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 benstern
 
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Location: phoenix, az
Gender: Male
It's most dry down here
 |  |  | Hydraulic cutting tool?
< on 4/17/2007 1:36 AM >
|  | | | Would a handheld hydraulic cutting tool be useful enough to permit bringing one on urbex trips?
Kind of like
this
If so, should I buy it?
[last edit 4/17/2007 1:36 AM by benstern - edited 1 times]
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Speed
   
Location: Philly area
Gender: Male
Retired Explorer
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 1 on 4/17/2007 2:09 AM >
| | | | brace yourself for the lesson in ethics that sure to ensue regarding your post.
on topic though..... I honestly see no use for such a tool in the UE tool bag of tricks.
I'd hate to have that on my person or in my vehicle upon questioning by LEO.
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benstern
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Location: phoenix, az
Gender: Male
It's most dry down here
| | | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 2 on 4/17/2007 2:18 AM >
| | | | Now that you put it that way, it does seem kind of shady.
[last edit 4/17/2007 2:19 AM by benstern - edited 1 times]
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Brind
 
Location: Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
| |  | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 3 on 4/17/2007 3:50 AM >
| | | | Ethics aside, if you get caught with one of those, you're likely to be fucked.
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aaronni
Location: South Puget Sound
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 4 on 4/17/2007 4:14 AM >
| | | | If you're going to "make entrances" when you UE there's a sliding scale of tools where the more specialised your gear is the more you'll be screwed.
Screwdrivers are suspicious, that line cutter screams professional.
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Glass
 
