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 SirJinx
    
Location: Los Angeles Area
Gender: Male
 |  | Trespassing Question
< on 5/7/2008 9:04 PM >
|  | | | *Note, I did do a search and read local trespassing laws, this is a question I couldn't find an exact answer on.
Okay so here is the question. You are trespassing on private property. At some point, the cops or security are called and they begin searching the property but don't find you.
You find some way off the property without being seen. You are now on public property and walking away, back to your car, acting innocent, etc.
The cops and/or security stop you outside the property and question if you were in the property. You say NO.
At this point, can you still be arrested and/or detained for trespass? Assume that you were not seen at any point inside the property.
People are weird. |
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don cornelius
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Location: Your asshole.
Proud Parent
| |  | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 1 on 5/7/2008 9:11 PM >
| | | | they cant do shit with out proof.
as long as you're not like some of the idiots on the other coast and dont take/ break stuff ( like radiators off the roof ) you are good to go.
40+ year olds with Myspace pages are not cool, they are pediphiles on the prowl. Buyer beware. |
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metawaffle
 
King of Puns
Location: Brisbane!
Gender: Male
Purveyor of Fine Lampshades
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 2 on 5/7/2008 9:25 PM >
| | | | If you think you're going to be nabbed, it might be worth deleting those incriminating digital photos, or leaving the memory card somewhere.
http://www.longexposure.net |
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SirJinx
Location: Los Angeles Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 3 on 5/7/2008 9:46 PM >
| | | | Moved to the rookie forum... =(
[last edit 5/8/2008 1:39 AM by SirJinx - edited 1 times]
People are weird. |
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Paranoid?
Gender: Male
F/RoX FTMFW
| |  | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 4 on 5/7/2008 9:54 PM >
| | | | Posted by SirJinx
Assume that you were not seen at any point inside the property.
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No research needed, If you weren't seen on the property then you weren't on the property.
and this question was moved to Rookie forum not because the think your a rookie, but most likely cuz its a rookie question.
"Take time to deliberate; but when the time for action arrives... stop thinking and go in."
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 5 on 5/7/2008 10:12 PM >
| | | | Posted by u25680
they cant do shit with out proof.
as long as you're not like some of the idiots on the other coast and dont take/ break stuff ( like radiators off the roof ) you are good to go.
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Or have admin blds tattooed (like my new tag line?) on their asses making for easy ID... most cops don't have time to waste playing hide and seek.
They might haul you in just for giggles if someone is being just too funny... it's an 8 hour shift, they still get paid.
What if... they DO drag his ass downtown anyhow... just for giggles?
Maybe one of those police interrogators will break SirJinx like a 350 pound chorus girl slipping on a banana.
Sitting too close to the action can get messy.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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SirJinx
Location: Los Angeles Area
Gender: Male
| | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 6 on 5/7/2008 10:32 PM >
| | | | Posted by Paranoid?
No research needed, If you weren't seen on the property then you weren't on the property.
and this question was moved to Rookie forum not because the think your a rookie, but most likely cuz its a rookie question.
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Gotcha dude. I guess I can see their point... =)
[last edit 5/8/2008 1:40 AM by SirJinx - edited 1 times]
People are weird. |
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 7 on 5/7/2008 11:03 PM >
| | | | You should understand your state and federal trespass and B&E laws. Avoid turning a hobby into a costly career decision.
In general though, avoid pissing off cops; lying by omission is only such if you don't snicker when you do it!
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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terapr0
Location: Sauga City
Gender: Male
www . tohellandback . net
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 8 on 5/7/2008 11:25 PM >
| | | | While the law would most likely be in your favour, the street outside an abandoned building sure as shit aint no court room, and your average cop sure as hell aint no judge.
Its been my experience with the police that, while being polite and courteous is always going to act in your favor...all it takes is one prick cop to decide hes going to make an example of you or "teach you a lesson" and it doesnt even matter who you are, who you know or if you were doing anything wrong at all.
http://www.youtube...atch?v=NtQ99mCRM2g
[last edit 5/8/2008 1:50 AM by terapr0 - edited 1 times]
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don cornelius
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Location: Your asshole.
Proud Parent
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 9 on 5/8/2008 12:52 AM >
| | | | Posted by Boyington's bastard
Or have admin blds tattooed (like my new tag line?) on their asses making for easy ID... most cops don't have time to waste playing hide and seek.
They might haul you in just for giggles if someone is being just too funny... it's an 8 hour shift, they still get paid.
What if... they DO drag his ass downtown anyhow... just for giggles?
Maybe one of those police interrogators will break SirJinx like a 350 pound chorus girl slipping on a banana.
Sitting too close to the action can get messy.
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you got a point mi amigo.
a Tat is not always the best idea.
40+ year olds with Myspace pages are not cool, they are pediphiles on the prowl. Buyer beware. |
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insainly sound
Location: Bay Area, CA
Gender: Female
How'd we get here, and how are we getting out of here?!
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 10 on 5/8/2008 2:44 AM >
| | | | The key things to keep in your head is this public land? Did anyone see me in the site or coming out of the site?! If the officer suspects that you were in the site or there was a witness that saw you, then my understanding a detention would be somewhat ethical. However, my understanding is they CAN NOT SEARCH YOU! A warrentless search has limits to the reasons they can be conducted! However as always, plain site rules apply. If your camera is in visible sight, then the rules change a little. The important thing to remember is if they ask if they can search, look at your stuff, just say no!
On a side note, don't come on here and be a dick, bad mouthing mods never helped anyone! We're all glad that your the god of explorations, but please respect the community.....
Check out my photo blog! |
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Intrinsic
Location: Collingwood
Gender: Male
| | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 11 on 5/8/2008 3:44 AM >
| | | | It's like the smoking gun theory... you might be caught holding the gun but proof is still required that you fired it. Trespassing is the same concept... you might be near the property, but unless there is a witness...
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Ikky
Location: In Transit
^ROLAND LOOK HERE^
| | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 12 on 5/8/2008 5:06 AM >
| | | | Posted by terapr0
While the law would most likely be in your favour, the street outside an abandoned building sure as shit aint no court room, and your average cop sure as hell aint no judge.
Its been my experience with the police that, while being polite and courteous is always going to act in your favor...all it takes is one prick cop to decide hes going to make an example of you or "teach you a lesson" and it doesnt even matter who you are, who you know or if you were doing anything wrong at all.
http://www.youtube...atch?v=NtQ99mCRM2g
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Whoa, what happened in the end?
I make love the same way I resolve arguments. With my fists. |
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 13 on 5/8/2008 6:15 AM >
| | | | Posted by Iqueld
Whoa, what happened in the end?
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DUDE! Don't feel bad, this story has a happy ending!
Tard boy's mom & dad bought it in a huge head-on collision, but TB was safe at home, grounded for sassing the cops.
Now he's free to skateboard anywhere he pleases, even the mayor's ass crack.
SGT Riviera also is happy; he's became a DI at Paris Island. He truly finds deep satisfaction everyday now in his work.
One day Tard boy decided he really needed to be tough, so he up into the few and the proud. Who your Daddy?
The Marine Special Revue board declined to act on urgent request from a young bootie about an oppressively brutal DI.
It's a fact!
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 14 on 5/8/2008 1:49 PM >
| | | | If they can't prove it, they legally can't do anything, but that doesn't mean they wont. If a cop asks to see whats on your camera, say they can't. You don't have to consent to a search until you are placed under arrest.
grit your teeth in the face of fear. self repression is the true sign of a coward, toss your inhibitions to the wind. |
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NoSuchPerson
 
