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 yokes
     
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
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< on 5/17/2007 1:31 PM >
|  | | | Some good advice from a friend of a friend (chemical engineer) that was passed along after he checked out photos of mine.
My heart went cold when I saw the photos of the Carbo-Sil plant in
Niagara falls.
Carbon Silica is a very dangerous pathogen, lethal in very small doses.
It has a nuclear half life, just like spent nuclear fuel.
The old Firestone plant in Hamilton has been used to store the materials as
waste dust removed from this very facility as part of its clean up from many
years ago, until it could be shipped to the US for treatment. The long
history is a few transborder loads crossed, the rest of the stock pile
remains in this facility after the border was shut down because of the
dust's toxicity.
The part of the facility used to store this stuff has been rendered useless,
it is almost impossible to clean it all up to any semblance of low risk
exposure today. Most of the dust stock pile remains here, really
"Chernobyled", but with no concrete containment vessel.
Meanwhile some waste handling contractor made a bunch of loot and left a
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So be safe.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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RobTech
Location: 'da 305
Gender: Male
20 Year's, and still looking ...
| | | | Re: Know what you're getting into
<Reply # 1 on 5/17/2007 2:54 PM >
| | | | Good advice, you never know what your walking in to.
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 2 on 5/17/2007 8:51 PM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
Some good advice from a friend of a friend (chemical engineer) that was passed along after he checked out photos of mine.
So be safe.
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This is the one reason I never went to Carbo-Sil...but I didn't realize that the Firestone plant was used for storage of this crap. Hmm, that's good to know.
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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nightbird
   
Girl Moderator
Location: Buffalo, NY
Gender: Female
Gone abortin, BRB
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<Reply # 3 on 5/17/2007 8:54 PM >
| | | | Picnic at the love canal this weekend!
WTF indeed. |
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Know what you're getting into
<Reply # 4 on 5/17/2007 9:39 PM >
| | | | And I guess so my death is very slightly less in vain, here are the shots I got at Carbo-Sil 
http://www.flickr....mlg/tags/carbosil/
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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junkyard
Location: LaCrosse, WI
Gender: Male
Strategic Beer Command where the metal hits the meat.
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<Reply # 5 on 5/17/2007 9:48 PM >
| | | | Watch out! Bananas have a half life too (K-40). Whatever you do DON'T eat the bananas. You will surely die.
I drink gasoline for breakfeast and beer for dinner!
Any problem can be licked with a case of beer and a few sticks of dynamite.
Strategic Beer Command ruling the desert since 1995 http://www.strategic-beer-command.com |
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.
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<Reply # 6 on 5/17/2007 10:13 PM >
| | | | My uncle is a municipal engineer who had a similar response upon seeing my photo sets.
And yet, I survived Ramadi and Fallujah. . . . CarboSil ain't gonna' kill me.
Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into tall buildings. |
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maypost
Location: North, South, East, West, all around... then down to the underground
Gender: Male
Exploring if for n00bz0rz
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<Reply # 7 on 5/17/2007 10:17 PM >
| | | | Posted by DevilC
...CarboSil ain't gonna' kill me.
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um yeah, because you will never go there.
WWAAAWAWAWAWA!!!1!
Exploring is like tattoos... They stopped being cool in 2005
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Timothy R. Pendergast
Location: Columbia, SC
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 8 on 5/18/2007 12:23 AM >
| | | | Posted by DevilC
My uncle is a municipal engineer who had a similar response upon seeing my photo sets.
And yet, I survived Ramadi and Fallujah. . . . CarboSil ain't gonna' kill me.
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Those were big doses. It's only the small doses that kill you.
Please don't be stupid. It might piss me off so much that I have a seizure or something. I hate stupid people. |
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.
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<Reply # 9 on 5/18/2007 2:23 AM >
| | | | Posted by maypost
um yeah, because you will never go there.
WWAAAWAWAWAWA!!!1!
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Actually . . . . I went there in January of 2006.
That corridor of industry is one of the few that has ever caused me to don a mask and change on the way home.
[last edit 5/18/2007 2:27 AM by DevilC - edited 1 times]
Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into tall buildings. |
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Shr-eddie
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 10 on 5/18/2007 2:26 AM >
| | | | Will the P-100 filters do anything to stop this? I really want to check that place out.
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nootz
Location: Lake Echo, NS
Gender: Male
Many will always go where only one is needed
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<Reply # 11 on 5/18/2007 2:43 AM >
| | | | I don't know anything about nuclear half-life, or anything about nuclear physics, etc.
So that brings me to this question: What's up with the plantlife? Why is it all white??
Have faith only in those who you trust. And hold who you trust close to you for you have no idea when you will need them most.
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Shr-eddie
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 12 on 5/18/2007 2:46 AM >
| | | | Posted by nootz
I don't know anything about nuclear half-life, or anything about nuclear physics, etc.
So that brings me to this question: What's up with the plantlife? Why is it all white??
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I'm guessin he was shooting inferred which I still have to figure out how to do, I'm also guessing its a filter.
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Wiccan
Location: Hamilton Ontario
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 13 on 5/18/2007 2:54 AM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
Some good advice from a friend of a friend (chemical engineer) that was passed along after he checked out photos of mine.
So be safe.
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Well,that certainly is something. I was at the Firestone plant today (actually,very often) and it could explain why they're tearing the majority of it down.
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Know what you're getting into
<Reply # 14 on 5/18/2007 2:58 AM >
| | | | Posted by Shr-eddie
I'm guessin he was shooting inferred which I still have to figure out how to do, I'm also guessing its a filter.
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It is infrared, and it is a filter (Hoya R72)
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 15 on 5/18/2007 3:23 AM >
| | | | Posted by Shr-eddie
Will the P-100 filters do anything to stop this? I really want to check that place out.
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NOOOOOOOO, P100 will only protect you against asbestos fibres and certain types of fumes and Mold.
And after reading about this, it seems to be a compound used in Tire manufacturing, so I'd suspect any old tire facility as well in the future.
Can anyone with chem knowledge can explain this further, I couldn't find anything in laypersons terms....
[last edit 5/18/2007 3:26 AM by Air - edited 1 times]
"The extraordinary beauty of things that fail." - Heinrich von Kleist |
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Stewie
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Gender: Male
kill your idols
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<Reply # 16 on 5/18/2007 4:20 AM >
| | | | Just thought I'd throw in that I've been exploring the Firestone building for the past year a majority of times and I'm still alive. I have not even experienced anything out of the ordinary at all. I have also been through quite possibly the entire building.
I'm sure whatever was/is being stored there is not very toxic at all, considering the building shares walls with an active recycling facility that is staffed 5 days a week.
> The hierarchy of power dictates that the person with the most power does the least amount of work and retains the highest benefit. |
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Shr-eddie
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 17 on 5/18/2007 5:49 AM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
NOOOOOOOO, P100 will only protect you against asbestos fibres and certain types of fumes and Mold.
And after reading about this, it seems to be a compound used in Tire manufacturing, so I'd suspect any old tire facility as well in the future.
Can anyone with chem knowledge can explain this further, I couldn't find anything in laypersons terms....
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Do you think any other kinda of filters would work?
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Shr-eddie
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 18 on 5/18/2007 5:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
It is infrared, and it is a filter (Hoya R72)
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Can the same infrared lens work on a film camera and a digital camera?
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yokes
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
| | | | Re: Know what you're getting into
<Reply # 19 on 5/18/2007 11:26 AM >
| | | | Yes, an P72 should work on both. I think you need infrared film, though... but I know nothing about film IR photography.
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