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 Trevzilla
  
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Gender: Male
To hell with purple people....unless they're suffocating, Help Them!
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<Reply # 20 on 9/6/2007 11:01 AM >
|  | | | Nothing wrong with a little self-exploration.......or with exploring alone for that matter. If you're going somewhere you may get in trouble, tell somebody, or leave a note or something. Everything I do now is alone, mostly due to the lack of explorers kicking around here, but I never had any problems...although there aren't really any squatters around here.
You're only as young as who you feel! |
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NoSuchPerson
    
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
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<Reply # 21 on 9/6/2007 11:05 AM >
| | | | Posted by Deuterium
If you get held at a gun point, you're pretty much screwed regardless of size.
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If you get held at gun point you're a fucking idiot for getting into that situation in the first place.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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944kid
Location: PJ, NY
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<Reply # 22 on 9/6/2007 11:27 AM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
If you get held at gun point you're a fucking idiot for getting into that situation in the first place.
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Not always, grasshoppa.
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
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<Reply # 23 on 9/6/2007 11:28 AM >
| | | | Naw. I'm quite sure you couldn't postulate a situation where it isn't preventable before the gun comes out, or to avoid getting shot.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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944kid
Location: PJ, NY
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 24 on 9/6/2007 11:38 AM >
| | | | Posted by ExKa|iBuR
Naw. I'm quite sure you couldn't postulate a situation where it isn't preventable before the gun comes out, or to avoid getting shot.
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Guy comes out of a room, gun drawn. Said he heard people coming into his "home." He's on all sorts of good drugs.
You're in a room on the top floor of an abandoned office building. When you turn to go out the door, there's a crazed madman holding a Desert Eagle waiting to put cherry pie all over the wall after he steals your wallet...
What do you do??
Seriously, lose the attitude. Situations postulated, I could do it all day.
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Trevzilla
Location: St. John's, Newfoundland
Gender: Male
To hell with purple people....unless they're suffocating, Help Them!
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 25 on 9/6/2007 12:39 PM >
| | | | Anything's possible, but I haven't heard of too many people being held at gunpoint while exploring....probably because they were never heard from again.
You're only as young as who you feel! |
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shellyl
 
Location: Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 26 on 9/6/2007 1:02 PM >
| | | | Posted by Trevzilla
Anything's possible, but I haven't heard of too many people being held at gunpoint while exploring....probably because they were never heard from again.
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In the 30+ years that I have been doing this I have only run across one dude with a gun. I was lost in sticks on a dirt road. The dumbass hick was out popping off woodchucks and was too drunk to realise he was pointing it in my face till I asked him not to. I have explored in NYC right down to itty bitty tiny camps in the mountains. Not saying that it will never happen but I see so many getting passionate about extremes around here. Be smart and go with your gut feelings and chances are you will be just fine.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
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NoSuchPerson
Stop, or I'll ask you again!
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 27 on 9/6/2007 2:28 PM >
|  | | | You give him your wallet. It would be your own stupidity at that point if you got shot. No attitude here, sorry.
Unit calling radio say again? |
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mANVIL
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 28 on 9/6/2007 5:48 PM >
| | | | Posted by brandnewteeth
Is one of the few joys in life.
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Amen
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IDChris
Location: Southern Idaho Wasteland
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 29 on 9/6/2007 7:28 PM >
| | | | I prefer going alone to houses and barns. Most are fairly predictable, so I know what I should expect. If I knew there might be potential problems, I would leave a note on the fridge or call the wife or a friend with the location.
In the past, I've gone with some buddies (non-UE, of course), but as was mentioned, they weren't what you would call "stealth" and there's always at least a couple who seem to have a vandalizing kick, so for now, I'm a loner.
I woudln't really do a drain, bad neighborhood, or large industrial or commercial building without another UE'er, maybe 2.
15 years ago, I lived in Chico, CA and made a trip to the Titan Base alone. I was supposd to meet friends there who had gone ahead and been dropped off. They said they would be in the control dome. It was freaky because when I was down there, you couldn't hear any voices-just wind and pigeons, and it was nighttime. Very nerve-racking because if you think you hear a noise or voice, you turn your flashlight off to see if any light is around the corner, and avoid stepping off any ledges. It was pitch black. I didn't want to yell out for fear of who else might be down there. Turns out, not a soul. I combed the whole place alone before deciding to leave. They weren't in the control dome and turns out, they never left Chico. I always look back at this and realize how very stupid this excursion was. I've been in the site before and had a map that a dorm buddy printed out, so I at least knew my way around.