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 5 on 4/17/2007 4:29 AM >
| | | | If I had a 'Jaws of Life' unit I think I'd use it for... eeeevile!
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Shawn W.
Location: Niagara Falls, NY
Gender: Male
Optimistic Pessimist
| | | | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 6 on 4/17/2007 4:34 AM >
| | | | Posted by benstern
Would a handheld hydraulic cutting tool be useful enough to permit bringing one on urbex trips?
Kind of like
this
If so, should I buy it? |
Very bad idea.
What is a rebel? A man who says no. - Albert Camus |
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IDChris
Location: Southern Idaho Wasteland
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 7 on 4/17/2007 6:59 PM >
| | | | It'll be great, until you get caught by the cops. Then the charges will grow from a simple trespassing charge to much more. Also, if you have to use this tool to get in, then maybe you shouldn't be ue'ing that place.
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vic_vr6
Location: portland, or
Gender: Male
disco stu doesnt advertise.
| | | | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 8 on 4/17/2007 10:43 PM >
| | | | honestly what would you need to cut with that?
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Sketchbag
Location: North Vancouver
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 9 on 4/18/2007 1:07 AM >
| | | | Sure it'd be cool... but damn those things DESTROY doors, if you got caught with this you'd be screwed.. but I guess you'd be screwed if you were caught with a crowbar or any other sort of "b+e" equipment.
the only hardcore tool I'd ever end up bringing anywhere with me would be one of these:
"put one up for shackle-me-not clean logic procreation. i did not invent the wheel, i was the crooked spoke adjacent." |
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Glass
Location: Chicago
as one does
| | | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 10 on 4/18/2007 4:23 AM >
| | | | Posted by Sketchbag
Sure it'd be cool... but damn those things DESTROY doors, if you got caught with this you'd be screwed.. but I guess you'd be screwed if you were caught with a crowbar or any other sort of "b+e" equipment.
the only hardcore tool I'd ever end up bringing anywhere with me would be one of these:
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So getting caught with a knife = getting caught with a bazooka?
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Sketchbag
Location: North Vancouver
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 11 on 4/18/2007 4:31 AM >
| | | | No, I meant "screwed" as a general term. You'd obviously be much more screwed if you were caught with some of the equipment mentioned..
"put one up for shackle-me-not clean logic procreation. i did not invent the wheel, i was the crooked spoke adjacent." |
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Hi/Po
Location: Earth
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 12 on 4/18/2007 5:08 AM >
| | | | Besides, once you start B/E like this, where would you draw the line? If there's a historically/architecturally significant building, gaining entry through explicit damage that a tool of this nature would create invites vandals and scavengers to put the building to reuse in a perverse and ugly manner. It'll get it demolished faster. Keep your presence to a minimum, only reveal the building to people you trust would appreciate its significance. Not all buildings are worth distressing over, but the point is by avoiding the use of these kinds of tools you might become more reflective and actually find something meaningful about the building instead of something purely to tell strangers online about.
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WhiteCollarBoy
Location: Chicago, Il
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 13 on 4/18/2007 5:31 AM >
| | | | That ebay seller's listings are like a B&E toybox! haha.
If I were draining, I'd consider a tool like that in case of getting locked in and needing to get out...or to gain entry...maybe.
Otherwise, I just want one of those, or some thing more heavy-duty (think jaws of life) just to cut the crap out of stuff. It sure would make disposing of old appliances a lot easier. Old people too.
Wow, I need to go to sleep.
"It would be nice if I could blink (like Jeannie) and make some of you be afflicted with legs that are like pogo sticks, yes, pogo sticks, for the rest of your lives, and all of the ink shall run from your proud tattoos until it reforms on your foreheads only to spell out, "I am a demanding Bitch, everything should be my way." - JT Colfax |
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rainman8889
Location: H.T.S.F.C. Time to gain and a time to lose.
Bye for now.
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 14 on 4/19/2007 1:13 AM >
| | | | Posted by Speed
brace yourself for the lesson in ethics that sure to ensue regarding your post.
on topic though..... I honestly see no use for such a tool in the UE tool bag of tricks.
I'd hate to have that on my person or in my vehicle upon questioning by LEO.
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Exactly.
Bad idea bringing this tool with you. If you were caught with it, you're gonna have a lot of 'splainin' to do!
Gone for a while. Be back when I'm back. |
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Deuterium
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 15 on 4/19/2007 3:20 AM >
| | | | With a good hacksaw or an abrasive carbide blade for hacksaw, you should have no problem making one, slow entry.
Why do you need a tool for repetitive cutting costing hundreds or even thousands of dollars? I'm thinking you're out to steal copper. I can't see how you can justify such an expensive tool just "one of the tools to have to get inside to explore."
And the user is after something listed specifically under electric cable cutters. I wonder who coached those bastards that steals cables from substations.
[last edit 4/19/2007 3:22 AM by Deuterium - edited 2 times]
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benstern
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Location: phoenix, az
Gender: Male
It's most dry down here
| | | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 16 on 4/19/2007 3:22 AM >
| | | | would a diamond cutting hacksaw blade exist? Cause that would cut extremely good.
what do you use?
I am not out to steal anything, it is just what popped up with a search of "hydraulic cutter" after a "jaws of life" search was fruitless.
[last edit 4/19/2007 3:24 AM by benstern - edited 1 times]
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Sketchbag
Location: North Vancouver
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 17 on 4/19/2007 4:20 PM >
| | | | If you really need to get in a door, assuming it's not welded shut, just use a bump key. They're easy to make, and much less incriminating. Also they don't rip the door right off its hinges, making the building an easy target for vandal/squatters.
"put one up for shackle-me-not clean logic procreation. i did not invent the wheel, i was the crooked spoke adjacent." |
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blacklines
Location: the red stick.
Gender: Male
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 18 on 4/19/2007 5:00 PM >
| | | | In reference to the "diamond cutting hacksaw" question.... First--its not a "diamond cutting hacksaw", it would be a diamond impregnated (or coated depending on how much you do or do not wish to spend).. This might make the process of manually sawing through a lock or a chain somewhat more efficient, but if youre really bent on breaking and entering, a bolt cutter would be a much quicker (and as a result probably less conspicuous) solution. I wont get into the ethics of any of these solutions other than to say that I wouldnt do it, but if someone else wants to, its on their ass.
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cybergibbons
| | Re: Hydraulic cutting tool?
<Reply # 19 on 4/19/2007 7:25 PM >
| | | | It's a fairly weak hydraulic CABLE cutter anyway. It won't do anything more than a pair of boltcutters, and any decent hardened or protected shackle lock will withstand attack anyway. There's always an easier way in, and if there isn't, wait for someone else to do the illegal work.
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