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 Debi
    
Location: Worcester County, MA
Gender: Female
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< on 12/15/2006 3:33 PM >
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Was wondering if any of you ever go through contacting the owner of a building and getting permission to go through. I realizes it kills a lot of the intrigue (for me it would anyway). But I thought I read a post about it a while back.
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yokes
  
Location: Toronto
Gender: Male
I aim to misbehave
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<Reply # 1 on 12/15/2006 4:13 PM >
| | | | Rarely, but if the situation warrants it, I'm fine with it.
"Great architecture has only two natural enemies: water and stupid men." - Richard Nickel |
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DevilC
Location: Washington, District of Corruption
Gender: Male
I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their views.
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<Reply # 2 on 12/15/2006 4:16 PM >
| | | | In the long run, I am convinced that it is the best way.
There are plenty of places trespassers will never see.
It's always good to utilize ALL options at your disposal.
Science flies you to the Moon. Religion flies you into tall buildings. |
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
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<Reply # 3 on 12/15/2006 4:25 PM >
| | | | The construction supervisor if there's one, can be an A-1 ticket to the stars. I've been given free reign at in-fucking-credible sites like this. Much nicer than looking over your shoulder and hiding in the shadows! An honest direct approach works best with people. Don't forget to give that man a bottle of whiskey or a sub, donuts, pics, etc. if they let you run wild .
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Debi
Location: Worcester County, MA
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 4 on 12/15/2006 4:59 PM >
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That's great info, because one thing that was brought to my attention was "hey, your the guardian of a small child, how would DSS look upon it if you got arrested"? Suddenly it felt like the air just got sucked out of the room, because that would cut my explore options dramatically.
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Pariah
 