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eoghan
Location: dormont pa
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 30 on 9/6/2007 8:39 PM >
| | | | any time situational awareness will trump any thing but sheer bad luck. and this comes from a guy that carries a gun every day and has all his adult life.
if you carry a gun you understand what a responsibility it is and you will do almost anything to avoid using it. so you always pay attention to your surroundings and situation. you should always avoid any potential confrontation if at all possible. that's what that spongy lump at the top of your spine is for.
eoghan
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats... -H.L. Mencken
dude, if you ever shoot me with a .25, and i find out about it, i'll kick yer ass! |
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
Fewer and Fewer...
| |  |  | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 31 on 9/7/2007 5:33 PM >
| | | | I myself always go alone, I actually feel safer that way: The only sounds I hear are my own, so I can put more of my attention on the important things, scouting the location for good shots, studying the feel of the floor under my feet, listening for tell tale creaks of straining wood, metal, etc. Still, I carry a 5 inch switchblade with me whenever I explore, just for security.
Also the awe and wonder of exploring a building alone is incomparable: The silence, the stillness in the air, just me my camera and the scene. I love it...
I just wish there was more abandonments in my area...
Softly creeping through
Empty hallways decades old,
glimpsing history. |
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shellyl
Location: Lenoir NC
Gender: Female
I have learned not sweat the petty things and not to pet the sweaty things.
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 32 on 9/7/2007 7:10 PM >
| | | | Posted by gr8fzy1
I myself always go alone, I actually feel safer that way: The only sounds I hear are my own, so I can put more of my attention on the important things, scouting the location for good shots, studying the feel of the floor under my feet, listening for tell tale creaks of straining wood, metal, etc. Still, I carry a 5 inch switchblade with me whenever I explore, just for security.
Also the awe and wonder of exploring a building alone is incomparable: The silence, the stillness in the air, just me my camera and the scene. I love it...
I just wish there was more abandonments in my area...
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I agree with your whole post except for the 5 inch blade. I might sound like a complete ass here but so be it. I have been trained to use guns, blades and other items and I carry none of them. If you are comfortable with one ok but, to get that close to someone to make a blade effective is a crap shoot at best. Getting caught with one on your person when doing nothing but trespassing can be sticky. A simple screw driver will get you in more trouble than you might consider worth it as they stick the Q-Tip in your yap for a DNA sample.
A mirage is not an optical illusion. It is a real phenomenon, and one can take photographs of it. The interpretation of the image, however, is up to the fantasy of the human mind.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| |  | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 33 on 9/7/2007 9:29 PM >
| | | | Posted by shellyl
I agree with your whole post except for the 5 inch blade. I might sound like a complete ass here but so be it. I have been trained to use guns, blades and other items and I carry none of them. If you are comfortable with one ok but, to get that close to someone to make a blade effective is a crap shoot at best. Getting caught with one on your person when doing nothing but trespassing can be sticky. A simple screw driver will get you in more trouble than you might consider worth it as they stick the Q-Tip in your yap for a DNA sample.
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Exactly, never carry any tools, or especially weapons.
Cops will not be tolerant of such non-sense if your already somewhere you don't belong.
Any place that feels unsafe without a weapon or numbers, is unsafe no matter what; avoid going there.
Packing and/or numbers is no excuse to take bigger risks, in fact just the opposite, as Eoghan pointed out as well.
Numbers increase your visibility to others, and increase your legal liabilities as well.
Stealth is your best ally, but only if you use it; less is better.
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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\/adder
Location: DunkarooLand
Gender: Male
I'm the worst of the best but I'm in this race.
| | | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 34 on 9/13/2007 12:01 AM >
| | | | Well it depends on where and when
I don't mind it ... sometimes big groups are a hassle sometimes you dont want to take a bunch of friends anywhere that mite suck... BUT you should tell someone you trust <not to call the cops> where you are likely to be ... just in case something happens you get hurt/trapped etc... then at least ppl will have a clue where to begin the search...
