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 Silent Knight
    
Location: Niagara region
Gender: Male
Kastle Archives Productions Inc. (since 1999)
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<Reply # 20 on 5/31/2008 6:09 PM >
|  | | | I'd be happy to give you prints like these and let you use the images however you like. I've done this many times before in other high security locations (show them). I'm happy to sign a waiver"
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Excellent advice about offering to give them copies of the pics you take. I've done that twice now - Atlas Metals in Welland and the old Domtar building in St. Kitts. Both times the owners/managers were very pleased to receive copies of the shots on cdrom - and I'm sure it only improved my chances of possibly getting in to other buildings they may have authority over.
In the case of the Domtar building, one of the consortium owners even took the time to give me a lengthy tour of the site, and filled me in on a ton of historical anecdotes along the way. He also talked about future plans, soil remediation, etc. Stuff I wouldn't have heard had I'd only snuck on to the site.
You can always tell when you're watching Canadian television - the actors in the show are the same ones doing the commercials. |
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don cornelius
 
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Location: Your asshole.
Proud Parent
| | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 21 on 5/31/2008 6:13 PM >
| | | | Posted by Silent Knight
I constantly ask permission from property owners - usually for locations that are more risk than I care to take without permission. I've never kept track of the ratio of permission granted as opposed to being denied, but I'd hazard a guess at roughly 60-70% of the time its granted.
But that's not to say I don't go to a lot of low-risk places without permission, of course. But I much prefer having the go-ahead from a location owner rather than gamble on gettin' nailed.
Usually I spin a "I'm a historical archivist" story of some sort. It also helps to have some expensive camera gear along as a persuasive 'prop' so you look the part of a serious photographer. Better yet, a business card is also a good idea.
Name-drop a few locations you've been to in the past when asking permission, too. It can make you sound like an accomplished and experienced individual. |
agreed, but the last part is extra true.
40+ year olds with Myspace pages are not cool, they are pediphiles on the prowl. Buyer beware. |
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maypost
  
Location: North, South, East, West, all around... then down to the underground
Gender: Male
Exploring if for n00bz0rz
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 22 on 5/31/2008 6:18 PM >
| | | | The absolute two most amazing places I have ever seen were done with permission. There is no shame is getting a tour by the owners, for me at least. As long as you are enjoying the experience, I see nothing wrong with the social networking side of exploring.
Exploring is like tattoos... They stopped being cool in 2005
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Valdyr
Location: Boulder, CO
Gender: Female
[space for rent]
| |  |  |  | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 23 on 6/4/2008 11:49 AM >
| | | | I know that other explorers can look down their noses at asking permission, but really...being able to talk your way into a location can take just as much skill as sneaking around. There's definitely an art and method to it (as others have pointed out).
Also, you might find that the people letting you in know A LOT more about the place and can show you things you might not have found on your own or had access to. In particular, I used to work at the Hotel Roanoke a few years back, and one day one of the security officers gave me a tour of all of the hidden historical areas in the center, including a hidden suite on the fourth floor that had only been discovered earlier that decade. It had been built with illicit funds from the railroad back in the day, and the old owners had covered it up when they sold it.
No one else is gonna be able to get to that unless you get security to let you in. Period. So there are some definite advantages to getting permission!
[not saved alone, but together we are exiled] |
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IDChris
Location: Southern Idaho Wasteland
Gender: Male
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 24 on 6/4/2008 6:16 PM >
| | | | If you have the means, definitely get permission. As the above poster said, you can gleen more info and access from owners than you can on your own in many cases. Also when you are there with permission, you have more time and less stress and you can concentrate on taking in the site rather than worrying about getting caught, unless that's part of the thrill for you.
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rainman8889
Location: H.T.S.F.C. Time to gain and a time to lose.
Bye for now.
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 25 on 10/11/2008 12:46 PM >
| | | | Posted by Mickael
I don't have a problem with asking for permission or people who asks for permission.
I don't think that "legal UE" is a bad thing.
Why risk a trespassing and/or B&E charge when the owner can gladly let you in ?
Sometimes, you just don't have the choice but to ask for permission.
P.S: Moved this thread to the "rookie" section
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Well put.
Worked for me and Shutterbug. Was allowed to go through the place, take our time and get as many shots as we wanted. Had a few really neat features pointed out to us before.
Go for it. The worst the owners can do is say "No".
Gone for a while. Be back when I'm back. |
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sYnOnYx
Location: Las Vegas , NV
Gender: Male
what happens here, doesnt stay here.
| |  | | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 26 on 10/12/2008 11:50 PM >
| | | | Make friends with security guards.
My old roomate was one , and it allowed me to go into a couple abandoned / For sale locations.
Alot of security guards out here wouldnt mind letting someone in for some free lunch, and they usally have to do a round or two around the property anyways.
Id rather get in with permission , and knowing I have all the time I want.
but sometimes the rush is part of the fun.
My Ongoing Blog: :http://www.realismphotography.com/ |
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chumpster
Location: chicago
Gender: Male
Mondo Rondo
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 27 on 10/13/2008 12:02 AM >
| | | | Posted by Max12
sneaking in is half the fun!
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exactly . You actually have to put some thought into it and you always get really excited when sneaking in or out of a spot
http://flickr.com/photos/applefaces/ |
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 28 on 10/13/2008 8:02 AM >
| | | | A lot of times finding the right people to ask is the hard part.
"Random Security Company" would be an assured "no".
"The Owner" of the property might say different.
One of the pain in the ass things about asking is; if you ask and get a "no" and someone (not even you) breaks in and does something you're name will be the first to come to mind.
I just ask the state cop to bend down for a minute to pick up that free dozen dunkin doughnuts coupon I just dropped while I climb through that window... that way we can both be happy; he did not see me commit a crime and he doesn't have to arrest me and ruin his day 
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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Steed
 
