive knowledge of surroundings), the daredevil/climber (take the rope to the bottom of the pit), or the simple stubborn person (go in through the second floor window if the doors are boarded), in me making it happen that way. Also, I've had bad experiences with lights. I've dropped one a long way down (and yes I did retrieve it), run batteries out, and had friends come underequipped or lose something. Lights are important. Always have at least two. I'll get everything together for a picture sooner or later. You will see. It's really not that much. I also get a certain enjoyment out of going in through a window 25' up the building. I like to leave no trace when possible. If I go in through the roof door (or skylight), it's pretty cool to say. I've always kind of had this gadget obsession, and I like the spy-bit. I also like to make sure of what's up. My IR meter lets me see some many kinds of alarm equipment, as well as most automated light switches, so I know what I'm getting myself into. The 200EP lets me hear if there's anything electric. Pick up and use one sometime (not for its intended purpose)! Point it at a motor and listen, then to a light, to an AC line, to an alarm wire, to any low voltage transformer, to a switching power supply. They all sound different. As I said, positive knowledge of surroundings. It's not excessive if you can name at least two uses for every tool you carry. It's not excessive if you benefit from the use of a tool at least one out of three to four trips out. An inductive current probe is half an inch in diameter and 4 inches long. An IR meter is 1.25"x.75"x4". My two LED lights are between 1 and 1.2" in diameter and 4" long or so. All this stuff is little. I know it adds up, but not to that much. The only thing I never really use is the microscope thing. I just use it for when I study plants when I climb. My hooks both fold down to about 8" by 1.5", weigh less than two pounds each. To me, the difficult entry is a lot of the fun. Anybody can go poke around an old warehouse if they find a missing board on a window. I LIKE to go through the next story window, even if I could just as easily pull the board down with a screw gun or pick a lock or something. EDIT: Also... As I said, I like to climb. I don't want to put my spikes and cable guides and anchors in my vest again every time I change what I am doing. 3 or 4 pounds doesn't matter. [last edit 8/21/2008 9:28 AM by Zorb - edited 1 times] Blackbird  Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Gender: Male  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 37 on 8/21/2008 2:30 PM >   What would the police say if they caught you hanging off the third floor wall of a building carrying equipment that they could probably call burglars tools if you can't come up with another explantation? You may have an investigator's licence but wouldn't all of that raise a few questions? I agree with carrying extra lights and batteries, but I can't see why you would need some of the other fancy kit; I'd be worried about losing it or some such thing happening. "Sweat saves blood, blood saves lives, and brains save both." - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel hydrotherapy  Clever Girl Location: Circle of Least Confusion RPS is inside all of us  |  |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 38 on 8/21/2008 5:18 PM >   Posted by Zorb everything and the kitchen sink Wow. Just wow. And I thought I was a big girl for finally carrying a full size Gitzo about with me. Get down, girl, go 'head, get down. Zorb   |  Re: Common Tools <Reply # 39 on 8/21/2008 9:22 PM >   Posted by Blackbird What would the police say if they caught you hanging off the third floor wall of a building carrying equipment that they could probably call burglars tools if you can't come up with another explantation? You may have an investigator's licence but wouldn't all of that raise a few questions? ... Well, I don't take any sort of lock picking equipment, bump keys, or similar devices. I've never gotten so much as a lecture before for claiming I was using the fire escape or roof of a building to observe activities. Anyway, you always have someone spot for you. Worst is probably that I look like another overzealous investigator who is overstepping his bounds. Happens all the time, shouldn't - but it does. I started this stuff on my own a few years back. I had no base of suggestions to start from, so this "shopping cart" strategy worked well. I saw some really interesting photography on something someone submitted to Reddit early this year, which what showed me that there is actually an online following of this sort of thing. I used to have a lock pick set with me, for example, until I went into investigation, and one of the simple rules is to never put yourself into a position where you can be accused of being equipped for breaking and entering. You can break a window with a rock, but can't be accused of being equipped to break in for carrying a rock. You CAN be accused of being equipped for B&E by carrying a spring-impact glass breaking tool, porcelain "white rocks" or "ninja rocks", or a glass cutter. I only have a short bladed knife too. All my other tools are either electricians' tools (for my own safety) or PI tools (to avoid detection). IR meter detects night vision cameras. Do I want to park on the dark (public) road in front of a home or business and watch+catalog the cars coming and going if they can see me? Go into an old building, crank up the gain, and push the button on the 200EP tester. The silence is reassuring. I know they don't have any power within range of a detectable electromagnetism. Also, the hooks are really useful in utility tunnels. I took a microwave detector when I went up a couple old AT&T Long Lines towers a couple years ago. Had to make sure they had nothing there. Yes, I checked with the FCC, there were no licenses, just a tall structure registry with the FAA. Better to be safe than sorry. RF is a dangerous thing in large amounts. Also, I don't take nearly this much when I look around old farm buildings and the like. I have a simpler belt with holsters for two flashlights, A640, and water for drinking. Might go back for my climbing set if I like the silo and want to go up if it's not too high (or I can get high enough to get to the top first) and take a couple pictures off of it. Maybe I should have titled my entry "and some uncommon tools". What's someone going to say when I take my radio set on top of a peak in the upper peninsula of Michigan, just to see how far 5 watts on shortwave will get me? Either way, I've encountered cops four times. Two times they essentially said "whatever", one time I was told not to go inside and that the fire ladders or roof may be unstable so I shouldn't be up there, and one time I was actually told to leave and that I should absolutely not be there, that the building is now owned by the city and was uncertain what to do with it. That brings up another point, a lot of the time I go places with no current ownership records or are city owned and slated for demolition and redevelopment in the next couple years, which means no chance of accusation of burglary. Additionally, my Soviet respirator is important in case of asbestos or potentially sickening molds. Note that I don't carry a geiger counter with me, I used to as well, due to radioactive devices used in some heavy industry (especially in the past). I don't have a cornerscope (parascope like device) which IS in my "spy kit" normally. I've been pretty careful with what I carry, so we will see. I really doubt there will ever be any trouble due to any of my toys, and if I lose something, whatever. Nothing I carry is over $150, except my cameras. The A640's about $250 now and the E-10 is about $300-400 on Ebay now. On the rare instance I would take my E-3, that's another story (about $2700 for the camera with my usual lens) then. 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