Definitely bring a Cell phone... go out and buy a trackfone or pay to go phone if you don't have one, or don't want to risk damaging your overpriced RAZOR <seriously got to Wallgreens they have them for <20$ w/ ten mins preloaded...> just in case
It really depends on the scenario... and even the seemingly "safest" UE's can turn dangerous... you have to be extra cautious on your own... but then again you don't have to keep track of where your buddies are either...
If you are brave enough to go on your own... try it... you can always come back w/ friends later... and trust your instincts if something doesn't "fell rite" then leave... better safe than sorry
Size really doesn't matter... except on intimidation level... and if you act mean... ppl and animals generally back down... I have a small frame 5'8" < 130lb and yet i can outrun most ppl and when backed into a corner can be way more dangerous than those "big dudes" because you never expect the smaller ones to be the most vicious .. sure you can kill the hornet with one good slap... but he can put you in a lot of pain before you get him...and if you are allergic...not good...
if you go alone; Go with your gut and hope for good circumstances...
you can always come back w/ a buddy some-other time...
"No risk, no reward, no fun."
"Go all the way or walk away"
escensi omnis... |
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jasonj
 
Location: Boise, Idaho
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 35 on 9/14/2007 5:18 AM >
| | | | Last time I explored a farmhouse on my own, I fell through the second floor and busted up my knee. It wasn't a smart idea. Thank god for cell phones.
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blitz
Location: Cumberland, ME
Good news!
| | | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 36 on 9/14/2007 4:07 PM >
| | | | "Couldn't have been cops, by law they have to announce their presence"
if you honestly think the cops actually need to announce their presence, your wrong. according to law, they may have too, but why would they? my friend was in an old factory and two cops followed him and when he turned a corner they grabbed him. for like 5 seconds he thought he was getting mugged.
"I might sound like a complete ass here but so be it. I have been trained to use guns, blades and other items and I carry none of them. If you are comfortable with one ok but, to get that close to someone to make a blade effective is a crap shoot at best."
most people don't keep knives with them for the intention of hurting somebody. a knife's primary purpose is as a tool, and if you come to a situation where you may need it to protect yourself, just drawing a knife is going to be intimidating, even if its somebody with a gun, unless they are like army trained, they are going to get a little unnerved.
if you're ever in a situation with homeless people or drug addicts, your best bet is to book it out of there (somebody who is on serious drugs probably wont even be able to avoiding running into walls, don't even worry about them keeping up with you). but a pack of cigarettes will usually do the trick.
I may not believe in marriage, but I do believe in best men. |
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gr8fzy1
Location: Waterbury, CT
Gender: Male
Fewer and Fewer...
| | | | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 37 on 9/14/2007 5:33 PM >
| | | | I only actually carried the switchblade when I explored The Anaconda America Brass Company in Waterbury. I KNEW the place was frequented my homeless and while I was there I encountered no less than 4 people...none of whom were mean. One was actually scared of ME, while two others warned me of a floor that had recently collapsed. When they asked what I was doing and I explained about my collection of photos, they thought it was cool and actually lead my to some of my favorite shots!
Needless to say, I no longer carry the knife...which I actually missplaced somewhere in my house!
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Softly creeping through
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glimpsing history. |
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T-mac
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Gender: Male
| | | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 38 on 9/14/2007 6:27 PM >
| | | | I've never done it, and probably never will.
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Noscopy
Gender: Male
| | Re: Exploring alone
<Reply # 39 on 9/14/2007 7:12 PM >
| | | | I'm still new to this group but have been exploring off and on for years. Unfortunately I've never encountered anyone from the north western PA area to go with and as such all my adventures have been alone. I think that the good and the bad even out because just as many times as I've wished for someone to be there to see whatever it is that im seeing, theres been a time when i knew i was better off as my own best friend. I never brought a gun or anything, but i have definitely found a few "walking" sticks in my time. The only thing that I've done from the safety side of things is to leave a note at home telling exactly where im going and when i plan to be back. Most of my closest friends and family know that i love to explore and as yet... *cross my fingers* I've always come back to happily throw it away, content that im the only one who knew 
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