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1 2 3   UER Forum > Archived UE Main > Asking for donations for UE related web site (Viewed 1796 times) undercity  Location: Los Angeles, CA Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 20 on 3/2/2007 4:09 AM >   Posted by Panic! Okay I've been toying with the idea of asking for donations for my web site for quite some time. But I have been in two minds about it. Because while it is a rather large site (just about a GB of stuff and probably the second largest UE web site online) I have always figured well if I put it online then I should expect to pay for the costs involved. Only the costs involved will soon get rather expensive. Unlike many people who are into UE who can drive, ride or even walk to a plethora of UE sites I live in a bit of a UE desert. Canberra is a hole. It sucks any local good UE sites into the hole, chews them up and spits out housing developments. So to see good stuff I have to normally drive for a few hours. Or get on a plane. Which is why later on this year I am planning to travel to Europe and AmeriCanadia ala http://www.urbanadventure.org/main/rtex/ It'll be expensive. Very expensive. Oh, yeah, it's not hosting costs. But it is costs. This will result in lots of new pictures and video and even a bit of text on to my site. Which in turn will entertain people. So, is it reasonable to ask for donations for entertainment? I was thinking of offering something tangible in return. Such as making the images / video / etc of the trip only accessible to people who have donated. Or perhaps have people sponsor the Chernobyl trip section and have that accessible only to hose who have donated. Clearly I'm indecisive and undecided on this as I'm interested in community opinion and input. Having just explained why I don't donate to UER in another thread I am concious that it makes me look a bit hypocritical writing about donations in this thread. So feel free to not point that out to me or turn this into a shitfight because I'm not interested in arguing over carp like that. My question is, what do people think about making donations towards my trip and only providing access to the products of that trip to donators? you are such a freak. your "Traveling Companions" page is hilarious. steve www.undercity.org [email protected]"> Avatar-X  Alpha Husky Location: West Coast Gender: Male yay!  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 21 on 3/3/2007 5:12 PM >   I think you should be able to ask donations for any cause you want. But, I don't think you're going to get any unless it's a cause people care about and want to donate to. Does Panic have a large membership that might be willing to fund his worldwide trips? Maybe. Am I one of those members? No. I feel that in order for donations to be successful, you have to have an exchange in value. People value UER, both as a resource and as a place for them to connect and express themselves and to find a home, which is why they donate. Are Panic's potential donors getting an exchange in value? That's up to them to decide. -av huskies - such fluff. hotsauce  Gender: Male  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 22 on 3/4/2007 1:00 AM >   that traveling companions part is hilarious, no one is coming back alive from this trip! Tarr  Location: bodymore, murderland Gender: Male  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 23 on 3/7/2007 11:53 PM >   Posted by hotsauce that traveling companions part is hilarious, no one is coming back alive from this trip! yeah, no shit no one is coming back alive... from the sound of it, if anyone actually had to spend that much time with "panic" they'd likely kill themselves... You Build It. We'll Break Into It. el nerdo  Chief UER Lackey Gender: Male What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 24 on 3/9/2007 8:30 AM >   Why is this posted on UER? Panic, you have your own site, go ask this question there. Dages  This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Location: Midwestern US Gender: Male  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 25 on 3/9/2007 8:51 AM >   The only people I would pay to explore with are Lord Rick and Av-X ^_____________________________________^ Emor  Location: Crackpipe city. Gender: Male  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 26 on 3/9/2007 8:23 PM >   Posted by hotsauce that traveling companions part is hilarious, no one is coming back alive from this trip! Dude, abide by the cooking and cleaning roster and everything will be just fine KONG  Sus scrofa domestica Location: Kingston, Ontario Gender: Male  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 27 on 3/9/2007 10:32 PM >   Posted by Avatar-X I think you should be able to ask donations for any cause you want. ... I feel that in order for donations to be successful, you have to have an exchange in value. Exactly, and what value is there in funding a stranger's vacation? It's a great scam if you can pull it off. Good luck Panic! [last edit 3/10/2007 1:12 AM by KONG - edited 1 times] El_Gordo_Uno  Location: Wenatchee, Washington Gender: Male This post brought to you by Allan Smithee  |  |  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 28 on 3/11/2007 2:01 AM >   This is almost as funny as when he faked his own suicide. Except instead of pity and attention, he wants money. