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Location: Toronto
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<Reply # 20 on 5/18/2007 11:28 AM >
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Just thought I'd throw in that I've been exploring the Firestone building for the past year a majority of times and I'm still alive. I have not even experienced anything out of the ordinary at all. I have also been through quite possibly the entire building.
I'm sure whatever was/is being stored there is not very toxic at all, considering the building shares walls with an active recycling facility that is staffed 5 days a week.
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That's a great way to evaluate the safety of a situation if you do not care about long term health and safety. .. there are many many terrible substances that will have no impact on you for many years after exposure even in small doses.
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micro
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<Reply # 21 on 5/18/2007 1:07 PM >
| | | | I told you some of those places in Niagara Falls were bad news.
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micro
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<Reply # 22 on 5/18/2007 1:40 PM >
| | | | Oh yeah, the ground around Carbo-sil has been known to spontaneously catch on fire now and again. I'd probably be less concerned about what's stored inside the buildings than what got buried underground when the place was in operation.
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yokes
Location: Toronto
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<Reply # 23 on 5/18/2007 1:53 PM >
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I told you some of those places in Niagara Falls were bad news.
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No doubt. I don't think I've explored a building there since.
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 24 on 5/18/2007 1:55 PM >
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Do you think any other kinda of filters would work?
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Not for that shit.
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Air
Location: Canada
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<Reply # 25 on 5/18/2007 1:56 PM >
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Oh yeah, the ground around Carbo-sil has been known to spontaneously catch on fire now and again. I'd probably be less concerned about what's stored inside the buildings than what got buried underground when the place was in operation.
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The fact that is also is used as an illegal dumping ground for also god knows what, I don't think its a good site to explore either. There so much less harmful stuff in the area to check out.
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yokes
Location: Toronto
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<Reply # 26 on 5/18/2007 2:04 PM >
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The fact that is also is used as an illegal dumping ground for also god knows what, I don't think its a good site to explore either. There so much less harmful stuff in the area to check out.
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I'm not sure if many sites in that area could be considered safe. "Differently hazardous" perhaps. Or just plain unknown. 
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yokes
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<Reply # 27 on 5/18/2007 2:06 PM >
| | | | I did more reading on Carbo-Sil... it seems they used "Silicon Carbide". When I looked this material up on the materials data sheet, it didn't seem particularly hazardous. Does anyone here know if that is the same as Carbon Silica (referenced in the original email)?
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micro
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<Reply # 28 on 5/18/2007 2:06 PM >
| | | | Posted by Air 33
Not for that shit.
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I think that if it's just dust, then a p100 respirator would be fine.
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I don't know about that. Given that the entire city's one big chemical dump, I wouldn't assume anything industrial in the area is too good for your health.
Anyways.. lesson learned here: don't lick anything while exploring industrial locations.
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yokes
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<Reply # 29 on 5/18/2007 2:07 PM >
| | | | Posted by micro
Anyways.. lesson learned here: don't lick anything while exploring industrial locations.
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Possibly the best advice given in the Rookie Forum.
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micro
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<Reply # 30 on 5/18/2007 2:11 PM >
| | | | Posted by yokes
I did more reading on Carbo-Sil... it seems they used "Silicon Carbide". When I looked this material up on the materials data sheet, it didn't seem particularly hazardous. Does anyone here know if that is the same as Carbon Silica (referenced in the original email)?
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Yeah, I did the same thing. Carbon Silica gets used to make tired (hence the Firestone connection) and Silicon Carbon was used to make industrial ceramics which seems more in line with what what Carbo-Sil/National Carbon/Union Carbide used to manufacture in NF. Your friend of a friend probably got the two mixed up.
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yokes
Location: Toronto
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<Reply # 31 on 5/18/2007 2:14 PM >
| | | | Likely just made the leap to Carbon Silica based on the name. Maybe I won't die a horrible death just yet.
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<Reply # 32 on 5/18/2007 2:26 PM >
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Maybe I won't die a horrible death just yet.
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YET. . . . . .
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yokes
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<Reply # 33 on 5/18/2007 2:58 PM >
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YET. . . . . .
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It is how I start every morning.
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micro
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<Reply # 34 on 5/18/2007 3:02 PM >
| | | | Well, if Carbo-sil doesn't kill you, then that case of syphilis probably will.
I told you not to lick that.
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blacklines
 
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<Reply # 35 on 5/18/2007 3:07 PM >
| | | | Ive been doing some research on the carbo sil facility as well as on "carbon silica"... I can find references to it in steel and tire manufacturing, and I have an MSDS listing for "carbosil" which may or may not be the same thing as "carbon silica" as I am unable to find an MSDS on "carbon silica" According to the MSDS link below, "carbosil" is not a carcinogen, and presents mostly a minor inhalation hazard... (http://www2.hazard.../f2/bqy/bqyjx.html) It goes on to say that "carbosil" refers to something that cabot manufacturing seems to have branded--can anyone tell me if this is the same stuff that they have at the carbosil location? It sounds to me like they were manufacturing silicon carbide, which is commonly found in abrasives used for cutting and grinding a variety of materials (from glass to metal) due to its being nearly as hard (or as hard? correct me if im off here) as diamonds... If this is the case (that they were producing silicon carbide), I dont think that the site itself presents an immediate danger in terms of what it had been producing, but obviously I cant comment on what the illegal dumping situation may or may not be as Ive not been there, nor can I find any EPA data on it. Hope this is helpful.
blacklines
PS: I dont know if the OP worded it this way or not, but even if "carbon silica" were radioactive or a carcinogen of some type, it would not be a pathogen. The word pathogen is reserved for biological agents that cause infection or disease... A minor point, but worth knowing, IMHO.
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yokes
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<Reply # 36 on 5/18/2007 3:09 PM >
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Well, if Carbo-sil doesn't kill you, then that case of syphilis probably will.
I told you not to lick that.
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I can't resist Manitou
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manitou
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<Reply # 37 on 5/18/2007 3:56 PM >
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I can't resist Manitou
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You will be glad to hear that I recently grew a vagina. There is no guarantee that licking it will not put you in contact with some serious carcinogens though.
On a more serious note: after reading this I am glad that I missed out on that one trip to Carbo-Sil, and that any subsequent attempt that I was involved in failed.
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Shr-eddie
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<Reply # 38 on 5/18/2007 9:18 PM >
| | | | So if Carbo sil is like a fine dust, a P100 should prevent something...
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blacklines
Location: the red stick.
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<Reply # 39 on 5/18/2007 10:07 PM >
| | | | if carbosil is silicon carbide, and there is silicon carbide dust present, a p100 will do you just fine.
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