Location: MD
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 5 on 12/15/2006 5:10 PM >
| | | | Debi, that's my situation too. I am much more concerned about getting caught now that we have a child. I have no problem asking for permission. I do think it is more fun to get in myself, but if the only way of getting in is by asking, I'd rather do that then completely miss out.
blackhawk, what do you say to the supervisor? So far I've gotten permission to one place, but that was because of a friend who knows the supervisor. If I didn't have that, I'm not sure how I would have gone about it.
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AeroFennec
Location: NY
Gender: Male
| | | | Re: permission to explore
<Reply # 6 on 12/15/2006 5:14 PM >
| | | | I've tried several times, so far I've never had any luck though.
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Debi
Location: Worcester County, MA
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 7 on 12/15/2006 5:40 PM >
| | | | Pariah; my husband is actually the foreman of a large construction company and I just picked his brain about that. He said if someone were to say to him, "hey, could I take some picture of this place before you demolish/refurb it" that he would have no problem with it PROVIDING there was little to no risk of injury in the building. Yes, your missing out on the rush of getting in yourself and not belonging there; but with kids involved I'd rather be there under those terms than in jail. You just never know what kind of mood the cops are going to be in.
Also, a good way to find out who owns a building is to search the registry of deeds websites for that area. Most of them have can give you the owner of record just by punching in the address.
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blackhawk
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Location: Mission Control
UER newbie
| | | Re: permission to explore
<Reply # 8 on 12/16/2006 1:31 AM >
| | | | Posted by Pariah
Debi, that's my situation too. I am much more concerned about getting caught now that we have a child. I have no problem asking for permission. I do think it is more fun to get in myself, but if the only way of getting in is by asking, I'd rather do that then completely miss out.
blackhawk, what do you say to the supervisor? So far I've gotten permission to one place, but that was because of a friend who knows the supervisor. If I didn't have that, I'm not sure how I would have gone about it.
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I simply smile and ask while looking a bit star struck by the place. It helps to know the history sometimes. Blue jeans, nothing too fancy, a hardhat and safety glasses may help too. I tend to be honest sometimes to the point of being blunt. That's my style and it works for me. People don't like being lied to; keep it simple stupid.
A simple interest in the structure and the fact that photography is your hobby is all there needs to be as to why you are there. This works well with cops too. Don't put a cop in a position were he HAS to arrest you; never B&E, vandalize, or steal anything. Never carry tools or weapons. Never run from a cop if he spots you. Never take pics of cops at sites (they may be looking at them later if your tagged!). Never go to active R&D facilities, or ones that have residents/patients; most states have strict laws to protect both from terrorists and predators. The living are trouble; best to avoid active sites. If you do run into a cop(s), stay calm, let the cop do the talking and take control, don't be evasive, lie by omission only if necessary. Most cops are ok if you don't get goofy with them.
Always carry at least 1 quart of water and warm clothes in case you need to lay low waiting for dark or longer....shit happens! If cops don't know your there, sometimes it's best to keep it that way.
[last edit 12/16/2006 2:51 AM by blackhawk - edited 1 times]
Just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back in.
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Brind
Location: Kitchener, ON
Gender: Male
| | | Re: permission to explore
<Reply # 9 on 12/16/2006 2:14 AM >
| | | | A lot of people seem to think it's not UE if you get permission, but I definitely don't agree. You're still exploring an abandoned location that very few ever see. The only difference is now you're not looking over your shoulder all the time waiting for security to pop out. I've never explored anything with permission, but I definitely would if I had the opportunity.
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startedsmoking
Location: Edinburgh, UK
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 10 on 12/16/2006 9:52 AM >
| | | | The great thing about UE is that there are no 'rules' as such, just the notion that one shouldn't do anything destructive. So if you feel that it would be better to get permission to explore a location than to just wonder in then go for it. After all if they say no, than you can just treaspass as you might have done anyway.
"take nothing but pictures, leaving nothing but footprints...unless it would be really fun" |
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graben
Location: Montreal
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 11 on 12/16/2006 4:21 PM >
| | | | Many times it is hard to find the owner anyway. I don't know any website for this...in montreal canada, you have to call to the municipality to get this info...or to lookup the government company registry and find the last owner (last company) who was using the building.
Personnally I don't have anything against this practice (going in with permission) but I didn't do it yet. I've been exploring since 5 years and never caught... I suspect however that it is less risky to explore abandonned places in canada than is USA since cops have less rights than in USA.
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DrranXCore
Location: Winnipeg
Gender: Male
Pigeons are fuckin' scary man
| | | Re: permission to explore
<Reply # 12 on 12/19/2006 5:10 AM >
| | | | Posted by Debi
Was wondering if any of you ever go through contacting the owner of a building and getting permission to go through. I realizes it kills a lot of the intrigue (for me it would anyway). But I thought I read a post about it a while back.
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just once, i went to the owner of the Fort Garry hotel here in winnipeg to ask to explore the fabled fort garry tunnel (which turned out to be just a myth) so i've never actually explored with permission but i've asked for permission to explore
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Debi
Location: Worcester County, MA
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 13 on 12/19/2006 5:49 PM >
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I just found an amazing paper mill, which used to be a gun and bicycle manufacturing plant back in the 1800's. (What a combo huh, guns and bikes.)After a little research it is my understanding is that the gun that killed JFK was manufactured at that plant. The owner says that they have been finding guns in that place up until the last few years; and that he doesn't even know whats in the rest of the buildings; he only occupies one out of the three. I went on ebay, bought a couple collectible advertisements from when the mill was in operation and we are going to make a trade. Open access and free reign. I'll keep you guys posted.
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nobody
Location: VANCOUVER B.C.
Gender: Male
5:55 is a state of mind
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<Reply # 14 on 12/19/2006 6:12 PM >
| | | | Yes, I do this, it doesn't take away really, to me it adds a little challenge.N.
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Happiedaze
Location: Galveston Area, TX
Gender: Female
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<Reply # 15 on 12/23/2006 6:01 AM >
| | | | I have no problem asking for permission. I haven't yet, but only because I've only gone to places where that would be difficult.
If you're really into the photography of UE, then I think asking permission would be a good thing. Only because you could take your time, not jump and every sound, and get some darn good pictures!
'Our plans are all laid out,
take all these unmarked roads,
we blaze the trails to places no one goes, yeah!' -Rise Against |
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CaptOrbit
Location: Sarasota, FL or Cincinnati, OH
Gender: Male
There you are, right back in the jungle again.
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<Reply # 16 on 12/23/2006 8:07 AM >
| | | | A lot of people on this site have kids, I do, but either way I'm not really that keen on being arrested. I've seen some pretty awesome stuff that there is NO WAY I could have ever seen if I had tried to go in without permission. This includes my trip to St. Bonaventure and to the roof (when it is closed at night) and a few other cool off limits areas of the tallest building in the city.
The personal responsibility train left the station years ago, and you gave it the finger as you watched it leave. |
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Explorer Zero
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<Reply # 17 on 12/23/2006 2:56 PM >
| | | | Posted by Debi
After a little research it is my understanding is that the gun that killed JFK was manufactured at that plant. |
Wow that is some great research Debi, I had no idea the Fabrica Armas Torino factory had been moved from Italy to the USA!
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CaptOrbit
Location: Sarasota, FL or Cincinnati, OH
Gender: Male
There you are, right back in the jungle again.
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<Reply # 18 on 12/23/2006 7:38 PM >
| | | | Well some people belive JFK was killed by a Mauser. Oh, wait, that would still be a German gun. Oh well, this officially ends my part in this thread hijack.
The personal responsibility train left the station years ago, and you gave it the finger as you watched it leave. |
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shelka04
Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico
Gender: Male
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<Reply # 19 on 12/24/2006 2:38 AM >
| | | | I contacted an owner, errr more like the facilities Legal Council a few weeks back asking to come to their hospital and photograph.
Yesterday was the day:
We were given ALL access to any areas,
They opened the museum up just for us and let us handle stuff
They took us on a tour of the 1500+ acre facility / campus
We took photos inside and out,
So in short
Can't hurt to ask first and then react accordingly.
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