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 big dave
       
Location: SoCal
Gender: Male
 |  |  | why do some people receive full membership before others?
< on 2/20/2006 1:56 AM >
|  | | | I understand ive only been here for 15 days. This is not about my membership. I see lots of people who are waiting for full membership, some who post about it and have been waiting for months. Someone wanna explain WTF this is?
http://www.uer.ca/...asp?posterid=14640
A whole whopping 6 posts, joined 5 days before me and already has full status. Compare the quality and content of my posts with that user. If there is a member who hasnt been here longer than a month that should get full status, I sure deserve it over said user. But its not about my membership. Ive only been here 15 days, enjoy the site so much ive donated, and already been out on a run with full members. I seen plenty of other users who have done/given more than i have. Blasphemy.
http://www.uer.ca/...d=1&posterid=13954
And this one. A whole whopping 14 posts of what? Theres nothing valuable coming from that side of the keyboard. I think this member just got in because someone they know with access. Same with the user above.
Ive read about and come to understand the system in use here. If its so perfect, how do things like this happen? Is full member status even worth it? Whats on the other side? The main thing im looking foward to, is adding my location info to the DB.
Humor me. My flame suit is on for those keyboard warriors.
[last edit 2/20/2006 2:10 AM by Avatar-X - edited 1 times]
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el nerdo
    
Chief UER Lackey
Gender: Male
What are you, from the Department of Know'm Sayin's? You takin' a Know'm census?
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<Reply # 1 on 2/20/2006 1:59 AM >
| | | | I think this member just got in because someone they know with access. Same with the user above.
You answered your own question.
I've recommended people for full access on their first day because I knew them personally.
For those people, they're lucky. For people who don't know a full member personally, they just have to do their time in the trenches.
It sucks, sure, but it's the way it goes.
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-MisfitStyle-
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<Reply # 2 on 2/20/2006 1:59 AM >
| | | | While I think you have a stronger example in the second user than the first, I won't flame you. You raise some very good points about the fairness of the membership system.
"I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window."
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big dave
Location: SoCal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: someone wanna humor me?
<Reply # 3 on 2/20/2006 1:59 AM >
| | | | Posted by el nerdo
I think this member just got in because someone they know with access. Same with the user above.
You answered your own question.
I've recommended people for full access on their first day because I knew them personally.
For those people, they're lucky. For people who don't know a full member personally, they just have to do their time in the trenches.
It sucks, sure, but it's the way it goes.
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Thats the answer i was looking for. I understand fully. Thanks for clearing that up. If it works, why change it.
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
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<Reply # 4 on 2/20/2006 2:00 AM >
| | | | Posted by -MisfitStyle-
While I think you have a stronger example in the second user than the first, I won't flame you. You raise some very good points about the fairness of the membership system.
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Same here.
Mechfreak57 in the UER chat : "George W. Bush is not perfect. He fucked up the borders and Irak is a shit storm but he's the best we've got. "
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Avatar-X
Alpha Husky
Location: West Coast
Gender: Male
yay!
| | | Re: someone wanna humor me?
<Reply # 5 on 2/20/2006 2:09 AM >
| | | | The Full Member system is very fair, much more so than most websites.
There is a lot more going on behind the scenes that you don't know about. Mods look at a lot more than just number of posts and join date. The biggest factor is recommendations.
If a person who is very well known and an established UER member says "This person is my best friend, I trust him with my life", it's pretty much a guarantee that they will get full member access right away, even without a single post.
Compare our system to the systems used on more closed websites. For example, on another popular UE website Deggi5, the only way to gain access is to know a member. If you don't, you're SOL. This is a fine system, it works well.
On UER, we wanted to open the doors a little further. Anyone may apply for full membership, and if they don't know anyone else who can recommend them, we will judge them by their posts and their contributions. This system works very well, it's only downside is that it takes a long time.
So, before you complain about person X receiving full membership before you do, realize that there is a lot more going on "behind the scenes".
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-MisfitStyle-
| | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 6 on 2/20/2006 2:12 AM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-X
The Full Member system is very fair, much more so than most websites.
There is a lot more going on behind the scenes that you don't know about. Mods look at a lot more than just number of posts and join date. The biggest factor is recommendations.
If a person who is very well known and an established UER member says "This person is my best friend, I trust him with my life", it's pretty much a guarantee that they will get full member access right away, even without a single post.
Compare our system to the systems used on more closed websites. For example, on another popular UE website Deggi5, the only way to gain access is to know a member. If you don't, you're SOL. This is a fine system, it works well.
On UER, we wanted to open the doors a little further. Anyone may apply for full membership, and if they don't know anyone else who can recommend them, we will judge them by their posts and their contributions. This system works very well, it's only downside is that it takes a long time.
So, before you complain about person X receiving full membership before you do, realize that there is a lot more going on "behind the scenes".
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Excellent explanation. I think it was good that he asked, though. Good chance to clear it up for anybody else who might be wondering.
"I feel like I just got in a battle of wits with some kid in a helmet I found licking a window."
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big dave
Location: SoCal
Gender: Male
| | | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 7 on 2/20/2006 2:13 AM >
| | | | Posted by Avatar-XSo, before you complain about person X receiving full membership before you do, realize that there is a lot more going on "behind the scenes".