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 15 on 5/8/2008 5:12 PM >
|  | | | What everyone else said is true. However, keep in mind that just because you weren't seen on the property doesn't mean you can't be arrested for it. Sure you probably wouldn't be convicted but just the whole process would be enough of a financial burden that itself would become your "sentence".
Depending on where you live dictates the specific laws in question, but here in Ontario, a Police Officer or Security Guard can still arrest you off property if he/she has good reason to believe youy were up to no good on the property.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 16 on 5/8/2008 7:29 PM >
| | | | You can be detained... police don't need a good reason to hold you.
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willskith
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 17 on 5/8/2008 8:26 PM >
| | | | Posted by Glass
You can be detained... police don't need a good reason to hold you.
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They can only hold you if you are under arrest, and they can only arrest you if you have done something wrong. If a cop is telling you to stay where you are, ask if you are under arrest. If they say no, you can just leave.
grit your teeth in the face of fear. self repression is the true sign of a coward, toss your inhibitions to the wind. |
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 18 on 5/9/2008 4:21 AM >
| | | | Police can detain you for investigation for up to 48 hours up here. This is without charging you.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: Trespassing Question
<Reply # 19 on 5/9/2008 5:09 AM >
| | | | Posted by exkalibur
Police can detain you for investigation for up to 48 hours up here. This is without charging you.
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Not sure how long it is in the US, but they sure as hell can detain you while they sort things out.
They can also search you for weapons if they fear for their safety or others. They have a lot of gray area to work with if you act like an asshole.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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