Location: Edmonton/Seoul
Gender: Male
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Race Traitor
| | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 29 on 10/13/2008 8:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by racetraitor
My ****** got a government job that involves cleaning out a very noteworthy abandoned building, and I asked her to take me there soon. Not going to slip any more details, just say that it's going to drop a lot of jaws when I do it.
No, I don't think getting permission is bad. It gets you in places others can't go, and isn't that the ultimate goal of UE?
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Since I mentioned it earlier, I might as well tell the rest of the story. I didn't get permission, but with a close tie to a worker with full access, it was easy to sneak me in.
[last edit 10/13/2008 9:02 AM by Steed - edited 1 times]
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Lord Nikon
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
| | |  | | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 30 on 10/13/2008 3:08 PM >
| | | | Posted by DJ Craig
Also, what is the best way to find out who owns a building and get in touch with them?
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County government GIS systems are great places to look for owners of property. If you know what county the property lies in and the street name, you should be able to visit the county government's website and look it up there. Look for something labeled "Property Info" or "Assessed Property Inquiry."
Here's an example from my state: http://www.richlan...assessorsearch.asp
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shellyl
Location: Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 31 on 10/13/2008 8:07 PM >
| | | | As far as I am concerned it doesn't matter. For some it is the thrill of seeing the location and others it is the thrill of getting in and out with nobody knowing you were there. In the end the only thing that matters is if you hit the pillow with a smile and some nice memories.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
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Insitor
Location: above and below the midwest
Gender: Male
a firm believer in brawn over brains
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 32 on 10/15/2008 7:12 PM >
| | | | While I do enjoy the thrill of sneaking in to places, I am going to ask the owner of my next target because the other ways that I could get inside would definitely be B&E, like prying of locks or boards-and its on a main street, just down the block from the police station. I'll let you know how it goes. And hey, if it doesn't work, I'll still sneak in...
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Kemper
Location: A dark hole in the ground
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 33 on 10/21/2008 10:22 PM >
| | | | I feel like it would almost kill the excitement of getting into a location if you got permission and had the front door unlocked for you. I didn't buy that spandex ninja suit for nothing...
I might try and contact the owner of a certain building I want to get into though, since the whole thing is quite intricately sealed up. Theres just something fun about going somewhere without permission though.
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Chromatic
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<Reply # 34 on 10/27/2008 7:17 PM >
| | | | I am going to echo what a couple others have said, in that with any kind of public or corporate facilities you can expect a flat NO.
That said, Ive gotten into some places in pretty high-traffic areas (some I wouldn't have the balls to risk) by simply calling up the owner. I usually say that I am a film student working on a movie for a major film festival. Soooo many people are utterly captivated by the prospect of getting some limelight by association with a successful movie that they eagerly say yea.
Doing this, Ive gotten into an abandoned fishing boat caught on a reef, an abandoned publix, an old Coca Cola bottling plant, and the top forgotten floors of the Belleview Builtmore in Clearwater (+more!).
If you have nothing to hide, a bit of diplomacy can get you far!
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billowillo
Location: kearns,utah
Gender: Male
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 35 on 10/28/2008 3:59 AM >
| | | | The only time ive ever gone into a place to take pictures was with permission, its always worth a shot especially if you know what to say.
"im like one of those dudes u see on daytime television who takes off his pants and lights them on fire then sings a song bout his feelings."-FireJak of the tbs forums |
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person
Location: cincinnati
Gender: Male
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 36 on 11/2/2008 8:21 PM >
| | | | No on getting permission. Just no.
Sneaking is half the fun.
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adaliz
Location: Ft. Lauderdale Area, Florida
Gender: Female
| | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 37 on 11/2/2008 8:43 PM >
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never tried getting permission
No on getting permission. Just no.
Sneaking is half the fun. |
absolutely agreed.
Life is too short to drink bad wine. |
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MHInc
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Location: Niagara Falls, Ontario Canada
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 38 on 11/2/2008 8:54 PM >
| | | | Posted by adaliz
never tried getting permission
absolutely agreed.
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When you get arrested for sneaking around, rather than asking permission with the possibility of gaining access legally to a location, don't come crying to us.
There is no shame in asking for permission. It's the same place. As much of a thrill I do get about being in a building without permission. If there is the chance of getting said permission I would also take that route first.
Being there legally gives you time to get the pics you want and explore in full.
MH Inc. Photography Canada
http://www.mhinccanada.com
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Getting permission to go in
<Reply # 39 on 11/2/2008 9:05 PM >
| | | | I've only asked permission a few times, and have had mixed results. I asked a client of mine if I could photograph his abandoned chemical factory, and he said no (so I'm doing it the old fashioned way). Then I asked the US Military if I could photograph a site I have no business going to, and they said yes (coming in 2009).
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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