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Thats exactly why i posted. I wasnt 100% clear as to what it took to become a full member, when i see some basic members who have contributed more to the forum than some full members. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Ember
Gender: Female
| |  |  | | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 8 on 2/20/2006 3:16 AM >
| | | | Posted by ghostkilla
I understand ive only been here for 15 days. This is not about my membership. I see lots of people who are waiting for full membership, some who post about it and have been waiting for months. Someone wanna explain WTF this is?
http://www.uer.ca/...asp?posterid=14640
A whole whopping 6 posts, joined 5 days before me and already has full status. Compare the quality and content of my posts with that user. If there is a member who hasnt been here longer than a month that should get full status, I sure deserve it over said user. But its not about my membership. Ive only been here 15 days, enjoy the site so much ive donated, and already been out on a run with full members. I seen plenty of other users who have done/given more than i have. Blasphemy.
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I'll admit, I'm one of the "lucky ones". I didn't apply for full membership. I was recommended by a long standing and respected member of this forum the second day I signed up. I'm glad you think my posts are crap, however. ;)
In any case, I hope you get that full membership you're so hoping for. Good luck.
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grit1
Location: University Campus - Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Got Shear Line?
| | | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 9 on 2/20/2006 4:55 AM >
| | | | It's much easier and faster to get full membership if you sit back, relax and enjoy the ride for a while instead of bitching and complaining about someone else's system that is indeed fair and well established.
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| | | | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 10 on 2/20/2006 4:55 AM >
| | | | Posted by grit1
It's much easier and faster to get full membership if you sit back, relax and enjoy the ride for a while instead of bitching and complaining about someone else's system that is indeed fair and well established.
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LOL true true
Mechfreak57 in the UER chat : "George W. Bush is not perfect. He fucked up the borders and Irak is a shit storm but he's the best we've got. "
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Mark
Very Noble Donor
Location: South Carolina
Gender: Male
What is a lion, king of the savannah, when hes at the south pole?
| | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 11 on 2/20/2006 5:48 AM >
| | | | Posted by grit1
It's much easier and faster to get full membership if you sit back, relax and enjoy the ride for a while instead of bitching and complaining about someone else's system that is indeed fair and well established.
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Fair is in the eyes of the beholder. The system screens out a lot of people who shouldnt be here, but it also can easily bypassed, by "Hey I know this guy and hes cool." Got a person I know who does security for a living, and he use to rob from the houses he now protects.
Every system has its flaw just like deggi5.
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grit1
Location: University Campus - Minneapolis, MN
Gender: Male
Got Shear Line?
| | | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 12 on 2/20/2006 5:51 AM >
| | | | Posted by Mark
Fair is in the eyes of the beholder. The system screens out a lot of people who shouldnt be here, but it also can easily bypassed, by "Hey I know this guy and hes cool." Got a person I know who does security for a living, and he use to rob from the houses he now protects.
Every system has its flaw just like deggi5.
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Very true...I think that Av has a good point that this system allows for obtaining full member status either way -
-knowing someone or
-making a name for yourself, by yourself...
The latter takes more work, but not by much - just play the game, contribute and it'll come.
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Intrinsic
Location: Collingwood
Gender: Male
| | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 13 on 2/20/2006 6:42 AM >
| | | | FWIW, I voted to grant you membership based on your contributions.
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Azrael
Location: South West UK
Gender: Male
| | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 14 on 2/20/2006 4:37 PM >
| | | | Whats that old saying, it's not what you know that counts, it's who you know? I'm happy to wait it out, i'm not even going to apply until like six months, i like this site and am happy to jump through hoops for access.
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Zig Zag 42
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<Reply # 15 on 2/20/2006 9:26 PM >
| | | | I have been recommended a few times and been denied a couple times. I have met the owner of the site and still have not received my status.
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nobody
Location: VANCOUVER B.C.
Gender: Male
5:55 is a state of mind
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<Reply # 16 on 2/20/2006 9:42 PM >
| | | | I consider myself lucky. After only a couple of months I had a meeting with a full member in my area( Jester ). Doubly lucky, he was a mod, so that afternoon I was a full member. Awesome!. N.
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Jonsered
Location: Back in New Mexico where I belong
Gender: Male
Dressed for a scarecrow ball.........
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<Reply # 17 on 2/20/2006 9:45 PM >
| | | | I paid a straight fee in gold krugerrands. La Mordida lives!
I have changed my personal exploring ethics code. From now on it will be: "Take only aimed shots, leave only hobo corpses." Copper scrappers, meth heads and homeless beware. The Jonsered cometh among you, bringing fear and dread.
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Crossfire
Location: Kay-Dub
Gender: Male
Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.
| |  | | | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 18 on 2/20/2006 10:24 PM >
| | | | Several people knew that I would grant full membership for the paltry fee of 1,500 Kraft Singles delivered to my garage in a plan paper bag. Sadly, those days have ended.
C.
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maZe
Location: Montreal/Moncton/Ottawa
Gender: Female
"All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed" - Sean O'Casey
| | | | Re: why do some people receive full membership before others?
<Reply # 19 on 2/21/2006 2:21 AM >
| | | | Posted by Crossfire
Several people knew that I would grant full membership for the paltry fee of 1,500 Kraft Singles delivered to my garage in a plan paper bag. Sadly, those days have ended.
C.
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I would have sent it to ya just to see your face 
Mechfreak57 in the UER chat : "George W. Bush is not perfect. He fucked up the borders and Irak is a shit storm but he's the best we've got. "
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