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges KONG  Sus scrofa domestica Location: Kingston, Ontario Gender: Male  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 29 on 3/11/2007 2:26 AM >   I want money. Will someone PLEASE donate to me? I need money for hookers and blow, mmkay. I accept paypal. [last edit 3/11/2007 2:26 AM by KONG - edited 1 times] KONG  Sus scrofa domestica Location: Kingston, Ontario Gender: Male  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 30 on 3/11/2007 2:28 AM >   Posted by Dages The only people I would pay to explore with are Lord Rick and Av-X ^_____________________________________^ Yeah. If you've explored with Av once, you'd realize that it may be a better idea to pay him to stay home. fedge  Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male you blight up my life™®  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 31 on 3/11/2007 9:00 AM >   Up until this thread I had never heard of or visited urbanadventure.org. Asking for donations is OK (preferably on your own site though, otherwise buy some ad space from Av). Part of the reason (or the reason) that people donate to UER is that it's veering towards something that a company might buy (ie: Google UE or Yahoo! UE). When you get a site that universal, you don't have to ask for donations. I run a pile of sites but since I started them up on my own accord, I can't really whine that my users should pay me for my efforts (though if they do donate, that's a super bonus). 18-odd Years Of UER-ing! kowalski   |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 32 on 3/11/2007 10:55 AM >   Part of the reason (or the reason) that people donate to UER is that it's veering towards something that a company might buy (ie: Google UE or Yahoo! UE). How does this make any sense? fedge  Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male you blight up my life™®  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 33 on 3/11/2007 8:42 PM >   Posted by kowalski How does this make any sense? I meant that UER has become so universal and ubiquitous, Google could buy it and turn it into Google UE and charge if they wanted to. In other words, Av gets donations without having to ask for them. 18-odd Years Of UER-ing! blackhawk  This member has been banned. See the banlist for more information. Location: Mission Control UER newbie  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 34 on 3/11/2007 9:14 PM >   I don't have anything against Panic, or his site. My comparing him to lord dick wasn't fair or kind of me to do. It was a joking jab, but too much so. I just found it strange that he would ask such a question, but after sending Panic a PM, his reasoning makes more sens to me now. Most people and small organizations who want do real in-depth exploration and documentaries need lots of cash to do so. Most get this from personal funds or outside sources. Some market their produces to the media for funding, or even business. If you could make your living doing this, that would be great. You must enjoy your work to be happy; people should try to do what they are best at, and not worry about the money. In time, it will come (except for lord dick). You could try your hand as an independent producer. Either selling the finish product or submitting a plan to do it to investors. Choose a project that the media or select groups/individuals have interest in. Develop a business plan for that project and submit it to them in order to get funding. Easier said then done, but having a sense a business savvy is a real skill worth developing. It's not who you are, it's who you know Peace. May you find your dreams, and a way. Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in. kowalski   |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 35 on 3/11/2007 9:16 PM >   Posted by fedge I meant that UER has become so universal and ubiquitous, Google could buy it and turn it into Google UE and charge if they wanted to. In other words, Av gets donations without having to ask for them. Ah, okay, so people are dumb. Got it. Maybe Panic's plan has merit then. fedge  Location: Gaud Corners, Ontario, Canada Gender: Male you blight up my life™®  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 36 on 3/12/2007 3:28 AM >   Posted by kowalski Ah, okay, so people are dumb. Got it. Maybe Panic's plan has merit then. Wait, so you've essentially changed your opinion to the opposite extreme? 18-odd Years Of UER-ing! kowalski   |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 37 on 3/12/2007 3:57 AM >   When I said "Maybe Panic's plan has merit then," I meant it might work, not that it would be a good thing. And, you know, I was being facetious. Avatar-X  Alpha Husky Location: West Coast Gender: Male yay!  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 38 on 3/12/2007 4:49 AM >   Er, no, I don't get donations unless I ask for them. Oh, and I've already had one offer from someone who wanted to buy UER. We didn't actually exchange a dollar figure -- I told him I wasn't interested. -av huskies - such fluff. Doug  Gender: Male  |  |  Re: Asking for donations for UE related web site <Reply # 39 on 3/12/2007 5:15 AM >   I would be prepared to pay $5 to make someone go away The Urbex Zine Guy https://www.cavecl...wtopic.php?t=12259 UER Forum > Archived UE Main > Asking for donations for UE related web site (Viewed 1796 times)  1 2 3   All content and images copyright © 2002-2024 UER.CA and respective creators. Graphical Design by Crossfire. To contact webmaster, or click to email with problems or other questions about this site: UER CONTACT View Terms of Service | View Privacy Policy | Server colocation provided by Beanfield This page was generated for you in 189 milliseconds. Since June 23, 2002, a total of 741782949 pages have been generated.